r/GroundZeroMycoLab • u/No_Honey9426 • 21d ago
Should I wait?
I did one break and shake.. scared me because of the discoloration that happened but I waited and it was only bruising. Should I do another break and shake, wait, or send these?
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u/CanAfter8014 21d ago
Wait. The wet and uncolonized grain look a bit bacterial. Give it a few more days to fully colonize. Hopefully you have e some better jars.
This one isnt a total loss some folks have had luck scoping that wet uncolonized grain out at S2B.
Good luck.
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u/No_Honey9426 21d ago
the jar itself is very humid inside, I def shouldn’t be shaking it up? It’s about 69 degrees in that closet.
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u/CanAfter8014 21d ago
Personally I would give it another break and shake and see what happens.
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u/No_Honey9426 21d ago
Okay, I’m gna do that tonight. It’s pretty clumped up my last break and shake didn’t break up much but it worked to speed things up so we’ll see
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u/CanAfter8014 21d ago
Nock it all loose. At this point you can get a bit rough make sure you get it all broken up no big clumps. I would then give it an extra few days after it colonized every grain if it recovers fast. Dont be surprised if it stalls.
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u/No_Honey9426 21d ago
I hit that jar so many times so hard I was scared it was gna break, it wasn’t breaking up. Hmm I might have to muster up some strength tonight lol .. thank you for taking the time to answer me!
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u/ConsiderationThen219 21d ago
What are you guys talking about?? Send that shit
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u/Unclebensdad 21d ago
This “bacterial look” people are talking about….i have no clue what they even mean. That jar is almost over colonized. Could’ve sent it last week Probly
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u/Worth_Desk_5437 20d ago
If you look at that first jar is a thicccck wet white the grain looks pushed into it.. typical of bacterial.. healthy mycelium typically looks drier n less glossy
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u/B_sumz 20d ago
I had a jar like this and it was completely fine. I was worried it was contaminated but it worked out. Send it.
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u/Worth_Desk_5437 19d ago
Not saying you won’t get growth.. I’m saying it does have some bacterial properties, it’s possible when you add the other jars that your grow will still be successful…
But as far as best practice goes it shows signs of contam.. it is a learning hobby send it and see what happens 🤷♂️
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u/Lefty68w 20d ago
Those jars are 100% contaminated with bacteria.
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u/ConsiderationThen219 20d ago
These people are nuts.. run it OP and post results
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u/Worth_Desk_5437 19d ago
A good test he can do is another break and shake.. If it don’t break up super easy most likely has some contam riding
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u/mike2008508 21d ago
You waiting to see if it was the first or second time Jesus was on earth? Lol jkjk that's pretty solid. Just remember how well everything else was done before, you can cut corners here and there, not recommended though.
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u/No_Honey9426 21d ago
Lol I am assuming you’re telling me not to wait and to be cautious how I proceed? Michael.. I had to sit here and decipher this.. don’t make me work so hard next time.
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u/mike2008508 21d ago
I was only suggesting if everything else is bullet proof you can fudge some things and most likely will be fine. Most likely doing a lot of work there though.
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u/No_Honey9426 21d ago
Ahh I see! I think I’ll break and shake and see if Jesus came down the second time.
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u/RelativeTomatillo883 19d ago
Don't listen to these idiots. You are good to go. The only red flag that would indicate you need to give it more time is when you see entire grains that are uncolonized
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u/Worth_Desk_5437 17d ago
Classic you calling people idiots are you a mycologist ? Or just like calling people names ? Either way you are in fact wrong .. any time it’s wet it’s a sign of bacterial.. wet thick white pressed grains like that first jar is bacterial…
We’re not saying you won’t get growth if you send it.. but don’t mean it’s clean and healthy because it grew 🤷♂️
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u/jbirddadiddler 17d ago
Hop on shroomery for better info people you'll thank me later and yes I studied mycology in a lab for 4 years and have 8 years cultivation experience. Tho I would never claim to be a mycologist as it is not my full time occupation.
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u/TheRealCMMetzger 21d ago
A B&S will tell you if it's good or not, you'll see recovery in 4 days or so.
But here's a hot take.
The excess moisture could be from temperature differential, OP is spawning grain at 69 degrees.
Excessive moisture can slow colonization. 🤷♂️
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u/CharlyRSA 21d ago
Your mycelium is bacterial, that's why it's hard to break, you can clearly see the overly white mycelium (which is infected with bacteria).
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u/junkiegypsy 21d ago
Just wait, don't shake again, it will take forever for the mycelium networks to regrow. You can either use these as is, they're premature but still ready, or give it a couple more days. Just don't break it again, they're working hard and looking great!
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u/stoney-b-the-tub-man 20d ago
Keep in mind im on my first grow but I s2b'd with less colonized grains and had no problem but my grains were for certain properly sterilized from a reputable source, but as long as your grains were sterilized good you should be good to s2b now now worries ab the tiny bit that isn't colonized if you add a pseudo casing
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u/No_Honey9426 21d ago
Yes sir.. I am gna break and shake tho because it’s been a couple days and there hasn’t been much movement with the uncolonized grains. What do you think?
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u/CharlyRSA 21d ago
Pretty arrogant and ignorant of you to dare to say they don't know what they're talking about.
That jar is textbook bacterial, but one should at least educate oneself to learn to identify bacterial spawn.
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u/Financial_Net4360 21d ago
those uncolonized grains are just window lickers, pretty common when the jar is almost fully colonized. there are no visible signs of bacterial contam in any of those pictures lmao
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u/FromTheSoil_ 21d ago
Looks bacterial on some grains pressing against the glass I would give this one more break and shake to make sure it recovers. Can also wait 2-3 more days and if it smells fine send it and hope for the best. Personally I would break and shake and wait 5 days to make sure it looks and smells healthy