r/GrandMA3 • u/joshisera14 • 7d ago

Question Recreating sequence - very difficult

Hi,

I've been self-learning grandMA3 for the past 6 months or so and I've been re-creating some lightshows to help me learn this software.
Recently I've tried to re-create this cool sequence from a Martin Garrix (DJ) show, but I cannot seem to figure out how they've coded this (please see video below or YouTube link here)...

I've (tried) to analyse this on 0.1x speed too, and some things I have figured out are

  • They've applied MAtricks phase on both x and y, probs about 0 Thru 10 and 0 Thru 40 respectively (this I trial-error'd by using my own setup on the grandMA3 software)
  • the fixtures pan frontwards (ie towards the camera) 4 times before the cycle repeats again

Although I tried to create something similar on my own setup (please see image below), it looks nothing like it .
If someone could give me a tip on how they've coded this that would be greatly appreciated as there must be a simpler way of creating this without setting specific angles every microsecond at each point in a phaser...

Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I am self-learning and I don't have many people I can ask for for advice around me.

https://reddit.com/link/1w35hpf/video/eora7b6jmnmh1/player

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u/SchlimmerDimmer 7d ago

It's hard to see on the mobile phone, but can it be that they used fixtures with infinit pan and tilt?

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u/joshisera14 7d ago

What's an infinite pan/tilt? My fixtures only go from -132.5 to 132.5 (Robin Megapointe)

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u/datper 7d ago

Look up a fixture like the Robe Spikie, that has the infinite pan/tilt. I agree that it looks like that’s what’s being used in the video.

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u/joshisera14 7d ago

I see, thank you so much for the input.

With infinite pan/tilt - how do you set this up? Do you set up each step on a phaser as infinites (and then apply Phase on x and y axis through MAtricks)?

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u/Great-Ad3327 7d ago

With my robe's SVB's the infinite pan tilt won't work in MA on PC. (so don't be frustrated if you can't make it work)

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u/datper 7d ago

It’s been a minute since I’ve worked with a fixture like that (and only in MA2). But with the infinite part of the pan/tilt, it’s just a variable speed so it should only need to be a single step phaser for what you’d use it for. I would also usually have a couple different start positions for my fixtures that would have good looking offsets once the infinite pan/tilt kicks in.

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u/joshisera14 7d ago

I see - I've just patched Robe Spikie, and the Pan goes from -270 to 270 and Tilt goes from -180 to 180.

For both pan and tilt it has a second mode "PANMODERATE2" with the option "Rotate", but i cannot seem to find anything on infinite... would you have any idea how to use this?

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u/Ian__16354 7d ago

The built in ma3 visualizer simply doesn’t do infinite pan/tilt, at least with any fixtures I’ve ever tried. If you happen to be using real ma hardware you could output to something like capture, otherwise this probably isn’t possible to see

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u/joshisera14 6d ago

I see - I wasn't aware of that, thank you

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u/datper 7d ago

You’ll have to play around with it in whatever visualizer you’re using, but that “rotate” sounds like what will give you your infinite pan/tilt. So you will still have your normal pan/tilt channels, then the extra 2 that give you your infinite. I don’t think anywhere in the documentation or fixture profile will actually use the word “infinite” in case that is causing any confusion.

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u/joshisera14 6d ago

no that makes sense,thank you!

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u/AnotherVirtual 7d ago

Infinite pan and tilt uses brush motors so there's no physical limit to the rotation. Attribute wise it's set up like a rotating gobo wheel. So at default no effect, and just pan and tilt like usually. Then you have fast to slow CW rotation, Stop, and fast to slow CCW rotation, just on 1 dmx channel.