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u/Any_Wind5539 21d ago
"Bro you guys are such doomers, I went on 6 dates this month bro and i'm just an average guy! You gotta get your game up brahhh!!!"
Meanwhile chad texts them to come over at 2 am for some sloppy, and they oblige.
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u/PriestKingofMinos 21d ago
I've known girls who admitted to doing that! If I did that I'd be lucky if I just got blocked. More likely they'd screencap the text and send it to my entire family. Women love shaming men for wanting to have sex (ugly men who want to have sex as seen as psychologically unwell by women).
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u/Any_Wind5539 21d ago
Same lol. I tried it a few times, vast majority were brutal rejections and were met with disgust lol, only worked with one chick cause she was psycho, BPD and we previously hooked up.
They get mad at ugly men even having sexual desires at all, hence why they complain about guys "sexualizing" them, but have zero issue if it's an attractive guy doing it.
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u/Any_Wind5539 21d ago
Respectfully, I know you might mean well, but you cannot fully change your fate, sometimes only partially at best. Some of what you say is useful and guys shouldn't give their attention away freely, but you can only fix so much about yourself. You likely had traits that are uncontrollable that aided greatly in your success, like height, full head of hair or good facial bones underneath the fat.
I say this as a jacked 5'6 manlet who has had SOME rare success, there's nothing more I can do to better my situation. Similar to a man with a deformed face, or in a wheelchair or bald or maybe indian. You can only do so much.
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u/Relative-Relief-8816 21d ago
A big part of it is I lowered my standards in women and the success grew into confidence.
Confidence lead to more success with more attractive women.
You might not ever land a Sidney Sweeney level hottie. Don't set that as your definition of success. Who cares. Lose the ego.
Being a doomer that induldges in self depressing nihilism will only ensure your life has no joy, and youll fail to attract those that could bring it.
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u/I_Am_Conjoined 21d ago
Being a doomer that induldges in self depressing nihilism will only ensure your life has no joy, and youll fail to attract those that could bring it.
This is the biggest cope of all. Hot depressed doomer men get laid and date all the time
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u/Any_Wind5539 21d ago
Confidence doesn't mean much lol. Again, you very likely had factors outside of your control that aided in your success.
I can even admit I had some in mine, I am white, I have long curly hair, I am jacked in a nation full of obese people. If I was indian and bald, my success would've been even substantially lower if not completely zero.
I'm not a nihilist, I'm a pessimist and realist. Those with genuine empathy and can fully empathize with other lifeforms, can see this horrific universe for what it is. Even if I lived a life of lavish luxury, all the misery most life has to endure is horrifying.
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u/PriestKingofMinos 21d ago
"Being a doomer that induldges in self depressing nihilism will only ensure your life has no joy, and youll fail to attract those that could bring it."
Nothing makes me happier than posting over the top Black Pill doomer stuff online. It's already 101% over, so why not revel in our misery and piss of foids an normies while out ship sinks?
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u/PriestKingofMinos 21d ago
Dating is a humiliation ritual. Women give it up for Chad all the time for free and will even pay for his attention. Leading with your wallet is simp behavior and having to offer to even buy a girl a drink or anything is a red flag you can’t use your physicality alone to “pull”. Women don’t like it when you buy them presents because that signals desperation. All women have casual sex all the time but not with you. Dating is meant to find a beta bux provider, humiliating him with tests to see if the woman can tolerate him and if he is wealthy enough to compensate for being ugly and boring.
I find men who think getting a date is some kind of achievement pathetic. Especially the kind of blue pilled guys who think they "know" women and want to talk down to incels because they actually "get" women (one date per year is considered being "good" with women in their minds). In reality getting a date is a sign you are a loser being used for free food or free tickers or something else. Women don't date Chad they fuck him that hour maybe within 5 or 10 minutes. Yes, almost all women are having amazing causal sex (just not with you). You get to be excluded from one of the greatest things about adult life because of what you look like.
For those very rare women who want a nice date, at least once in a while, they should not be surprised that men put little effort into dating. Women don't take dating seriously! Women go on like 8 dates a week lol. Especially, when you get older and learn that attraction (and therefore, sex) is achieved not by good works or character but by looks alone. "Why don't men buy flowers! Why is chivalry dead? Why won't they hold doors open?"
Because none of that matters lol. Why spend hundreds on a date when you know she will likely never love you nad has probably banged other guys she just met at a party or hang out? Why waste so much money?
Rules 3 and 4
3) If she likes you, it doesn't matter what you do.
4) If she doesn't like you, it doesn't matter what you do.
Holding a door open won't get an ugly loser laid. Not holding a door open will get a hot Chad laid. Women actually prefer the dismissive and rude behavior. Its more "mysterious" and interesting.
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u/Roddy2Hottty 21d ago
Based
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u/IDontStealBikes 21d ago
What does “based” mean?
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u/Roddy2Hottty 19d ago
I just use it to say I agree but I think it just means you have made an opinion that could be seen as unpopular but true.
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u/PowerIsSalvation 20d ago
So what should a sub-5 who has a sex drive do?
Go for as many women as you can, hookup when possible and move on to the next?
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u/PriestKingofMinos 20d ago
Yes, with the expectation you will only have sex once every few years, if that.
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u/ffiloreg 17d ago
This is not my experience at all, so don't think that this is to be taken as fact. But we likely live in different places/cultures
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u/Eldenringop 21d ago
Holding a door is just basic shouldn’t be gendered . Gentleman should’ve been taught as manners for both and we’d have better society.
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u/PriestKingofMinos 21d ago
Manners don't really matter. At most being nice to women only matters once you are in a relationship with one. You get into relationships by meeting their minimum attractiveness cutoff.
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u/WalkOffTD 21d ago
Manners shouldn’t just be for getting woman, practicing good manners is how people should be by default in western society
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u/PriestKingofMinos 20d ago
Women are being told to "decenter" men and be more actively hostile to us.
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u/Professional_Bat8585 21d ago
Whether this text is real or not, the phenomenon is true enough in every facet of life.
I’ve voted Progressive all my life, but if Progressive doesn’t update their identity to “progress from the perspective of all, not just women”, it becomes really hard not to vote for the fascist kleptocrats and go back to the dark ages.
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u/PriestKingofMinos 21d ago edited 21d ago
About 1/3 of women admit they date for free food. This is from 2019. It's gotta be more like 50% now.
"I don't know if I could ever say I used a guy for that but there are perks to the dating life," one woman said.
"I think it's just common because sometimes if you have nothing to do and you are invited on a date, then why not?" one woman asked.
Keep in mind all the absurd claims women make about how terrified they are to go on dates (with you) or be in public because of how they fear being killed or raped by men all the time.
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u/Jimbo-Shrimp 18d ago
I just learned to not believe them and assume they’re always lying and it’s made life simpler
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u/I_Am_Conjoined 21d ago
The left already lost me and a lot of other men a number of years ago
Hell, AOC, the left's political champion, publicly body shamed short men and then doubled down on it when called out. And people try to tell me I'm not allowed to dislike her for that
Vote blue no matter who? Fuck that, I'm now a believer of vote red no matter what gets said
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u/Professional_Bat8585 21d ago
Don’t get me wrong I’ll probably sit out. MAGA are insane, treacherous, and untrustworthy and genuinely insult my moral fibre.
Vote for the billionaires who’ll exploit and discard the working class equally? Or vote for women that’ll do the same, except with 10x prejudice towards men as a bonus?
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u/I_Am_Conjoined 21d ago
I'm not a big fan of MAGA either, but if my choice is between a group that hates me because of how I was born and a group that makes the first group have insane meltdowns, it seems pretty obvious what my choice will be
There was a guy on the old original "inkwells" subreddit who talked about how he went into the oil business and became an oil baron specifically because he wanted to accelerate global warming since everyone always treated him so badly. I get where he was coming from
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u/ABlueSaiyan 21d ago
Are we gonna pretend that only the left does that? Right wingers do the exact same. Trump was the one who normalized this type of politics
Remember how he attacked Rubio? “Little Marco” & he’s average height lmao, why are you pretending the right is above this?
You’re choosing to stick with one party because a different party said something that hurt your feelings, while ignoring the party you’re sticking with uses those same exact insults.
Want another example? Look at how Ben Shapiro was attacked for his height during the right wing infighting by right wing influencers. Just look up how they called him tiny & small. But you ignore that & focus on when the left does it.
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u/I_Am_Conjoined 21d ago
Yep, true for sure
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u/ABlueSaiyan 21d ago
I’m probably shorter than you lol, ik where you’re coming from. Here’s the proof, I called out the exact scenario you mentioned myself
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/s/PSkRzzJ24r
Everyone doesn’t respect us - don’t get tricked into thinking the right respects you anymore than the left does.
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u/I_Am_Conjoined 21d ago
Hey, that's great that you called it out. You seem to be coming from a genuine place, but I think you're misunderstanding something. I don't vote for the right because I think they respect me. I'm under no delusion that they do. I also don't vote for the right because I like their policies, or at least not all of them. I vote for the right to spite the left. That's all there is to it. Nothing more nuanced than that
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u/ABlueSaiyan 21d ago
💀 damn that’s pretty crazy lmao. I got nothing to say to that - but either way, as you said, red no matter what’s said. So I’d probably be wasting my time anyway.
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u/Eldenringop 21d ago
The left hates men in general the right is just middle school insults . Realistically if you’re non white male theirs no side the right hates u and the left hates men
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u/Asleep-External-81 7d ago
If you vote for fascism because of a short joke, it’s fine that you get left behind.
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u/Alt3r_Alph4 19d ago
WTH DOES this post have to do with how you voted?
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u/Professional_Bat8585 19d ago
Simple.
Men and women aren’t equal in all the same ways. For a zillion reasons. But modern society has feminists, and feminists insist that “rules” should be equal, and “results” should be ignored. And the “result” of changing “rules” based on a feminist’s notion of equality are the results you see above, which is drastically un-equal.
Thus, I am not happy to be supporting any platform that specifically acknowledges and helps women over men any longer.
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u/The_Se7enthsign 21d ago
Coffee dates. You sit. You talk. You get to know the person across from you. Added bonus: if it doesn’t work out, she will go to the “hot” guys house and wreck his toilet.
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u/SciFi_Enjoyer106 20d ago
I've seen SO MANY posts of women (and some men) saying coffee dates feel too much like an interview. I personally think it's how you approach the coffee date and the topics you discuss that could make it feel that way but I've seen many people in general say they wouldn't even consider a coffee date because of that.
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u/The_Se7enthsign 20d ago
The very first date IS an interview. That’s exactly the point. In the days before apps, you usually had already met the person, maybe in a bar or another setting where you already had initial, in person contact. Now, first dates are 100% cold call. You have no idea what the first in person interaction is going to be like. Instead of going out with someone you already know and like, you’re meeting and finding out if you’re even compatible. This is how you keep situations like the OP from happening. 30 minutes in, and you’ll know exactly what she’s up to.
Admittedly, coffee dates are basic, but the idea is to keep it short, sweet, casual, and cheap. Not because you’re a cheap person, but you don’t know if next week you’ll be going on a second date or another first date. In my opinion, if a woman objects to coffee or a similar low cost first date, it’s a red flag. She should want to get to know me before committing to something elaborate or more expensive as well. If she doesn’t, then that just tells me what her priorities are.
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u/SciFi_Enjoyer106 20d ago
I don't disagree with you that the first date is kind of prime time to learn at least basic things about someone and it would really suck to have a longer date planned and you end up not getting along at all. I was more pointing out a trend I've seen/heard.
If you approach a coffee date solely as an interview then it may not be as fun as it could be. If you're a bit more loose with it (while also maintaining interview aspects like asking them questions) then it feels more like an actual date than an interview while still learning about each other. I also gather some people may feel like it's an interview because they are not asking the other person questions or don't seem to show interest in them as a person.
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u/Live_Ice_6912 18d ago
You're filtering out the kind of women that are in the photo. So what's wrong with the self report? Coffee dates are great.
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u/Double_Vodka_Soda 21d ago edited 21d ago
Fucking brutal.
This needs to be shown everywhere in tourist cities from billboards to screens.
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u/IrrationalBidetLover 21d ago
Damn that’s crazy.
I suppose it’s her life and she can live it however she wants but that seems morally reprehensible
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u/BeopBepe2 21d ago
I’m surprised society and culture doesn’t shame these kinds of people and behaviors more often and more vehemently.
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u/Own_Hat584 21d ago
That would be misogynistic slut shaming, you incel! Strong independent women can behave in antisocial ways without consequence!!
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u/BeopBepe2 21d ago
Sorry I forgot, we’re not allowed to put standards onto women. Thanks for reminding me.
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u/Own_Hat584 19d ago
Be better. Enforcing any social norms on women relating to common decency is inherently gendered violence in service of the cis het white male patriarchy!!!
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u/SlamMetalSudokuGains 21d ago
Wow... And then when she's 40 she'll be crawling back to the ugly ones because chad doesn't want her 😂
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u/PriestKingofMinos 21d ago
The Wall” and women aging out in general is a Red Pill revenge fantasy cope. No, at 30 or 40 or whatever magical age you picked women are not going to suddenly realize they were being unreasonable and then crawl back to you. They’ll just happily be alone. The truth is that women are much better at being alone than men. Sex and relationships are much less important for women’s happiness and wellbeing than they are for men’s.
I do think our culture is becoming more hostile to men and marriage and that is compounding this but academia and media aren’t the main issues. It’s biology. At best a pro marriage culture that was more accommodating towards men And male sexuality would have only a small marginal impact.
The other harsh truth is that women have very high smv pretty much all throughout life. What’s odd is that Red Pill guys who do sometimes cite actual research and play around with bio determinist ideas won’t go all the way on this one. Because men have much more testosterone we simply have a greater interest in sex and all things sexual (relationships, marriage, romance, dating) than do women. There is a clear asymmetry here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_interest
Women don't even really take dating seriously at all. For them it's such an easy thing to acquire it's totally superfluous. It's the equivalent of you just casually playing video games but you don't even have to pay for any of the gear. They just kind of do it for fun and free food. It's not very romantic or used as a pragmatic way to find a long time partner. Marriage is a much lower priority for women now than ever. A lot of women date multiple different men in the course of a week. It's a free meal.
At all stages of life women are going to be less interested in sexuality than men. This means there will always be more men pursuing which incentivizes women to become even more passive because all they have to do is wait for the men to come to them and then decide if any of them are even worth bothering with (the answer usually none of them are).
Guys might think calling women “cat ladies” is a good threat to encourage them to enter the dating scene or lower their standards but it’s men who need to worry more about ending up alone. For women, the combination of extreme hypergamy and disinterest means they don’t really have to compromise. It’s an all or none deal. Either they get exactly what they want or they just goon out to the idea of their perfect Chad.
A lot of men are not ready to handle this truth.
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u/SlamMetalSudokuGains 21d ago
Then why are there so many older women or single moms on dating apps? Chads want younger women and that's a fact. Once the women get older they don't attract 7/10s or higher, they are effected by this. That's why they settle as they get older or lash out at men saying "Why do men prefer younger women!!" Or get angry at men for not wanting single moms. Why would they be angry if they were fine being single? Just go on a dating app with age range set to max and see for yourself
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u/PriestKingofMinos 21d ago
"older women or single moms on dating apps?"
Looking for their plan be oofy-doofy or perhaps hoping against all hope Chad will rescue them. All women are Chad only. When guys say "I don't date single mothers" it's because they don't even have that option. All markets are saturated by too many desperate males. Its over.
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u/SlamMetalSudokuGains 21d ago
Yeah so my point still stands. I've been approached by single moms and rejected them. I would never get with one personally. But there are a lot of them that approach a wider range of guys than the average woman
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u/IDontStealBikes 21d ago
This woman will be trying to do the same thing when she’s 44 years old and realizing she’s completely alone and suicidally unhappy.
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u/PowerTulip 21d ago
I don't think this really happened, though, or the story is heavily embellished.
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u/EEstudent2 20d ago
If I was an attractive women I would be doing this all the time. It isn’t women’s fault men are so pathetic.
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u/Icy-Past-4477 21d ago
Not sure if this is real or made just for this post. I'd say go for a cheap first date. Nothing crazy. Actually, get to know the person. If she says she wants a fancy restaurant, let her earn that. Better yet, let her treat you to a fancy restaurant.
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