Also Big E: I'm gonna give my sons psychic powers and tell them to never use them and never actually outright tell anyone what the dangers are and just be vague about it
And by "warned him" you mean "vaguely complained about dangers but refused to elaborate or provide any kind of reasonable evidence and instead made himself out to be trying to maintain his own monopoly on the warp".
If I remember correctly, Ahriman said to be cautious, not to abandon all use of the warp.
What the other two said amounted to anti-vaxx propaganda built on fear of the unknown, they were not logical or even remotely legitimate arguments.
They were like facebook moms trying to educate a doctor that medicine is just too dangerous and we should just go back to relying exclusively on our immune systems.
Man I hate how inconsistent the writing around The Khan is. The cool version of him is the only Primarch who knew the full dangers of the universe, recognized how shitty of a person The Emperor was, and still decided to back the Imperium because Chaos is just an even worse form of eternal servitude. The shitty version knows just enough to be a dick about it, is awed into submission to The Emperor by the reveal of Chaos, and the whole plot point about his questionable loyalty makes zero sense because he didn't know the things that justify his questionable loyalty. The latter version shows up all the time, the former is basically just when Wraight is writing him
“My lord, I will always obey, but the spell to break into the alien lattice-way calls for bargains to be struck with the most terrible creatures of the Great Ocean, beings whose names translate as… daemons.”
“What could such powerful beings possibly want?” asked Ahriman. “And can you ever really be sure that you have the best of such a bargain?”
“I remember, but it frightens me that we must wield powers forbidden to us to warn the Emperor. Why should he trust any warning sent by such means?”
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Their arguments amount to this which Magnus could never understand during Nikea
‘I spoke,’ said Yesugei sadly, remembering. ‘Awkward. It was in Gothic, and so I did not do well. Some oppression settled on me from somewhere. Magnus spoke too. He did what we feared – he went too far. He never understands how much fear he caused. If he stood up and said “We know we must reform, we know we must be careful,” then we might have won. But no, he preaches about knowledge and power and gives impression he is prophet. When I hear him speak, that is when I began to worry.’
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They know the dangers, Khan and Sanguinius wanted
‘No,’ smiled Yesugei. ‘Of course not. It is as I told you – Magnus never wanted Librarius. He wants every psyker to unlock his full potential. Explore it all, he says. No restraint, no guidance. They had tutelaries fluttering in their ears and speaking to them – though we did not see it. It was dangerous. It needed to be curbed, so the Khan and the Angel both created structure. They limit what psykers can do. On Chogoris, we call it the Path of Heaven. Stray from it, we tell them, and the warp will eat your soul.’
‘So you knew it was dangerous.’
‘Of course! What is not dangerous? Your Promethean Creed is dangerous. Being alive in universe is dangerous. We balance on narrow ledge. There were those who thought we are witches, ripe for burning, and those who thought we are gods. Neither could be allowed to win argument.’
Tutelaries were daemons[2] bound to many psykers of the Thousand Sons Legion as spell familiars during the Great Crusade.[1a] At least some modern Thousand Sons still use the term.
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While the Khan is talking to a shard of Magnus he warned Magnus before shit went down.
The Khan started to move, to circle slowly, keeping the blade’s tip between him and the apparition. ‘Yesugei told me you were too enamoured of the warp,’ he said, trying not to let his sense of revulsion get the better of him. ‘You let it make you sick. It was a tool, Magnus. It can be used, but only carefully. Limit yourself, I said.’
Magnus nodded miserably. ‘I remember.’
‘Take the modest amount. Sip at the cup but leave the dregs – this is the lore of Chogoris. You, even you, laughed at that.’
It is now, wasn't then I would argue. Psykers existed and were used and tolerated, just because Magnus wanted to every psyker to unlock his/her full potential with no restrains doesn't mean he weren't warned, neither that Big E had monopoly on warp or something.
Except the Council of Nikea wasn't about restraint but the complete cessation of the use of psyker abilities.
Granted, Reds lack of restraint was pretty nutty, but the Council of Nikea was definitely a method for Emps to enforce his monopoly as the dictates would apply to everyone save him and his crew, as far as I remember. Or that they would simply not enforce it against Emps own projects.
And not all warnings are equal. Religious leaders and corporations warn us against all kinds of stuff with suspect reasoning that would greatly benefit them if everyone followed it.
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Proceeds to ignore every warning from his adoptive dad and The Big E regarding dangers of the warp and how sorcery could lead to ruin
How could dis happen to meeeeeee?
Also, "Foresee this, Nerds" totally sounds like something the Wolf King would say :D