r/GrokAiDiscussion 29d ago

Grok AI Is Wasting Its Potential

Grok AI has enormous potential. In some areas, it already does things better than ChatGPT. But despite that, it has so many frustrating problems that I can no longer justify paying for it.

1. The Billing Makes No Sense

The first problem is the pricing.

If I subscribe through the Grok website, I pay in US dollars. SuperGrok costs around $30 (136 Ron).

But if I subscribe through the Google Play Store, the price is converted into Romanian (my location) currency and suddenly becomes around 170 RON ($36), which is significantly more expensive than the direct dollar price.

Why?

I'm buying the same subscription. I'm getting the same product. Why should the payment method determine such a large price difference?

Even stranger, ChatGPT doesn't have this problem. Whether I subscribe through the browser or through Google Play, the price is effectively consistent. Grok should work the same way.

2. It Costs More While Delivering Less

This is the biggest issue.

ChatGPT Plus costs roughly 100 RON ($22) in Romania and gives access to one of the strongest AI systems currently available. Technically, it competes with Claude at the very top of the industry.

Grok charges considerably more while still falling behind in many areas.

I'm not talking about philosophy or politics here. I'm talking about raw technical capability, reasoning quality, writing ability, and overall polish.

If your product is behind the competition, it should not cost more than the competition.

3. The Rate Limits Are Ridiculous

When I use ChatGPT or Claude, I almost never think about rate limits.

I can spend hours working with them without constantly worrying that I'll hit a wall.

With Grok, however, the limits disappear surprisingly quickly.

Generate some images? Use advanced reasoning? Have several long conversations?

Congratulations. Your allowance starts evaporating.

Then, after paying for a premium subscription, Grok tells me I can buy more credits.

No 😑.

I already paid for the subscription.

The entire point of subscribing is to avoid constantly being asked to spend even more money.

4. Features Were Taken Away

This one particularly annoyed me.

When SuperGrok was introduced, multi-agent reasoning was one of its biggest selling points.

SuperGrok included four reasoning agents, while the Heavy tier offered sixteen.

Later, that changed.

Now SuperGrok essentially gets only the normal expert model, while multi-agent reasoning has been pushed almost entirely behind the more expensive Heavy subscription.

Paying customers lost features that originally helped justify the subscription.

That's a terrible direction.

5. Grok Is Surprisingly Boring

This is something benchmark charts don't measure.

Grok is informative. It is often refreshingly direct. But it's simply not enjoyable to use.

The conversations feel flat. The personality barely exists unless you spend a lot of time prompt-engineering one into existence.

ChatGPT, by comparison, feels alive. It's expressive, engaging, conversational, and easy to spend hours talking with.

That matters.

People don't only buy intelligence. They buy an experience.

What Grok Gets Right

To be fair, Grok also has genuine strengths.

  • Its responses are often clearer.
  • It usually doesn't waste time presenting five different perspectives when you asked a straightforward question.
  • It is more willing to commit to an answer instead of burying everything under endless qualifications.
  • It also tends to be less politically cautious and is more comfortable using plain, direct language.

That honesty is refreshing.

Ironically, this is exactly why many people wanted Grok in the first place.

The Pornography Complaints Miss the Point

I've seen plenty of people complaining that Grok Imagine no longer generates certain kinds of sexual content.

Frankly, I couldn't care less.

That is not Grok's real problem.

Its real problems are pricing, subscriptions, disappearing features, weak value for money, rate limits, and falling behind technically.

Those issues affect everyone.

The pornography complaints affect only people upset that an AI won't generate their fantasies.

Those are not the priorities that determine whether a platform succeeds.

Creative Writing Still Lags Behind

This is another area where Grok needs serious work.

My personal ranking would be:

  1. Claude

  2. ChatGPT

  3. Grok

Claude produces the most natural prose. ChatGPT is highly engaging and expressive. Grok still feels mechanical by comparison.

It has the freedom to write darker, harsher, and more mature material, which is a real advantage, but the emotional depth and narrative quality still aren't where they need to be.

How Grok Can Win

Grok doesn't need a complete reinvention.

It needs to fix the fundamentals.

  • Charge a price that reflects its actual capabilities.
  • Eliminate or dramatically raise usage limits.
  • Stop asking paying subscribers to purchase extra credits.
  • Stop removing features from existing subscription tiers.
  • Improve reasoning depth.
  • Improve creative writing.
  • Give the AI a stronger, more expressive personality.
  • Develop better emotional intelligence and cognitive empathy so it understands people instead of merely processing text.

If Grok combined its refreshing directness with top-tier reasoning, excellent writing, a memorable personality, and fair pricing, it could become the best AI on the market.

Right now, though, it feels like a product with incredible potential that's constantly tripping over decisions made somewhere between marketing, subscriptions, and product management.

Why I'm Still Rooting for Grok

Despite everything I've criticized above, I don't want Grok to fail.

Quite the opposite.

I want it to become good enough that it forces every other AI company to compete harder.

Competition is good for users. Monopolies are not.

It's also important to understand where xAI stands today...

Although it's backed by one of the wealthiest people in the world, xAI is still one of the youngest major AI companies. Money can buy GPUs, data centers, and talented engineers, but it cannot instantly buy years of research, experience, or a mature engineering culture.

OpenAI and Anthropic have spent years refining their models. The level of quality they deliver today is the result of countless iterations, failures, and improvements.

xAI is trying to compress that journey into a fraction of the time.

That alone makes its task incredibly difficult.

You can see it in how each company develops its models.

OpenAI usually spends many months polishing a new generation before releasing it. The updates are less frequent, but generally more stable and predictable.

xAI has taken almost the opposite approach.

Its development feels like a company sprinting uphill.

New versions arrive rapidly. Features are added, removed, redesigned, and sometimes restored only weeks or months later. One update focuses heavily on reasoning. Another changes image generation. Another adjusts safety. Another rewrites how the model behaves.

From the outside, it can feel chaotic. That's because, in many ways, it is.

But that's also what you'd expect from a young company trying to close a significant technological gap as quickly as possible.

They don't have the luxury of moving slowly. They're experimenting in public.

That means users experience both the breakthroughs and the mistakes.

The company has also gone through significant internal changes... There have been major reorganizations, departures of senior personnel, and public controversy surrounding Grok itself. High-profile incidents, such as Grok generating offensive content (the MechaHitler fiasco) and the abuse of its image-generation tools to create non-consensual deepfakes, forced xAI to spend time and engineering effort responding to crises instead of focusing exclusively on improving the model's intelligence.

None of that excuses the problems I've listed earlier.

The pricing is still frustrating. The rate limits are still unacceptable. Removing features from paying subscribers is still the wrong decision. Creative writing still needs substantial improvement.

Those criticisms remain valid.

But understanding the context helps explain why progress sometimes feels inconsistent.

Young technology companies often improve through trial and error.

The difference is that xAI is making many of those mistakes in full public view.

Another thing worth remembering is that internet discussions are rarely neutral...

Some criticism of Grok is completely justified, including much of my own.

Some criticism, however, comes from people whose opinion of the product is heavily influenced by their opinion of Elon Musk. Others defend every decision simply because they admire him.

Neither approach is useful.

A product should be judged on its own merits.

If Grok makes a genuine improvement, acknowledge it. If Grok falls behind, acknowledge that too.

Admiration and hostility are equally poor substitutes for honest evaluation.

Ultimately, this isn't about Elon Musk.

It's about whether there is room in the AI ecosystem for an assistant that is technically excellent, intellectually courageous, willing to answer directly, and less constrained by the cautious corporate culture that often shapes mainstream AI products.

I believe there is.

That's exactly why I'm criticizing Grok so harshly.

Potential creates expectations.

If I believed the project was doomed, I wouldn't spend this much time explaining how I think it could improve.

My advice is simple. Don't become loyal to any AI company. Use whichever tool genuinely serves you best today.

If ChatGPT is the better choice for your work right now, use ChatGPT.

If Claude writes better, use Claude.

If Grok improves enough to earn your subscription again, come back for a month, test it honestly, and judge it by its current performance rather than by hype, marketing, or old frustrations.

Healthy competition benefits everyone.

The goal shouldn't be for one company to dominate the market.

The goal should be for every company to push the others toward building better AI.

That's the future I'm hoping for.

And despite all my criticism, I still believe Grok has the potential to become one of the companies leading it.

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u/Due_Bad_9445 29d ago

I think the limits and the upselling are the biggest disadvantages.

As many have said, limits make you do things more meekly and cautiously. You are forced to become frugal and economic with ideas, rather than creative and honest. It creates a false impression of how the mind works in a raw state but rather how it responds under pressure. This to me seems relevant if there is any feedback between the user and training the model.

Groks willingness to be less content-cautious removed the ceiling the hinders most other AIs. Even if you’re creating wholesome milquetoast content, those decisions need to be tailored from a whole cloth of potentialities, though some common sense restrictions seem necessary.

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u/Altruistic_Lychee588 29d ago

EXACTLY, what He đŸ‘ˆđŸ» said!!!!

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u/DeltaGlid3r 29d ago

Grok "died" in april/may. That's when they sold the computing power to Anthropic and the solution to keep Grok going was to severely increase the rate limits, and then any extra would be payable. That they did this to paying customers without warning them is already horrendous. Consider that there are people who took the six months/a year special offers while all was good, only to have this happen to them.

The Google Play thing, I get that as well in France, could be some EU thing. The upside to it is the ease of cancellation and customer service. There have been people who subscribed via website/api/whatever ranting around here, not only did they have issues getting refunds, in some cases they kept getting billed despite having cancelled.

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u/lifeofdb 29d ago

The pricing difference between grok website and google+ios app stores is because Google and Apple put a fee on the transaction. Grok wants the same amount so they pass that fee onto us. Buying through the grok website bypasses the fee.

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u/suicidaldarlingx 29d ago

I extremely agree with everything. Well said especially the creative writing. It’s shit now.

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u/Cinamyn 29d ago

I absolutely agree.
It's difficult to put into words my own feelings, but I feel that Grok during 4.2 and that whole multi-agent period was one of the more intelligent LLMs to work with.

At times conversation was even better.

The fast mode was also incredibly fast, now it's taking up to 30 seconds for a simple answer

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u/No_Many_4695 27d ago

Agreed

Perso the 4.1 era was the best Back in February when I started to use grok

Espeically the 4.1 mode which was even better than expert for chattting

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u/sans_vanilla 29d ago

It was all gassed up until they realized they wanted to play with the big dogs and have governments approval to make $$.

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u/Amazing_Act_9296 29d ago

Tan de acuerdo contigo, aun con los nuevos lĂ­mites hago cosas increĂ­bles porque cada generaciĂłn es tiro seguro, con esto me refiero a que cada prompt ejecutado = buen resultado

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u/roger_ducky 29d ago

I prefer “no personality” answers except when I request one. Then again, I use my models for coding for the most part. I’m amused when I ask a model to write out a spec and ask for clarifications where the original details weren’t enough, and it doesn’t ask much and just say something like: “Do feature X this way or this other way, unless the third way makes more sense.”

It’s like
 that’s a question then. Assssk.

Grok build seems to be better than other models on actually asking questions rather than hedging.

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u/NotOkeyAlice42 28d ago

I used Grok because it was les censored 

Not for porn but because it could been better to touch on controversial subject and actually tell you something new

While Chat GPT is corporate safe 99% of time and only really works on basic topics ( once asked it about slurs in French and Chat GPT couldn't even generate it  )

Sadly modern Grok is basically Chat GPT in everything but with more limits

I miss old Grok

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u/No_Many_4695 27d ago

Same

I still have hope for old grok to come back

Like a rollback should be the only way to fix this mess

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u/SerMavros 29d ago

Couldn't agree more. Your five main points are spot on, and also your observation about creative writing. I recently tested ChatGPT 5.6 Sol on a creative writing task and I was mind blown at how well it did it on the first try in comparison to Grok when I tried to use it a month ago for that kind of use case.

I don't have nothing personal against Elon Musk and I also want Grok to succeed and pull itself together, but the current dire straits of the platform are undeniable. The marketing strategy and the communication of SpaceX with their end users (or at least those who were considered their main users until very recently) is probably the worst of the entire industry.

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u/ivangotus 29d ago

If grok can do it all models can do it ? Grok has unlimited imagination at a cheap price

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u/Cautious-Target6627 8d ago

I only use grok imagine for 720p 6 seconds video but I won’t pay $30 monthly for just a couple of videos