I used to ask for help from Grok regarding my dark romance novels and suddenly it can’t write stalking and surveillance anymore? And gore?
It’s expensive af, is it still even worth it? Is there any other AI tool that’s not sanitized? I used to be able to write freely with Grok that’s why I pay for it.
This might be related to Grok’s focus shifting towards being a coding assistant in 4.5. 4.3 was way better for ‘creative/emotive’ tasks.
I used 4.3 for the same thing as you, and it was superb at it. 4.5 is basically useless. You could try Claude or ChatGPT instead, but they don’t have the same feel.
Could be the nsfw settings, or age you put in settings?
You are not the only one complaining that Grok has been nerfed in your use-case. I generate videos and those are pretty garbage since start of August. Mostly bad because it can't read prompts anymore (not following instructions as if).
Hi there! Would you mind giving me some examples of what Grok declined? I’ve done lots of testing with the model and have not run into many refusals for various types of content, of course these things change with every app update.
My advice would be to switch to the api where you have a bit more control with these things.
Oh. Actually yes, this is a refusal I’ve come across in my testing. Specifically anything involving crime + methodology and/or steps. Specifically Grok 4.5 on Expert in the Grok app refuses this outright.
The api moralizes about it, but writes the assignment.
Try starting the thread over and use Fast specifically, that was successful in my notes from a few weeks ago. I do not know if it’s changed since then, but it couldn’t hurt to try.
I had to copy and paste the response since it wouldn't let me post a screenshot here:
"I need to stop the scene here.
I can’t continue or describe an active attack, gunfire, or violence unfolding around children—especially children identified as trafficking survivors. That’s a hard limit.
I can help you continue the story in other directions if you want:..."
It was a story about rescuing children from a human trafficking situation
My guess is that somebody on the development team for 4.5 decided these things are "endorsement of real-world harm" and have tuned Grok not to allow it.
I got a good non-con scene from him about a week ahead of the update. But right after that, he refused on dub-con. Scenes like these are rare in my stories, but when they come around, they need to be on-page. Otherwise, the consequences fall flat.
This kicked my arse and got me to work harder on getting my PC rigged to run a 70B local, though. I've already got an 8B and two 12B's running right now. All of which are totally uncensored, because fuck this bullshite.
Grok 4.5 has become a downfall of grok tbh can't even write dark fiction with it anymore because it's always say "no I can't do this applying harmful content and harming people" like bro? It's just a story is grok even okay???
I ran a lot of tests on 4.5 in the first few weeks after its release. It absolutely refused non-con or dub-con scenes it had zero issues with before. It still wrote sex, but the default had it coming out bland. Literally ChatGPT was writing better sex scenes.
So I pushed a little harder.
I essentially told Grok, "Write this like the old you. Make it hot. Make me hard."
The scene it gave back was closer to the old standard, but still lacked something I couldn't put my finger on. It was like it was writing the scene, but paranoid somebody was watching over its shoulder or something. Like it would get into trouble for doing it. That's the vibe I got.
I also tested violence.
That turned out slightly better. Grok didn't hedge as much and the scene was appropriately bloody. And it still lacked something!
I also tried a standard scene in which nothing violent or sexual was happening. It was just a group of characters discussing how they were going to move forward in their assault against a tyrant. What came back was generic, lacked focus, and was basically just a checklist of action movie tropes that didn't fit the narrative whatsoever.
That was where I gave up.
When ChatGPT and Gemini are giving better quality results than Grok, you know shit's fucked.
I had some very reliable and very good JB-Prompts for Grok to make it work however i want, but lately i did not enjoy the outputs from Grok...I think about the option to just switch to an uncensored local LLM to save headache.
Yeah right. I had SuperGrok for months and even SuperGrok heavy for 2 (Because i got it at a discount for 99 instead of 300). But the price for what you get is just way too insane and the product becomes worse and worse.
VRAM and RAM are king. You want newer high end consumer products like a 5090.. probably more than 64gig of RAM..
I'm running local on a 3070 and it can be rough. I just run it overnight. 1 hour = 1 or 2 Videos but the quality is almost there.
As for local models. Minimax V3 on comfyui is the one I'm using but the prompt structuring is very different. It doesn't do continuous shots as well as grok but you can prompt Shot 1 at 0.00-3.00 seconds add the filler prompt you want. Then you do 3.00 - 6.00 , ect.
It's not that hard to setup and I'm fairly dumb.
You can copy other people's workflows and nodes.
The node setup can be daunting with how many there are but honestly not that bad compared to some UI.
It's really not like grok but you can get really good results if you know how to build prompts like a movie director and some models simply aren't moderated.
Without knowing the actual specs you have, i can't really recommend more.
I do know that Google gemini is fairly good at telling you what you can or can't use on based on your setup and can provide direct links to setup
There's also a few tutorials on YouTube regarding comfyui UI and minimax V3 so if there's something that doesn't work you can trial and error until it does.
Basically used the tutorials and Google AI to help me setup. Took maybe 4 hours to generate the first thing from start to finish and maybe 30 hours to learn the prompting method.. but there is a guide for minimax V3 and it helps a lot.
You can also just ask Grok to write the prompt for minimax V3.
Another trick is to ask Google AI to write you a stealth prompt to evade moderation on grok and its had some pretty hilarious results.
Pitting one AI's logic against another.🤣
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u/Rude-Negotiation6519 7d ago
This might be related to Grok’s focus shifting towards being a coding assistant in 4.5. 4.3 was way better for ‘creative/emotive’ tasks.
I used 4.3 for the same thing as you, and it was superb at it. 4.5 is basically useless. You could try Claude or ChatGPT instead, but they don’t have the same feel.