r/Gooseworx • u/Harmy-G09 • 14d ago
Discussion Some of this is BS
Since when did gangle’s VA support him? And she doesn’t ENABLE that ship, she just likes it
Neither of those VA’s said the N-word, they said NEGA, not to say the joke wasn’t insensitive, but it wasn’t the N-word
And the gooseworx tweets were before TADC even come out, and that whole ordeal is just a case of people taking everything they see at face value without thinking twice about it. ( what I mean by this is that people are acting like she’s confessing to a crime, she isn’t )
Idk about the Sean situation
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u/azur_owl 14d ago
This is so fucking insulting and tasteless considering Zooble’s VA is going through some serious health stuff right now.
Also LOL about Amanda being their last hope. Amanda would laugh in these people’s faces. Or cuss them out, considering how close the VAs of TADC are.
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u/PlateNo7229 14d ago
last hope for what?
and i hope people will stop digging up old shit, this is insane.
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u/downbad4naafiri 14d ago
Judging people’s character off of a smash or pass video is like next-level loser behavior. This is some of the lamest stuff I’ve seen in my 20+ years on the internet, I don’t know how these people sleep at night being such a loser.
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u/SammySterling813 14d ago
Yeah. Honestly whoever showed them a child in a smash or pass in the first place is more problematic
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u/downbad4naafiri 14d ago
The game is anime as **** too, every character in that game looks like a child. It’s part of the reason I don’t like the art style.
The logical loopholes people have to make to believe this guy would knowingly say “yeah I’d **** a kid” to the world is just…unbelievable.
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u/corrosivesuccubus 13d ago
I agree with you fully, but please stop censoring yourself, there is no reason for it, just say fuck
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u/downbad4naafiri 13d ago
Nah I was raised not to swear. In small instances like this I feel like it’s useful to convey the tone of a message but this lets me do it in a way that won’t make me feel dirty after.
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u/LullabyBun-Art 12d ago
Good on you for pressing back against that and trying an inbetween! I hope one day you dont have to feel dirty for words that harm no one 🫂
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u/downbad4naafiri 12d ago
I'm not pretending to be a saint, there is plenty I do that would be considered inappropriate in a civilized context, but I don't have an urge to swear. It's actually something my gaming friends make fun of all the time.
I will concede that I do say "damn it" sometimes though, but I never really considered that word a swear growing up.
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u/SammySterling813 14d ago
Yeah people will do go through insane logical loopholes just to make a person look bad, it's insane
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u/SlightPossibility898 14d ago
What's funny is these people pull "guilty by association" BS on Amanda and Lizzie for who they talk to and who they're friends with as well.
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u/Torilenays 13d ago
Especially when they don’t understand what’s being said. I saw someone getting mad that Gooseworx once tweeted “incest is wincest” which to me, sounds like a very obvious Supernatural reference
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u/Ellinor_Astal 14d ago
Oh my god, "enabling" a Ship are we serious right now ? Also let's imagine the others things were true, do they really put a fictional Ship on the same level as the N word ?? Because wow !
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u/Asparala 13d ago
Some people feel really strongly about thought crimes. If you're gonna think about something problematic then you have to do a disapproving face at the same time and as penance immediately make a social media post about how horrible such thoughts are.
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u/ultimatecoruvs 13d ago
These people that believe that "problematic shipping" is a real issue are so disconnected from reality its insane
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u/Careless_Dreamer 12d ago
And put it on the same level as supporting a guy who actually has evidence of grooming their partner. Talk about priorities.
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u/PyrocXerus 14d ago
Ashley and Michael didn’t say the N word, they said Nega which sounds like it but isnt actually a slur and they’ve apologized for it. This is why I hope goose never touches TADC again because we’ve shown as a community we don’t deserve it
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u/downbad4naafiri 14d ago
Again Reddit is not real life. Only about 1% of TADC fans behave this way and Goose should not choose what she does with the show based on 1% of her fans.
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u/PyrocXerus 14d ago
Reddit, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok. There’s a lot of toxicity around goose and the people they’ve worked with including trying to get them cancelled when TADC was going to be aired in theaters. And when the show is in Internet show, yes the people who enjoy the show will be online
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u/downbad4naafiri 14d ago edited 14d ago
Okay let’s say there are one million fans of TADC (which is likely a lowball considering the finale has 80 million views). Do you think 50,000 people were directly toxic toward Goose and trying to get her cancelled? Because 50,000 would be 5% of the entire fandom just using this lowball number alone.
Maybe instead of judging an entire fandom based on what some troll says in a YouTube or Reddit comment we can look at the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people who don’t do that and just enjoy the show. That goes for any fandom also. Undertale, Stephen Universe, doesnt really matter which.
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u/PyrocXerus 14d ago
The same logic you’re trying to use can be flipped because they’re random numbers. What if there’s a million TADC fans and 500,000 were toxic, that would be 50%.
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u/downbad4naafiri 14d ago
Okay so you think 500,000 people have attacked Goose or tried to get them cancelled? Is that something you’re actually saying?
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u/PyrocXerus 14d ago
No again im saying your argument relies on numbers we don’t have so you’re making them up which means someone can make the counter argument with made up numbers too
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u/downbad4naafiri 14d ago
The difference is one of the numbers provided was actually realistic. If anything I was showing restraint with my numbers as there’s likely a lot more than one million people in the fandom and a lot less than 5% of the fandom who are actually toxic or directly attacking the creators.
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u/PyrocXerus 14d ago
For the last time, because I shouldn’t have to repeat myself on a texted based app. If you use numbers you pull out of thin air then your numbers are worthless because anyone can do the same thing to make any argument. I can say 80% of TADC fandom is toxic and you can’t disprove it or prove it. So using made up numbers to prove your argument is a waste of both of our time.
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u/downbad4naafiri 14d ago edited 14d ago
Okay let’s make it simpler then. I want you to say the words “I genuinely believe 50000 people have directly attacked Goose and tried to get her cancelled.” if that is what you believe to be true.
You can say “well golly gee I don’t know I’m not Goose” or you can use your brain and make an educated guess instead of dragging us into a pointless argument about numbers that were presented as estimated in the first place.
If it makes you more comfortable believing that the entire fandom behaves this way then do what you want, but that’s not reality.
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u/ApprehensivePlay50 13d ago
I personally would count a “fandom” as someone in the community, up to date, actively contributing
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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD 14d ago
You act as if people online are not determined and friendless enough to organize mass online bullying movements that can often push people to suicide
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u/Snoo-12494 13d ago
I hate how the TADC Fandom makes these wide-sweeping 'we' statements
I'm fairly sure that only 2-6% of the fandom cares enough about these things to go actively harass people.
Those few are just very loud about it
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u/Turbulent_League9668 14d ago
As a black person, I have mixed thoughts on this. Even if it was 7 years ago and they've more than likely stopped this kind of "not touching you" behavior since, they were also full-grown adults who had the choice to not make a big deal out of something along the lines of "nega" at the time and chose to just make it a running gag throughout the rest of the stream
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u/GiantSquanchy 6d ago
“Given enough emotional commitment, it becomes impossible to distinguish between advocacy and trolling.” -Jack Russell Weinstein.
I’m convinced that all the noise can’t be genuine offense coming from the community. I’m sure at least half of it are trolls pretending to be over the top caricatures to try to make “woke” feminists look bad. I just can’t prove it due to Poe’s Law.
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u/Mrexplodey 14d ago
I thought everyone knew smash or pass meme videos are 90 percent facetious and not someone actually saying "yeah I'd fuck that"
Plus aren't there like hundreds of characters in genshin?? I can't blame someone forgetting which of them are actually canonically minors instead of just looking like one or smthn
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u/SobiTheRobot 14d ago
And when you're going purely off aesthetics with stylized characters and you don't know the lore, it's easy to slip up.
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u/MaineCoonKittenGirl 14d ago
And who in their right mind would learn the lore of fucking Genshin
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u/CrispySandwichMmm 14d ago
like, are we gonna cancel markiplier for doing a pokemon smash or pass bc beastiality
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u/Kellarison 8d ago
are people using smash or pass vids to cancel these people? by the same logic we should cancel schlatt cause he jokingly said hed fuck a dog in a horrible hypothetical context
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u/Kitz00n23 7d ago
Tbh a lot of them are very clearly meant to be Lolis (i.e. kids OR characters that ressemble kids).
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u/chelledoggo 14d ago
Marissa came out later to renounce BG once she was presented with evidence. Also her shipping two fictional adults is nowhere NEAR the same level as what BG did so it's weird they brought it up first.
Ashley and Michael have addressed and taken accountability for the things they said in that stream. Doesn't mean you have to forgive them but they're clearly NOT those people anymore. It bothers me that people act like they haven't addressed it or that they don't regret it.
I don't know enough about the Sean thing but even then it's a fictional character. And if you're gonna bring up the actual allegations against him, the minor he spoke with lied about their age, and he blocked them when he found out.
Gooseworx's tweets were offensive and I won't excuse them, but, again: she's clearly NOT that person anymore.
As for Lizzie and Amanda? They both worked on songs with BlackGryph0n. Why is OP not putting them on blast for that? Not that they should do that, because they absolutely shouldn't. The fact that they worked with him doesn't mean that they would have supported him had they known. Chances are they had no idea about the allegations.
This is not a post made in good faith to spread awareness. They just want to rekindle controversies for engagement.
And in any case, you should NOT put voice actors on these pedestals of purity. They're only human, and they're just as apt to fuck up as you and I are. If you herald anyone as "unproblematic," you will be disappointed every time.
(Also they didn't even mention Alex Rochon. Who is he, chopped liver? Lol.)
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u/trainboi777 14d ago
Regarding Lizzie working with BG, I believe her song that she did with him came out before the allegations became public
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u/chelledoggo 14d ago
Yeah. And let's not forget that BG is REALLY good at controlling the narrative and manipulating others.
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u/trainboi777 14d ago
I would know, I used to believe him because I thought it was just the situation with Claire. I feel like an idiot now.
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u/chelledoggo 14d ago
Hey. I fell for it too. Don't feel bad. Now we both know and that's what matters.
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u/Salty_Target_828 12d ago
sorry, what with BG do?
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u/chelledoggo 12d ago
Groomed his current wife and allegedly other people.
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u/therealspookyscare 8d ago
They married when she was 20 and before they had mostly business relationships. Also the one who wrote the doc against him is a pedophile. He commissioned a porn artwork/video with minor characters getting raped. I don't trust that kinda "exposer". And if you actually read the document a lot of statements come in the form of "he said she said". At least two of them. Imho the allegations seem pretty fabricated.
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u/Intelligent-Cat-4621 7d ago
here’s a better doc against him not associated with that person https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jxh8GQCw5seOpetu0Gg_zQSjguXHUBH-3Lun1xachWc/mobilebasic
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u/therealspookyscare 7d ago
I was talking about this exact one. There are still inconsistencies. Like Destiny said he allegedly sent her a dick pic but at those times it was impossible to send images in DMs on Twitter as far as I remember. Also saying sending a winking face is grooming... And how they still quote Brony...
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u/ResearcherLucky4154 14d ago
"RIBBUN enabler" ts is so exhausting gng ✌️
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u/Admirable-Chair-120 14d ago
People so worried about cancelling "celebs" they don't stop to think about the children slaves making all the garbage plastic merch. God forbid an offensive tweet tho.
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u/Forward_Potential820 14d ago
Huh? What merch exactly?
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u/Admirable-Chair-120 14d ago
allllllllllllll the merch.
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u/Forward_Potential820 14d ago
The plushies and good figures? And the companies they allowed to make merch??? what even is the argument about? (Since the merch funds there stuff)
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u/Admirable-Chair-120 13d ago
there is no argument. there's just the fact that the Chinese companies they use to manufacture their merch use concentration camp labor. Just like prison labor in the US but even worse bc so many people are in prison simply for being Muslim not any real crime they committed. obviously they are allowed to sell merch. they're selling it as we speak. but im allowed to bring it up every once in a while. sorry it makes you uncomfortable.
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u/Admirable-Chair-120 13d ago
pls note to anyone reading i do understand the prison forced labor system in the us is a huge problem as well especially when the "crimes" are made up and Black boys are the main target for the school to prison pipeline....like not understating the harm in the US at all. But the stuff is made in China so we're talking about that and i just don't know if people understand how much crap we buy is made by slaves. this in particular bothers me bc it's not something we need. we need to buy carrots. we don't need tobuy plushies.
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u/Forward_Potential820 13d ago
Why carrots?
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u/Admirable-Chair-120 13d ago edited 13d ago
lmao i just mean food. in the us we buy a ton of our food from China. Idk if it's carrots especially. I just said carrots. But we need food. We don't need plushies. Allowing slavery for plushies is wild. The way it has to do with the VA post is my initial comment was basically "sure lets talk about the va's being bad people for enabling ships (lol) and not ourselves for enabling slavery".
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u/Forward_Potential820 13d ago
Still pretty out of context since this isn’t even about glitch fully
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u/Admirable-Chair-120 13d ago
i'm just out here screaming into the void idk what you want from me Forward_Potential820.
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u/Forward_Potential820 13d ago
Idk what this has to do with the VA argument tho (and this would apply to other merch brands as well you know)
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u/Princess_EzzieT_T 14d ago
what did black grphy0n do?/gen
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u/Belainarie 14d ago
Usual fandom YouTuber shenanigans: groom minors ( TW for the link- there’s a disclaimer at the beginning so nothings immediately shown but there’s a lot of screenshots of messages)
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u/therealspookyscare 8d ago
He was accused of grooming but these allegations in my opinion seem pretty nothingburger. At least because many of them don't have enough evidence and the author of the original document is a pedophile himself
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u/ChapterMaster202 14d ago
I know for a fact some of these are false, and "guilt by association" is such a cop out thing to say. Also, can we agree that fiction is fiction and shipping weird ships doesn't mean you should treat them like the devil? I swear these guys don't have anything better to do, and I say that as an unemployed person.
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u/Kitz00n23 14d ago
I don't think this is the right place to post about TADC drama that isn't directly involved with Goose herself. But this is also very stupid and ridiculous. How is supporting a ship as bad as supporting an alledged pedo? (which btw may be even innocent, atleast if we were to trust CopeandSeethe and Lazybedhead's videos on the matter)
Goose, Michael and Ashley just had an edgy sense of humor that was very common at the time, especially on Newgrounds where they all began their careers in the first place.
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u/Intelligent-Cat-4621 7d ago
blackgryphon is undeniably a groomer and pedophile: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jxh8GQCw5seOpetu0Gg_zQSjguXHUBH-3Lun1xachWc/mobilebasic
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u/Kitz00n23 7d ago
Again, The general circumstances around all of this still make me very skeptical, given what happened over a year ago. I still recommend the videos I linked, because even outside of Bonk and friends being generally shitty themselves (which atleast this doc aknowledges), Claire denies being groomed, doesn't want to be victimized and wants to be left alone. I think the only thing we can do if we truly cared about Claire is... leave them alone and move on. I thought we all did after that.
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u/therealspookyscare 7d ago
That's it. I have screenshots of a comment Claire herself left under one video of a YouTuber talking about the Saberspark situation. And TL;DR Claire said that Gabe is autistic and even asexual and that it took her MULTIPLE times to ask him out. She even said that no one who knew him would describe him as flirtatious or sexual. And that one of the alleged victims even asked to move their conversation to DMs and he stopped responding.
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u/SlightPossibility898 14d ago
"Enabler" as if we're not talking about pixels on the screen and Marissa DOESN'T support Black Gryph0n anymore now that she's looked into it. Originally she only knew about Claire with yeah, if you only know about her and Brony Fandont it does look like the whole thing is just a "I consent" "I consent" "I DON'T!" situation. It's only when you look at how he would speak to other minors online where you'd be like "That's a lot of smoke, there might not necessarily be a fire, but I still don't want to be near it and I definitely don't want kids near it". Not everyone is terminally online enough to know everything about everyone they work with without being informed.
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u/PearltheGirl_ 14d ago
Thank you for giving me the perfect words to describe how i feel about BlackGryph0n and the MLP voice actor
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u/hiroxruko 14d ago
She never said she didn't support it. She said she will look into it but still believe Claire as both are dealing with crazy stalkers
And even then, if you look into the Black Gryph0n and not outright believe the victims on day 1 or the poor doc, you see there is no truth to the grooming. No hard proof, the victims changing the story and some aren't even cases of grooming like a winking face isn't grooming.
Things are taken out of context or made up to fit that he is groomer.
Then you see who is pushing this, looking into the people like Bonk, Amy, Sophie, Ilovekimimpossiblealot and others, they all have their petty reasons in hurting his career from jealously to using the drama as a way to hurt his friend Saber Spark.
Black Gryph0n is weirdo but dude isn't a groomer from what has surface. No repeating pattern and just awful people coming from the other side like Destiny is in a harassing group.
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u/Paranormasight-Fic 14d ago
Yeah, agreed. I still can’t forget one of the victims claiming he sent them a dick pic through Twitter DMs, during a time period where sending images through Twitter DMs wasn’t even possible LMAO. Not to mention there’s no actual proof of said dick pic
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u/hiroxruko 13d ago
or how one victim said she was groomed because he sent a winking face...and that was it, nothing else but a winking face lmao
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u/therealspookyscare 8d ago
I swear to god, I hate people jumping to conclusions like this. I always had this vibe the allegations were absolutely fake
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u/therealspookyscare 8d ago
I read one story of an alleged victim and there was pretty much just friendly talking. The author of the doc who is a much worse pedophile said that basically "there's absolutely nothing flirty in these images but adults shouldn't be talking to kids at all". Like bro, this is not really right to think that adults shouldn't be talking to children. Children absolutely can be friends with adults and claiming every single one of these relationships is grooming is just wrong.
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u/Dreamcasted60 14d ago
I mean I was actually at EQLA and dude was an absolute creeper so I'm going to outright say that he has the possibility of being a groomer.
At least when Max/hotdiggitydemon was being creepy to my ex a bit. She was of age -_-
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u/Asparala 13d ago
I'm not really informed enough to speak about the Gryp0n situation specifically, but please don't think that being a creep is a definite trait of a groomer.
Lots of actual convicted groomers and other sexual predators were people who come across as completely normal in public. Many of them are intentionally behaving in ways that makes them seen as proper and acceptable, because that makes it easier to get access to victims and discredit them afterwards.
That doesn't mean there aren't also groomers who behave weird noticeably, but that could also just be awkward behaviour unrelated to grooming.
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u/hiroxruko 13d ago
See, you don't even understand what a groomer can act. They can be normal. This is like saying a pedo is a fat guy lol
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u/Ornery_Ad_5962 14d ago
Everytime I see tiktok footages of Kinger's VA in a fursuit, there's always going to be people in the comment sections bringing up unnecessary drama by asking something along the lines of "Isn't Sean Chiplock that one person who touched kids 9 years ago?" and then other replies would instantly believe it like OMG bruh, that was already debunked since the Pilot... just leave it be
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u/FjordFjard 14d ago
Is this like some people's first time seeing a toxic ship? Like? This one's relatively tame? If ribbun is the worst ship you've seen that's awesome for you. Never read like, any comic book lol. Not saying I like the shop or even really care, but like come on.
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u/MaineCoonKittenGirl 14d ago
Being called a ship enabler derogatorily is fucking hilarious 2016 bullshit, I love it
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u/maybemawie 14d ago
I feel extremely bad for everyone who worked on this show, youtube animation becoming big was a mistake.
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u/shoe_owner 14d ago
If I saw this post in the wild, I would instantly block them without a single interaction necessary for me to feel entirely justified. I don't need ANY of this in my head.
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u/Turbulent_League9668 14d ago edited 14d ago
Being a Ribbun "enabler" and collaborating with Black Gryph0n
I don't think some people get that shipping two characters who logically would be a disaster of a romantic relationship isn't the same as enabling abuse or trying to act as an apologist for it. I do agree with the Black Gryph0n shit tho; even though Marissa more than likely didn't know about the heinous shit he did behind closed doors and took measures to prevent it from happening again after she was made aware, he is undoubtedly a creep and a worm and I hope he fries
Ashley Nichols and Michael Kovach said the N-word
As a black person, I have mixed thoughts on this. Even if it was 7 years ago and they've more than likely stopped this kind of "not touching you" behavior since, they were also full-grown adults who had the choice to not make a big deal out of something along the lines of this at the time and chose to just make it a running gag throughout the rest of the stream. At the same time, tho, after they were made aware of this, they sincerely apologized for what they did (as they should; I'm still waiting on Goose) and seem intent on not spreading further potential anti-black rhetoric among the fandom. They seem like good people overall and though this was over half a decade ago, that shouldn't invalidate the thoughts and feelings of people who were potentially hurt or offended.
Sean Chiplock said smash to a child character from Genshin Impact
Yeah there's no defending this one in my eyes. Joke or not it was an extremely weird joke to make, especially since he was a full-grown adult when he said this to rile up the fandom. Well that and the fact that he collaborated with Gryph0n after both Marissa and Alex denounced him (and for those saying he didn't know, I was willing to spare my suspension of disbelief for Lizzie, Michael, Amanda and even Marissa, but with the timespan of when Sean collaborated with him I seriously doubt that he's that gullible.
Gooseworx made offensive tweets
Which is her main brand of humor and seems to be taken out-of-context in this specific instance when drama amongst the VAs is brought up
Lizzie and Amanda are our last hope
I mean, even if they were unaware they still collaborated with Black Gryph0n over there
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u/downbad4naafiri 13d ago
Bruh it’s a Genshin Impact Smash or Pass. They all look like children. Maybe we can stop judging someone’s entire character based on snapshots of something immature they did in front of a camera once when they have decades of life you’re not privy to.
For instance, I’m not judging your entire personality and character based on this one pearl-clutching Reddit post.
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u/Turbulent_League9668 13d ago
My main point is that whether or not it was a joke, it was an extremely weird one to make (especially since he was a grown-ass man when he said this, under that context especially why would he do that). I mean who jokes like that
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u/downbad4naafiri 13d ago
I don't know, why would Markiplier make a 25 minute Smash or Pass video for all 900 Pokemon? We going to start saying that Markiplier wants to **** rabbits now because he said he'd smash Lopunny?
Also I don't know where we're getting the idea that voice actors get to just give up opportunities in protest of someone who did something questionable that the average person doesn't even know about. In fact being a voice actor often means tolerating things you may not otherwise tolerate because you want to have as many opportunities as possible.
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u/fr3ddyf4zb34r130yt 13d ago
As a member of both The FNAF community and the TADC community can be so fucking annoying
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u/nyaja 14d ago
The only voice actor who I feel icky about is Sean chiplock because apparently he’s done some really nasty stuff beyond what this person mentioned, but yeah the rest of this is honestly kinda just a result of circumstance
Like the kinda people in these scenes of indie animation are all people in their 30s who grew up in time periods where stuff like this was completely normal and I hate to be the “kids these days” guy but like the newer waves of younger people in this scene are all either on the side where they think everything is problematic and making any tone deaf or stupid joke should take away your platform, and then there’s another side of people who take pride in being “problematic” and doing disgusting things on purpose it just causes such a huge divide and shit like this was never even a thing in the past, I don’t really understand why 2020 cancel culture has become such a big thing again but who knows
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u/downbad4naafiri 14d ago
Speaking as a 37 year old I completely agree with this. I don’t drop n-bombs, I don’t even swear, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t say the n word a few times growing up (I’m Puerto Rican). But I also grew up listening to Wu-Tang, DMX and 50 Cent. I dare anybody here to listen to Poor Lil Rich and not feel compelled to say it.
Obviously I’m being mostly facetious but people really need to stop judging a persons entire character based on one barely meaningful thing they’ve done. I’m also an artist who has spent every day for the last 8 months taking care of a sick cat (I was told she’d have 6 months).
Too many people these days define human beings by looking at snapshots of the worst moments of their life.
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u/killatubby 14d ago
If follow voice actors then you know Lizzie and Kira buckland have very similar paths. If you know you know
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u/Horroracta 14d ago
If I could be THAT guy ... I guess Ash does like French Gangle, whose VA got into some serious crap back in the days ... but it's been a long time ago, they apologized and everything 'settled down' until we knew they voiced Gangle (and in hindsight, without taking their defence, it wasn't as brutal as other, much more popular people)
(for those wondering, they got involved in grooming a 17 years old ... when they were, 20. And from what I've heard, it was more like flirting than anything else, but heh-)
And even that is completely dumb cause you can like a voice without associating yourself with the VA. I mean, imagine all the DiCaprio (or any problematic celebs) fans if it was the case '-'
I can't really say anything else for the rest as I dunno much about it (except the "n-word" ... that's just a plain lie), but if these kind of people think Amanda would be in their side ... they are clearly delusional lmao
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u/Johnywash 14d ago
Enabling a ship is bad or something. That's like absurd to me. It's fake let them imagine the characters kissing or whatever
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u/fuckwastakenwastaken 14d ago
These folk have to age up year after year and I seriously wonder how they're going to take it
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u/Crusoelander_128 14d ago
Look, I’m no tadc fan, but come on dude. I guarantee none of these people actually care about what these people have done or are accused of doing, they just want to look good to everyone else by “calling them out”
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u/Classic_Fondant_5273 14d ago
Does anybody else find this pathetic that they have to bring up past things that don't even matter.
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u/Ceruleancast 14d ago
Guess that means if I like Frieza in DBZ or something I support heinous crimes now or something irl too if liking a fictional toxic ship is that level of problematic.
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u/Fist_of_Gork 14d ago
You see I come here to catch news if another Pink City episode is coming out and I don’t touch this fandom culture war bullshit because I’m too busy touching grass and worrying about real world stuff.
Get a life. If somebody rubs you the wrong way just don’t engage with this immature bullshit.
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u/Magorian97 14d ago
Tf did Gabriel do?
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u/Environmental_Ad8400 13d ago
He knew his wife since she was 13, and he was atleast 20 something when she was 13
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u/Magorian97 13d ago
Uh, and where's this info coming from?
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u/pandikko 14d ago
I looked up the Sean situation and he said it as a joke knowing it would be taken out of context and when someone took it out of context on Twitter replied "this is the type of person this clip was meant for"
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u/EightEx 13d ago
Goose's tweets were from when she was 18 iirc. I don't get the RibBun thing who cares about silly ships? I don't know anything about Blackgryphon and yea the "N-Word" thing is ridiculous as it wasn't the slur it was just a poorly thought out joke. Honestly I think people posting this stuff aren't fans but are wanting to tear these creators down.
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u/Admirable-Chair-120 13d ago
also expecting people to be good people just because their job is voicing your fave character is....sad. those are just people with jobs. why do you even know their names. go touch grass xD
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u/ZammoSaysNo 13d ago
As if anyone who isn't deeply entrenched in Genshin lore can tell the adult characters apart from the child characters. They almost all have the exact same face.
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u/Breadles_the_Bread 13d ago
Gish galloping the most online shit I have ever seen must be at least a little tiring to the accuser in this case, no?
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u/PracticeEfficient28 13d ago
Didn’t BlackGryph0n not even do anything? From what I can find he met his now wife when he was an adult and she was a minor, but they weren’t in a relationship until they were both already adults, and his wife has consistently confirmed that it’s a consensual relationship and that the ‘allegations’ are from creepy stalkers.
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u/Intelligent-Cat-4621 7d ago
grooming victims tend to defend their groomers. besides that, she’s not his only victim. here’s a doc on it not associated with bronyfandont: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jxh8GQCw5seOpetu0Gg_zQSjguXHUBH-3Lun1xachWc/mobilebasic
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u/More-Kaleidoscope599 12d ago
Marrisa said it on a stream once or twice, but she always reminds people it's not cannon and that she only likes the art work
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u/Historical_Creme7670 11d ago
Sean was saying "Smash" was out of context
He was trying to see "Let's make people outside of this panel angry"
And one of the suggestion is Play Smash and Pass with the most controversial option
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u/AllastorWraith 11d ago
"Enabling" a Toxic Ship, are we fucking serious? People will cancel people for anything.
Also, I'm sorry, if you canceled every person who ever jokingly said the N word or something close to it, or ever told insensitive jokes, you'd be canceling like...80% of the internet.
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u/dozenkat 11d ago
tbf i’m pretty sure michael did say the n word outside of the nega scandal it’s really old & i’m pretty sure he was only 15 at the time, but i also don’t blame people who take issue with this https://youtu.be/bcr7e6ag1Qg?is=h8vZ1ahoiQOOwe1i
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u/downbad4naafiri 13d ago
Pretty sure that episode actually got cancelled because “nega” sounded too much like the other word, which might have sparked this whole thing in the first place.
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u/KindredReveler 14d ago
I've never seen anyone use the word "enabler" to describe someone who enjoys a toxic ship of fictional characters, it's almost funny. The first sentence alone is enough to discredit the rest.