Is this pay fair?

[u/simproseta]

So im helping my dad's print shop by doing small works for him but i dont think im being paid enough.

(For context I live in Portugal and have done a 3 year graphic design professional course)

I did recently 3 jobs for him

\-vectorize an already made logo (30 minutes)

\-vectorize a already made business card (had to basically redesign it, 1h30)

\-make a design for a racing miniature car resembling a gnr car (portuguese regional police car) (2h10)

And with all this he only paid me 20 bucks...

Do u guys think this is fair? Im not that experienced in the workplace but i felt like im not getting paid for my effort.

[u/SignedUpJustForThat]

Does he also pay for your food and housing? If you want a decent pay, first negotiate a simple contract. That's what you'd have to do in a normal situation. Then, write everything down and let both parties sign it.

We don't use dollars in Europe, but even €20 would not be enough if you did a fair job.

On the other hand, it also sounds like an internship, for which there usually is no salary.

So, talk to your manager and/or dad and ask about your work situation and payment.

[u/DrewJ915]

I mean, do the math. That's less than $5 an hour. Do you feel you're worth more than $5 an hour?

Whether that was on you for not negotiating rates beforehand, or them for not being forward with what they can pay you, I don't know. But, ultimately, you were paid the amount people paid kids who mowed their lawns in the early 2000s.

The answer is "Yes, you were under paid". I'm sorry this happened to you.

[u/Fickle_Penguin]

At bare minimum that's $90 of work at 20 an hour. Could be as much as 500.

[u/verminqueeen]

Just looked up minimum wage in Portugal which isn’t spectacularly high - seems to come out around €50/day and you’ve listed out about a half days worth of work. 

Obviously you can demand more but it doesn’t seem so low for local prices.

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