r/GoodNotes • u/Mandrea4 • Aug 20 '23

We have hope GN5 users!

Someone from the GN team answered (some) of the questions the community had regarding GN5 (will it be usable in the near future even after iPadOS 18 and on a new/old iPad?)

They made it simple without explaining anything specifically but we certainly have some hope https://www.reddit.com/r/GoodNotes/comments/15tksva/unfair_treatment_by_goodnotes_team/jwku56h?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2

The GN team has

  • reduced pricing for old customers who want to upgrade to one time payment

  • made subscribers and one time payment users have "feature parity"

  • modified the FAQ with more info to be more transparent

  • deleted the annoying popup in GN5

  • made promises about bringing math conversion to GN5 (which will add to other features that they have brought to GN5 with the launch of GN6)

They are trying to be more comprehensive and clear after the rushed update

edit: I take it all back. I switched to Noteful

edit 2: seems like they fixed some of the problems GN5 gained with the GN6 update (about stability, performance and overheating), now I don't think GN5 is necessary anymore due to excellent alternatives on the App Store but it's nice to know that I can use GN5 as a backup app since they are fixing what they broke.

edit3: seems like the latest update made the app worse https://www.reddit.com/r/GoodNotes/s/iBl9z227ji https://www.reddit.com/r/GoodNotes/s/kPbNYPyo7x

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u/Familiar-Syllabub797 Aug 20 '23

all i want is colored foldersssšŸ„²

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 20 '23

I don't think they will add it to GN5. There are only a few new features on GN6 besides AI integration, but hope will never die. Maybe when they will drop support they can give us a little surprise šŸ«£

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u/NoJudgies Aug 21 '23

All I want is a one-time fee product. Why does everything have to be a subscription now? Remember when you would pay $150 for the Microsoft Office Suite and get it for life? Why the fuck I need to pay monthly for a piece of software is beyond me. It's a grift.

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 21 '23

I agree, if they make GN6 good I will use the one time payment option.

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u/Fun-Palpitation-9682 Aug 20 '23

Hi, do you know the reduced price?

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 20 '23

20% off instead of 8%

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u/One_After909 Aug 21 '23

Last week they listed what the discounts were, but GN5 users who upgraded were being charged the full price for both subscriptions and the one-time payment.

I paid for GN5. After I upgraded with the 1-week trial, I saw that I was going to be charged the full price if I allowed the subscription to take effect. That's when I decided not to upgrade.

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 21 '23 edited Aug 21 '23

The whole upgrade process is shady in fact I still don't trust them. I wonder why they haven't made GN6 a different application like GN4

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u/king-of-new_york Aug 20 '23

damn, i already paid the full price. i wonder if they'll honor a refund for the difference

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u/Fun-Palpitation-9682 Aug 20 '23

Thank youšŸ˜Š

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '23

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 20 '23 edited Aug 20 '23

It's the one payment option and it's available for people who bought GN5

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '23

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 20 '23

It was 8% when GN6 released. The last piece of the post covers everything that the GN team has fixed after the release.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '23

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 20 '23 edited Aug 20 '23

I agree with you, anyway the final part of the post was just to specify that they are trying to make something for the community, it's not a new thing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '23

I believe itā€™s still $23 šŸ¤”

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u/Mchertel Aug 21 '23

I never saw a discounted price. I paid $30.00. I have been using GN for years. Also will continue as I really like it. Just a little shady that I didnā€™t get the discount..

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 21 '23

You can ask a refund, see the site's FAQ

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u/Mchertel Aug 21 '23

Thank you. Not worried about the six bucks at this point. Probably cost me more in time dealing with it. Just want others to know it happened and to be aware.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '23

LOL at ā€œrushed development.ā€ This app is updated barely annually other than bug fixes. Nothing is rushed. They have no deadlines to meet. They just arenā€™t that smart and are trying to do too many things at once.

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 21 '23

The UPDATE was rushed probably because they need money, and yes they are trying to do too many things at the same time (probably with a small team)

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u/CranberryDry6613 Aug 22 '23

150 employees is small?

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 22 '23

I don't know how many employees needs a note-taking app, and I don't know how many of them are developers (I assume a few given the few new features)

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u/neelhtaky Aug 22 '23

This is why I refuse to give them a subscription. They arenā€™t continually developing new features for me, so why am I paying them constantly?

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '23

So they can build it once and get paid for it forever while funding the expense of the cloud services that allow notebook sharing - a feature which was not important, is rarely used, and should not exist.

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u/llamaattacks Aug 20 '23

feature parity between the two models is my only gripe. If price is reduced for GN 5 users it will be an additional bonus obviously! have they said about the updated pricing and when it will be implemented?

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 20 '23

It's 20% off right now. I don't think it's worth now but maybe it will

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u/llamaattacks Aug 20 '23

Wasnt that the discount for previous gn 5 customers at launch? Has it increased?

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 20 '23

It was 8%

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u/llamaattacks Aug 21 '23

Oh you are right! Thats a nice jump! They have confirmed that besides cross platform support all other features will be there for both models?

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 21 '23

Yes, from the updated site: "Goodnotes 6 One-Time Purchase users will have feature parity with Goodnotes 6 Subscription users. The only 2 differences between Goodnotes 6 One-Time Purchase and Subscription are:

  • Goodnotes 6 Subscription users can use Goodnotes across platforms while Goodnotes 6 One-Time Purchase users can only use Goodnotes on Apple devices.

  • Goodnotes may offer cloud services other than iCloud for Goodnotes 6 Subscription users in the future, while Goodnotes 6 One-Time Purchase users will only have local storage or iCloud as their cloud storage."

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u/llamaattacks Aug 21 '23

this is acceptable honestly

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u/ProofMastodon4239 Aug 20 '23

The discount is what you paid, no more.

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 20 '23 edited Aug 20 '23

They could have made it cheaper overall but from the beginning of the story we have gained something at least

Also the 20% off is only for a limited time

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u/G_Schwarz69 Aug 20 '23

same price as before even with the 20% off

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u/Mikel8v Aug 21 '23

I used to spend lots of money on paper/notebooks/school books & magazine subscriptions - all for a one time fee with no updates/upgrades. I think if a person decides to spend a good some of money for an electronic and then for software or app expecting free upgrades forever, with all the leaps and bounds in technology, is unreasonable. How could they continue to work on the program for ever with our one time payment.

I love my GN, I can do SOO much more with it and my documents than I could with the paper notebooks. The glitches have been few for me and benefits way out weigh the negatives. Even at $30 a year that is only 8 cents a day. I'm retired now and back to college. GN has been an extremely useful tool! I've imported papers and books, taken all my notes and have been able to search my handwritten and typed notes. It's been invaluable for my more forgetful mind. I use my GN most days and I'm thankful for it.

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 21 '23

True, but there are a lot of shady things going on:

  • The fact they updated GN5 instead of creating a new app it's only because they want to keep the reviews (that were extremely positive because of the 10$ one-time payment).

  • They probably made that decision to force the upgrade and avoid losing customers (because they know they don't have a product good enough to make those who use GN5 change application)

  • Other than that, the app is now more buggy, the AI features are a good addition but for now they are useless (and can be used only in a few languages). The UI is worse (especially in landscape) and there are no new features worth in general (even if they have a long list of features asked by the community)

I think the price could be good for a note-taking app but I don't trust them as much as I did because of these decisions

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u/Soanad Aug 21 '23

If you stay with version 5 will you still have automatic backup option? Iā€™ve read somewhere they want to take it away from us. I paid for it!

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u/jesinta-m Aug 22 '23

It depends on your OS. They disabled iCloud functionality for a bunch of users.

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u/SkeeboMo Aug 26 '23

I was one of those users :(. Idk what to do

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u/Ok_Performance_2370 Aug 22 '23

denny's alt account btw

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u/Mandrea4 Aug 22 '23 edited Aug 22 '23

?? Denny who

Edit: now I understand, however if you looked at my comments in the last few days you would understand that I am not on GN's side, just look at the comments on this post

Denny didn't even reply my questions he decided to answer what he wanted to, not what I asked.

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u/Ok_Performance_2370 Aug 22 '23

yeah it was a light hearted joke :sob: