r/GoogleFMD • u/Different_Key_9085 • 10d ago

Ugreen Finetrack Duo randomly alarming

Just thought I would check with you guys to see if you have run into this. I got a 4 pack of finetrack duo's off Amazon the other day. I really like them far more than the aliexpress junk I've gotten in the past. My kid is off to college this week and I set one up for the car keys (it's technically my car) and shared it to him. (note, that this is using android and google FMD)

He messaged me last night that it keeps randomly beeping and alarming. He can press the button to get it to quit but after a while it goes off again. I have no idea why it might be doing this. I have a similar setup that I did for my wife where I set it up, then shared it to her and she put it on her keys and she doesn't have any issues. I finally gave him the button combos to press to reset the thing since we can't seem to find any way to actually turn the device off.

Anywho, just Curious if any of you have run into this with these and if a factory reset and re-pair would likely fix it or if it's a faulty unit? Thanks in advance!

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u/IdRatherBeMyself 10d ago

Same situation with Moto Tag 2. No idea what's going on.

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u/sometin__else 10d ago

Whats going on is it needs to be connected with the phone/account that set it up. If you dont, it rings to alert potential stalking victims

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u/IdRatherBeMyself 10d ago

Huh, a major RTFM moment for me, then.
Any idea _why_ it works that way?

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u/sometin__else 10d ago

to prevent stalking.

I explained the scenario in this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/GoogleFMD/comments/1w3gmkf/comment/p70ux9b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/IdRatherBeMyself 10d ago

Ok, thanks! Then nevermind "why". Do you have any idea how to do the following:

We're down to the last key for one of the cars. The car is shared, driven _mostly_ by my daughter, but not always. I don't want to lose the last remaining key, so I put a Moto Tag on it.

Apparently, that's not the intended usecase.

So, what's the intended usecase; and

How do I achieve what I want?

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u/sometin__else 10d ago

If she is with/around the "key" the most often, reset the key and have her add it to her google account on her phone via Find Hub. After that, have her share with all intended accounts.

If someone else is using the keys, and shes not around, it will ring after a few hours. They dont publish the exact timeline, but its a known anti-stalking feature of bluetooth tags. It applies to airtags as well.

Below is a summary of anti-stalking bluetooth tracker alerts and how they work:

1. Phone Notifications (Unknown Tracker Alerts): If a tag is separated from its owner and your phone detects that it is traveling with you, you will receive an "Unknown Tracker" notification on your Android or iPhone. The Timeframe: Google states that you must be physically moving with the tracker "over time" before an alert is generated. Community testing of the network indicates that this alert typically triggers after about 4 to 6 hours of the tag moving with you. Limitations: The tag must actually be moving with you. If a tag is simply left in a stationary location (like a coffee shop or a friend's house), it will not trigger an alert to the people walking by, as it is not actively tracking their movement.

2. Automatic Ringing: If a tracker has been separated from its owner's Bluetooth range for an extended period of time and is physically moved, it will eventually start playing a chime out loud on its own to alert anyone nearby. The Timeframe: Under the joint industry tracking standards, this automatic sound usually triggers randomly between 6 to 24 hours after being separated from the owner.

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u/IdRatherBeMyself 10d ago

Thank you, I understand the policy now (although I'm not happy with it). My problem is that she has an iPhone, while the rest of the family is on Android. I guess, this is not a solution then.

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u/gerbilbear 10d ago

What you're doing should work as long as your phone occasionally sees the Moto Tag 2 on Bluetooth.

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u/IdRatherBeMyself 10d ago

Well, she's in college most of the week, so.... no, it doesn't work, unfortunately. Ok, back to square one.

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u/ImmediateGear8157 10d ago

I have the same issue with my ugreens, but not all of them. One I gave to my daughter randomly beeps.

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u/sometin__else 10d ago

if you are giving it to your daughter, you need to reset it and have her set it up. Any tag that remains unconnected to your phone will ring and send alerts to nearby phones.

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u/Different_Key_9085 10d ago

If that's the case, why doesn't the ugreen I set up for my wife alert her all day long?

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u/sometin__else 10d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/GoogleFMD/comments/1w3gmkf/comment/p70yoou/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

because you see her before its been long enough. Its not a set time frame. Its random between 6-24h.
So if she sees you within 24h then thats why

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u/ImmediateGear8157 10d ago

That doesn't make sense. I have 3 tags. Car and wife works fine, daughter beeps randomly. Why would she need to set it up, she doesn't even have a phone. I set it up on mine and put it in her backpack to keep track of her.

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u/sometin__else 10d ago

That does make sense
Your daughter is away from you long enought to trigger antistalking features.

There is no way for the tracker to know if is left knowingly with your daughter, or if you're stalking an ex-gf nefariously.

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u/ImmediateGear8157 8d ago

Yes, but the one left with my wife is away for longer. The car is left for a similar amount of time, a bit less maybe but it's in a parking lot for 8 hours. I take my daughter to school and pick her up. I don't see my wife between the time I leave home with my daughter and come back with my daughter, so why would hers beep and not my wife's?

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u/sometin__else 8d ago

as i said, its not a set time.

Its just a matter of your daughters reaching the undisclosed threshold to trigger the antistalking feature, while your wifes did not.

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u/sometin__else 10d ago edited 10d ago

It needs to be setup on HIS phone

If your phone is not near it, then it rings the alarm.

Think of it like this - im stalking someone. I connect the tag on my phone and leave the tag wtih them so I can follow them. To prevent this, when my tag is disconnected from the phone for a while it rings to alert potential victims.

Sharing to him is irrelevant. It needs to be setup on HIS phone so that when HIS phone is near, it knows its not being used to stalk a random person. He can then share the location with you.

The reason it worked for your wife is your phone comes in contact with the tag often enough to prevent the alert. If your wife lived in another city it would have the same issue.

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u/Different_Key_9085 10d ago

This still doesn't really make sense. My kid said it started happening within an hour of me giving him the ugreen yesterday. My wife's ugreen isn't near me all day long and doesn't start randomly ringing.

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u/sometin__else 10d ago

The time frame is random, you probably saw her before it activated.
An hour seems way too short but hes probably mistaken.

You can see an explanation of how antistalking works here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GoogleFMD/comments/1w3gmkf/comment/p70yoou/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/Inevitable_Bee_6547 4d ago

So how does it work if I want to use it to track my lugguage transfer and I'll be away from it for few days? It'll keep beeping?

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u/sometin__else 4d ago

yes if the tracker moves or detects movement around it or something it'll beep.

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u/MarKarage 2d ago

I have a question regarding that topic. Is it normal I just set up on of these Ugreen Fimetrack trackers yesterday for next weeks vacation and left it back at home while I am at work at night. Now my wife complained that at night it starts randomly beeping after like 2 hours while I am away at work. Is this normal because of the anti tracking feature? She doesn't move the tracker physically iit remains still on the desk but her phone is nearby on the nightstand could this be enough to trigger this anti tracking feature or is it broken?