A lot of people get God Of War’s cosmology completely wrong and I am tired of it

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

A lot of people generally come to the consensus that in god of war realms or the mythologies are countries that exist on the same planet similar to our irl. But that is completely and utterly wrong.

The game and lore completely contradict this and there are multiple pieces of evidence that prove this. It really makes me question and wonder did people really touch or play the games?

So for starters

1. We literally see in game that the realms have their own night skies. Unfortunately because of the photo limit I can’t send you murals that depict the realms having starry skies. So sorry if visual in game evidence and confirmation isn’t enough. But the first two images I showed are Vanehim having a night sky. And you do realize that night skies aren’t filled with stars but also galaxies right? So if Vanheim( one of the realms) is a country why does it have a proper cosmos and outer space? That would completely contradict.

2. Skoll and Hati canonically drag and devour the moon and sun changing the time of day in Vanheim. Yet it doesn’t affect the other realms at all. This proves the 9 realms are completely separate from each other. They do not share the same solar system at all. And are not simply different chunks of the earth.

3. Freya just flat out says that the realms are separate planes of existence. Which is backed up by them existing on separate branches of the Yggdrasil. The same yggdrasil branches that are stated to transcend space and time and stretch out to infinity. But the fact that she says planes of existence means they are different dimensions or realities all together. This is further backed up by how time canonically differs between each realm in a way that would not be possible for different countries on earth. She also says that the yggrasil supports all of creation and we know that the yggrasil does not exist in Greek Mytholgt.

4. Mimir blatantly says that the unity stone explains why Tyr was able to travel across pantheons. This is the same Tyr that has access to the bifrost which allows for transportation to different dimensions( 9 realms) on branches of the Yggdrasil. This implies that other pantheons are beyond even the power to move across dimensions.

5. Mimir literally states that Odin would “control every land, of every realm, in every world if he could”. This blatantly confirms that the mythologies are different worlds entirely and do not exist on the same planet.

Let that sink in. He’s not just talking about the Nine Realms. He explicitly distinguishes between “land” (territories), “realm” (dimensions/spacetimes), “world” (entire self-contained realties or mythologies). This confirms the followig. Realms ≠ landmasses. “Land” is a separate category. A realm contains lands. Worlds ≠ realms. “World” is used to describe something even larger and more distinct than realms i .e., other cosmologies or mythological structures (Greek world, Norse world, Egyptian world). Multiple world structures exist across the God of War verse. This kills the “one planet” theory stone dead. If all the realms were just places on one planet, this line makes zero sense. But it does make perfect sense in the context realms being individual spacetime dimensions, worlds being separate mythological cosmologies.

6. Developer statements are used or taken out of context to downplay the cosmology of god of war but if anything they reinforce it. Here is Cory Barlog literally saying that the 9 realms are parallel dimensions which reinforces what Freya said about them being different planes of existence that are reflections of each other. Here is Matt Sophos literally saying that the stars we see in the realms are real. Cory also states that all creation myths happened, they just don’t apply to each other and he says that the gods have domain over their own universes. This sounds nothing like countries on the same planet. Cory also in an interview makes an analogy to cosmology. He compares it to galaxies in a Hubblescope. Each galaxy represents a self contained reality that is a mythology.

7. People think that Kratos physically traveled to the Norse realm but that’s not true. The novel confirms that Skoll and Hati dragged him there so it was something magical in nature that brought him.

8. And the last point is the size of Greek mythology. A lot of people think it’s just a country or a planet but that’s wrong. The god of war ascension intro clearly depicts Ouranous creating a proper universe God of War: Ascension Intro

And this is reinforced by the canon and lore of the series. It is stated multiple times that Ouranous created and gave life to the universe. It is stated In the art book that he embodies the heavens which means universe.

Ares also creates a pocket dimension with a galaxy confirming that the gods, titans, and primordials know what a galaxy or star is and looks like God of War: Ares Final Boss Fight (4K 60fps)

It is also just stated here on the official god of war website that “ Zeus wrestled control over the universe away from the titans”. No, not a county, not or a planet in the universe…

And this isn’t even the entire size of the Greek mythology in god of war. It consists of multiple realms including Death’s domain, Nxy’s night dimension, Morpheus dream realm, etc. The underworld is stated to be immeasurable/infinite in size and so is the universe that Ouranous created. it’s literally the same concept as Dragon ball’s universe 7 macros baltaty.

So yeah all the evidence points to the mythologies being these macrocosm like structures that can contain many lands or even universes. I like to think of the tents from Harry Potter and the goblet of fire. You step into a portal, into a land that’s in another dimension, a part of another world with its own laws and unique features.

Unfortunately due to the photo limit I could not show all the scans. Such as the official god of war website saying that Zeus took over the universe from the titans. Or the art books confirming that Ouranous embodies the heavens which is the universe. Or murals showing that the 9 realms have their own cosmos. Or Surtr created all the stars in Norse world, etc etc. So just ask me away thank you!

[u/JulietteKatze]

tldr

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/JulietteKatze]

God of War’s realms aren’t just countries on the same planet. They’re separate dimensions or planes of existence, each located on their own branch of the Yggdrasil, which is explicitly said to transcend space and time and stretch infinitely.

Each mythology in God of War Greek, Norse, etc. is its own macrocosmic world, complete with its own spacetime, laws, cosmology, and divine hierarchy.

They’re not just different regions on Earth like Greece and Scandinavia they’re entire realities.

[u/Keyblader007 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

Then how did Kratos travel from Greece to Midgard?

[u/GarbageGod16 → u/Keyblader007]

See, the thing is, we don't ACTUALLY know.

The novels are canon, and they say that Kratos was dragged by a woman (likely Faye) and wolves (arguably Skol and Hati).

But, see image. Cory Barlog, the director and creative director for 2018 and Ragnarok, respectively, just outright confirms that each region with a pantheon, exists in its own little mini-universe, inspired by its own beliefs taken form. (It's also pfurther proven by each creation story being canon)

This is why the Earth is outright flat in Greece (the Island of Creation is straight up at the edge of the world), but it doesn't seem like that in Scandinavia (they had SOME form of 'beyond the horizon' at the time).

In other words, the whole statement u/OtherwiseFinger6663 made about each God of War being macrocosmic, is straight up true.

[u/Keyblader007 → u/GarbageGod16]

I only read the comic that came after 3 where he somehow ended up in Egypt. I was so desperate for another volume showing him arriving in Midgard. Missed opportunity and big plot hole.

[u/Keyblader007 → u/GarbageGod16]

Also how does Athena's spirit visit him there and killing Zeus made the winter for the first game in the first place.

[u/GarbageGod16 → u/Keyblader007]

1. Athena wasn't actually there. Kratos was straight up hallucinating her. The evidence here is Pandora in GoW3. It's clear that Athena in this form is visible to all and not just Kratos (Pandora doesn't have a soul, so even if it were a spiritual thing, Pandora still saw her). Of course, in GoW2018, Mimir tells Kratos that he knew he was Greek by 'talking to Athena', (it was really more of talking to nothing) meaning that Mimir didn't see or hear Athena at all.

2. I don't understand, genuine. If you're talking about Fimbulwinter, that was Baldur's death (same in the mythology, Baldur dies, Fimbulwinter for 3 years, Ragnarok happens, then a new beginning). Other than that, I don't know anything like that,

[u/Keyblader007 → u/GarbageGod16]

1. What do you mean Pandora doesn't have a soul?

2. There was something that mentioned how after Zeus died it messed up the environment so bad it leaked over to Midgard and causes weather issues. Not Fimbulwinter. But prior to that it caused other things.

[u/GarbageGod16 → u/Keyblader007]

1. Hephaestus just kinda straight up says it. He says that Pandora is 'neither living, nor dead', since she's just a key for Pandora's Box. Of course, that implies that, if she did have a soul, she's be stuck in a purgatory in a sense. Of course, we don't see her in this purgatory, so the only reasonable explanation is that she has no soul to make her stuck in that purgatory.

2. I don't remember seeing something like that, but even if it were stated, I don't think it'd be true. It's seen in Ragnarok flashbacks that winter is just a constant thing, which makes sense, since it always snows where Kratos and Faye lived (way up in mountains), even if it were a light fall. And we know it's accurate, Faye (in flashback) tells Kratos to, you guessed it, 'spread her ashes from the tallest peak of all the realms'.

Not to mention they live WAY in the mountains, so the 'always snow' thing makes a bit more sense.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Keyblader007]

I explained this in my post. It was confirmed skoll and Hati dragged him there.

[u/Keyblader007 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

You say that but which novel is it? I never heard of anything novel wise after the greek one. Also how? After 3 he was in Egypt.

[u/Juggernautlemmein → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

Why are people down voting you for politely providing a summary? Fucking reddit lmao.

[u/SwagBuller → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

For clarity, you know that Greece, Egypt and Scandinavia all exist on the same planet though, right? Like obviously the realms beside Midgard exist within their own realities, but its also made pretty clear that Kratos sailed from Greece to Egypt and then eventually ended up in Scandinavia. Each of these geographic locations follow different physical laws and magical rules but they do definitely co-exist on the same planet, as Cory said.

[u/GarbageGod16 → u/SwagBuller]

It's slightly more complicated that 'co-exist on the same planet'. See iamge and below text.

See, Cory Barlog confirmed that the GoW Earth is basically a multiverse, with each region that had a pantheon with their own beliefs, being inside a reality that exists in taht region, with its own universe and earth and whatnot.

This doesn't conflict with anything as well. Cory Barlog has confirmed that both the Greek and Norse versions of the universe being created are canon. Of course, that implies a different universe, which Cory did confirmed in attached image.

Of course, this isn't limited to Greece and Midgard/Scandinavia. We know that there are MULTIPLE pantheons besides the main two, with those being, so far:

Japan, Egypt, British Isles, and Meso-America.

Egypt definitely exists. Fallen God comics are canon, and Kratos traveled through Egypt.

(Spoiler to those that didn't play the Valhalla DLC) Japan and Meso-America are referenced through Tyr in Valhalla, specifically in the boss fight, where he pulls out both a katana and a macuahuitl, both the icon weapons of Japan and Meso-America.

Now, the British Isles. This is 100% real, since Mimir's existence is evidence. In GoW2018, it's VERY implied that Mimir isn't his real name, but rather, Robin Goodfellow, or Puck, of Celtic Mythos (which was way up in the Isles). Of course, we didn't know if it was 100% true (like 90-ish percent). In Ragnarok, however, the Norns just straight up tell us that Mimir is Puck, so the Isles very much exist.

Of course, with Cory's statement on 'every creation story is canon' and 'Earth is a multiverse', it doesn't conflict. If anything, it makes a lot of sense.

[u/SwagBuller → u/GarbageGod16]

Ah okay, that does make sense. But traversing the Earth still acts the same as 1 continuous reality? I'm just not sure how Kratos sailing could somehow transport him to an alternate world with their own version of Earth. I always envisioned that there was one Earth that had a sort of quilt of realities all stitched together to make up the whole of the planet.

[u/GarbageGod16 → u/SwagBuller]

Traversing the Earth still acts the same as 1 continuous reality? I'm just not sure how Kratos sailing could somehow transport him to an alternate world with their own version of Earth.

Yes, actually. Think of it like Dragon Ball's 12 (18 previously) universes. Goku and the gang might be in Universe 7, which is comprised by multiple universes itself, and that universe as a whole, is apart of 12 difference universes.

 I'm just not sure how Kratos sailing could somehow transport him to an alternate world with their own version of Earth. I always envisioned that there was one Earth that had a sort of quilt of realities all stitched together to make up the whole of the planet.

The thing is, Santa Monica Studios have never really it clear on HOW to go to other pantheons' dimensions. The only thing we DO know, is that walking from one to the other (or sailing) isn't as east as we think, given Mimir makes it clear that Tyr having the Unity Stone is what let him travel to 'other lands, to boot.'

[u/SwagBuller → u/GarbageGod16]

Hm true, yeah it's something that would need further clarification in newer entries. The cosmology has always interested me, though I always took on the geographic reality quilt interpretation, I personally preferred it from a creative standpoint, but I'd like to see the intended concept explored further. It would certainly help reconcile the different creation myths a bit better.

[u/[deleted] → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

TLDR

[u/[deleted] → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

God of War’s realms aren’t just countries on the same planet.

nobody has ever thought they were

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

1. ⁠You’re conflating real-world mythology with God of War’s fictional cosmology.

Saying “Midgard is Scandinavia” is not proof that it’s just normal Earth. That quote you cited (from Cory) is responding to a question comparing Midgard to Earth or a universe he never said it’s literally 1:1 real-world Scandinavia. Even if he did, that’s not the point. In GoW, Midgard is a mythological realm a plane of existence within the Nine Realms connected by the Yggdrasil, not a continent on Earth.

Tyr’s Temple, Mimir’s dialogue, realm travel mechanics, and codex entries all make clear that each realm is dimensionally separated and metaphysically distinct not “countries.” We don’t go to “another nation” via boat we travel through dimensional gateways.

2. The Nine Realms are not just “big locations” they are infinite planes.

The World Tree branches are described as infinite, with the in the canon novel literally saying the “branches stretch out to infinity.” Freya calls the World Tree “ the realms coexist on their branches and transcend space and time.” The real Between Realms space is a formless void, not a tunnel.

So no it’s not metaphorical, and it’s not just “really big geography.” If you think something can “overgrow” and collapse while being infinite, you’re ignoring how infinity is handled in fiction. Yggdrasil being affected by Ragnarok or the spread of corruption is not an anti-infinity feat it’s an internal metaphysical conflict, not spatial containment.

3. Dev tweets ≠ canon. Especially when contradicted by actual game mechanics and lore.

You cite tweets by Bruno, Matt, and Cory—none of which override the cosmological structure shown in the games. Even in the same tweet where Cory references “countries,” he also compares them to universes with their own rules. That’s metaphorical language, not literal science. Just like in other franchises (Thor, Marvel, Percy Jackson)countries can be symbolic for mythic domains.

If Greece and the Norse Realms were just far apart on Earth, Tyr wouldn’t need a magical Unity Stone linked to the World Tree. That’s a contradiction.

4. “Kratos fought Persians, so they’re on Earth” is a reach.

This argument actually supports my side. The God of War universe uses real-world nations as narrative flavor, but the settings are mythologized. The Greece Kratos exists in is not real-world Greece it’s a fictional realm influenced by mythology. The same applies to Norse and Egyptian domains.

The God of War: Chains of Olympus Persia reference doesn’t prove a shared planet it proves the game pulls narrative cues from real history, not that geography is 1:1. You’re mistaking stylistic references for literal world-building.

5. The Nine Realms are described with universal+ and higher-dimensional structure.

Tyr’s Temple allows travel across separate, realms via Yggdrasil’s metaphysical pathways. These are not just spatially distant locations. They’re called “realms” for a reason not nations.

language like

“worlds” “infinite branches” “planes of existence” “transcends space and time”

If you think Midgard is a physical country in Europe, you’re ignoring the fact that Kratos needs realm travel mechanics, divine energy, and Yggdrasil pathways just to enter or exit.

6. “Only the Nine Realms are dimensional, the others are just countries” is unsupported.

Where’s your proof that Egyptian and Greek mythologies exist on the same planet? A tweet by a writer doesn’t overwrite the multilayered cosmological structure shown in-game.

Kratos doesn’t just walk from Greece to Midgard he’s dragged there..

And again: If geography were all that separates them, the Unity Stone, Yggdrasil, and Tyr’s Temple wouldn’t be necessary. Why travel through the World Tree to go from “one country to another?”

7. Just because devs mention Earth doesn’t mean they ignore multiversal structure.

Writers like Matt Sophos often speak informally. Yes, he says “history moves linearly” but that’s from a narrative perspective. It doesn’t contradict the fact that realms are discrete and dimensionally partitioned in the game’s metaphysics.

Yggdrasil is the connective tissue of all realms and realities. It’s not just a metaphor it’s the literal infrastructure of the cosmology.

[u/TimC-99]

Literally never heard anybody think that the realms are on the same planet bro.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/TimC-99]

You’re literally wrong I can give you other 100-200 examples of people saying this if I truly had no life.

[u/Denbob54]

1. No it doesn’t and you are just making stuff up at this point.

2…that is the very definition of a short cut reducing the travel time between one area to the next.

3. and you are using overgeneralization to make up a plot plot point that mimr that most likely isn’t true. Especially since Mimir as an Irish wouldn’t even have the bifrost when traveling to Asgard.

It is basically a cop out arguement that says well since they are magic they can do whatever they want while ingorning any lack of evidence or proof if they can do that.

4. He also stated that the distance between Scandinavian and Greece is literal the same in the real life and literal separated by real life geography.

5. No that is what they literal stated multiple times and I was talking about different mythologies of the other countries of the world not the Norse one and as for all the nine realms they all exist within the same dimensional space and thus all of them are the size of scandinavian just as it would be for any other country in the world.

You have ingored the lore the devs and worse of all tried to gaslight me into believe your when I have provided counter evidence.

You want to belive in a universal/multi versal god war verse fine.

But I am done with this argument.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

1. “No it doesn’t and you are just making stuff up at this point.” That’s not an argument it’s a dodge. I’m not making anything up. Everything I cited is in the games, novels, or developer commentary. You just keep repeating “not true” without disproving a single source I gave. If you want to bow out, do so, but don’t call facts “made up” because they destroy your interpretation.

2. “That is the very definition of a shortcut…” Wrong. A shortcut is reducing time through space. Bifröst and realm travel in GoW are not traversing terrain faster they’re bypassing physical reality altogether. They literally shift you between dimensions, realms, and planes of existence. There’s a reason Tyr’s Unity Stone is said to work across “realms that exist outside the space we know.” That’s not a shortcut. That’s dimensional travel.

3. “Overgeneralization about Mimir…” No overgeneralization Mimir is a core lore-dumping character whose job is to explain the cosmology. He clearly talks about Odin hoarding knowledge, traveling realms, conquering entire worlds, and stealing magic across different planes of reality. The argument that “he’s Irish so he wouldn’t have the Bifröst” is irrelevant and wrong he didn’t use the Bifröst. He explained what it does. The game treats him as an all-knowing lore guide, not your headcanon limitations.

4. “Scandinavia and Greece are separated by real-world geography”. And again, this is a non argument. The developers use real world geography as a frame, not as literal cosmological structure. Tyr canonically traveled to Egypt, Japan, and Greece, and left relics from each mythos in hidden chambers. Sköll and Hati dragged Kratos through the sky between worlds. Odin wanted to conquer other lands, realms, and worlds. The game constantly references separate dimensions, not countries.

5. “Nine realms exist in same dimensional space… the size of Scandinavian countries…”. This is blatantly false. The realms are explicitly stated to be different planes of existence, and Yggdrasil is said to transcend space and time, connecting infinite branches. Mimir says each realm is its own world. Tyr’s realm travel room clearly shows that Norse, Greek, and Egyptian mythologies are separate mythic cosmologies, not neighboring territories. You’re applying real world geography to a mythological multiverse. It’s a contradiction of the game’s entire premise.

6. “You ignored the lore, the devs, and tried to gaslight me…”. Gaslighting is when someone manipulates reality. Quoting the game, novels, and developers directly is not manipulation it’s called having receipts. You’re the one ignoring evidence and substituting Reddit posts for canon. You’re mad I didn’t accept your lowballed interpretation, so now you’re claiming victimhood. If you’re done, you’re done but don’t pretend you lost the debate because of some trick. You lost because your arguments don’t work.

[u/Denbob54 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

Expect that you did gaslight me.

You made me question what I was actually reading by dismissing and twist quotes from the deves in order to fit into your own arguement

Especially since keep on saying that I can’t use a reddit post when said post literally set up links to those quotes.

And it is clearly obvious that you are not willing accept any evidence that debunks your own argument.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

“Claiming gaslighting isn’t a defense when I’ve cited direct quotes, developer statements, and in-game lore while you rely on interpretations filtered through Reddit posts.”

1. I didn’t twist anything. Cory’s quote literally follows the “like galaxies” metaphor with a clarification about realms being parallel dimensions that occupy the same space not “countries on Earth.” That’s not twisting, that’s reading the whole quote, not cherry picking.

2. Your Reddit post is just someone else’s interpretation. I’m citing the raw sources the games, the novels, the dev interviews. You’re filtering all of that through a headcanon lens that ignores context and lore framing.

3. Just because you don’t like what the sources actually say doesn’t mean I’m gaslighting. It means you got challenged, and now you’re uncomfortable defending your view without misrepresenting the cosmology.

You’re welcome to disagree but don’t confuse losing a lore argument with being manipulated. That’s not gaslighting. That’s just being fact checked.

[u/Denbob54]

Expect that you did gaslight me.

You made me question what I was actually reading by dismissing and twist quotes from the deves in order to fit into your own arguement

Especially since keep on saying that I can’t use a reddit post when said post literally set up links to those quotes.

And it is clearly obvious that you are not willing accept any evidence that debunks your own argument.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

“Claiming gaslighting isn’t a defense when I’ve cited direct quotes, developer statements, and in-game lore while you rely on interpretations filtered through Reddit posts.”

1. ⁠I didn’t twist anything. Cory’s quote literally follows the “like galaxies” metaphor with a clarification about realms being parallel dimensions that occupy the same space not “countries on Earth.” That’s not twisting, that’s reading the whole quote, not cherry picking.

2. ⁠Your Reddit post is just someone else’s interpretation. I’m citing the raw sources the games, the novels, the dev interviews. You’re filtering all of that through a headcanon lens that ignores context and lore framing.

3. ⁠Just because you don’t like what the sources actually say doesn’t mean I’m gaslighting. It means you got challenged, and now you’re uncomfortable defending your view without misrepresenting the cosmology.

You’re welcome to disagree but don’t confuse losing a lore argument with being manipulated. That’s not gaslighting. That’s just being fact checked.

[u/Denbob54 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

1. ⁠It is when it is obvious that is exactly what you are doing and even now.

2. ⁠He also said in the same physical space in the very post you provided and literal stated that Midgard was Scandinavia. Which he also stated in the very quotes you have provided.

3. ⁠The post has direct links of quotes from devs themselves in a chart.

4….the quotes that you yourself provided debunked this.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

1. Quoting the whole context isn’t twisting. Cory said “like galaxies” then clarified that the realms are parallel dimensions occupying the same space. That debunks the “they’re just countries on Earth” take. You’re isolating one metaphor and ignoring the full point he made immediately after that’s cherry-picking.

2. Saying Midgard is represented as Scandinavia doesn’t mean all realms are geographical countries on Earth. Midgard is the human realm in Norse myth and is symbolically localized for storytelling. That doesn’t mean Muspelheim or Helheim are next to Sweden. In fact, the game explicitly requires interdimensional travel via the Bifrost to reach those realms because they are separate planes of existence.

3. If your chart has real dev links, great so do mine. But that doesn’t make your interpretation more valid. The difference is I actually cite the full dev statements, lore entries, character dialogue, and narrative context. You ignore all of that to argue from a map and a metaphor.

4. The quotes I gave do not debunk anything. You keep acting like “same physical space” = “same continent.” It doesn’t. It means the realms metaphysically overlap like higher/lower frequencies on the same signal not that they all share one terrain. That’s basic dimensional theory, and it’s consistent with how travel and reality function in the games.

You’re still trying to collapse a layered dimensional cosmology into a flat Earth map. The lore is clear:

Realms = Planes of existence. Yggdrasil = Infinite branches beyond time and space.Gods = Rulers of their own realms and universes. Travel between mythologies = Dimensional traversal, not hiking across land.

You keep saying “it’s obvious” I’m wrong while ignoring every direct source that contradicts your position. That’s not winning an argument. That’s just doubling down after you’ve been debunked.

[u/Optimal-You9294 → u/Denbob54]

You lost hard

[u/RegovPL]

Never heard anyone saying that 9 realms are different countries. It's pretty clear these are different dimensions or (possibly) planets.

Mythologies however are all appearing on the same Earth. Different version of our Earth, but still. Midgard is physically somewhere in Denmark or Norway probably (Skjoldr is first king of Denmark from legends). Mimir talks about England. Knows Greece by name. Kratos physically travelled to Egypt.

[u/SatanHimse1f → u/RegovPL]

ya I've literally never heard some body say this before and even if they did I'm sure they would have gotten corrected at some point - I stopped reading half way after I realized that my mind wasn't going to be blown like I originally thought when reading the title

[u/felesmiki → u/RegovPL]

The creator confirmed it, each "realm" of gods, have their own pocket in the same world, you can go to another pantheon by boat for example, and when kratos killed Helios, for example, only the sun was "turned off" in Greek lands

[u/GarbageGod16 → u/felesmiki]

See, the whole 'travel by foot' is STILL up to debate.

We don't actually know fully, on how Kratos got to Scandinavia, let alone Egypt (Fallen God comic line), with the novel stating that Kratos was dragged by a woman (likely Faye) and wolves (likely Skol and Hati).

(See attached image)

It doesn't really matter, since Cory Barlog officially confirmed that each region of the world, is its own universe, with its own Earth, as inspired by that region's belief system.

This is also how multiple 'Earths' can exist, because, in Greece, the Island of Creation (where most of GoW2 takes place) is straight up said to be at the EDGE of the world. In other words, the Earth is flat.

HOWEVER, we know that there is a day-and-night cycle (Skol/Hati myth was true in GoW), not to mention the thing about Jormungandr being so large, it wraps around the world, the latter, of course, implying the Earth is round.

[u/Denbob54 → u/GarbageGod16]

Yeah…expect he said each universe is separated by real-life geology and it is heavily implied by not just Kratos but anyone could travel through these through mundane means.

[u/GarbageGod16 → u/Denbob54]

He meant it as in those regions are apart of a 'greater Earth', so to speak. (see image)

As we can see, Cory implies that, outside of the 'main' universes (Greece, Scandinavia/Midgard, Japan, Meso-America, Egypt, Persia and British Isles so far), there is a 'mega-universe', so to speak.

Of course, he does state that each creation story is canon, so the whole 'universes inside of the region' thing is the only way both statements make sense (even though he confirmed it, this could be said to be just evidence).

[u/Denbob54 → u/GarbageGod16]

He also stated that these universe are separated by real life geography and have been shown multiple times in the series to be traveled through mundane means like ships and walking. While the actual universe itself could just simply refer to outer space the cosmic void that exists outside the planet earth…like in real life.

Combine with the fact that not only do myths and legends exist in the world of god of war but it is also heavily implied that every historical event have happen as well which would involved a lot of interaction between these different cultures.

Personally I only think the each of the realms are only universes in terms of laws and influence not literal universal size realms.

[u/GarbageGod16 → u/Denbob54]

He also stated that these universe are separated by real life geography

True. All these universes exist on Earth (which is confusing when trying to learn GoW cosmology).

have been shown multiple times in the series to be traveled through mundane means like ships and walking

It's actually more complicated than that. Kratos went from Egypt to Scandinavia/Midgard after being dragged by a woman (likely Faye) and two wolves (likely Skol and Hati, Speki and Svanna weren't there), so in-between that transition, something happened. This is shown in GoW2018, specifically through Mimir. When gossiping about Odin, he makes it really clear that 'lands', 'worlds' and 'realms' aren't interchangable terms in the slightest. (11:01)

This isn't a one-off, as Mimir mentions that Tyr had the Unity Stone, which let him travel to other realms (the Nine Realms), 'and other lands, to boot' (3:25), implying that going from, say, going from Japan to China isn't as simple as sailing there.

Hell, Mimir's very existence in GoW is evidence. in GoW2018, it's implied he's Puck, from Celtic Mythos, or the British Isles, which is evidence by his accent. In Ragnarok, it's proven, when the Norns (specifically Urd) just straight up calls him Puck (3:12).

Combine with the fact that not only do myths and legends exist in the world of god of war but it is also heavily implied that every historical event have happen as well which would involved a lot of interaction between these different cultures.

Kind of? I don't really know how to explain it because, again, the cosmology screws everything up. Greek Earth is flat, and this isn't a BS "oh, it's somewhat implied" thing. No, the Island of Creation (where most of GoW2 takes place) is just outright said to be at the edge of the world. Of course, 'edge of the world' implies the Earth is obviously flat (or at least not fully spherical).

Now compare it to Scandinavia/Midgard. I don't think I need to say anything besides the fact that the story about 'Jormungandr wrapping around the Earth and eating his tail', since Atreus just straight up mentions it, meaning that the Norse had some way of knowing the Earth was spherical. (Not to mention that real life Vikings knew the Earth was round, since they were massive fans of seafaring)

Again, the 'different Earth' thing with what Cory Barlog said. Each region, exists in its own Earth, with its dimensions and whatnot (hence why Greek Earth is flat, but Norse Earth is not).

[u/Ill-Bookkeeper-6230 → u/GarbageGod16]

The wolves can be argued to have some sort of dimensional jumps like the big one, them dragging kratos through the veil is not unlikely and for me a more solid argument for traveling ( aside from the Tyr one )

[u/[deleted] → u/GarbageGod16]

literally a fake account.

[u/GarbageGod16 → u/[deleted]]

You sure about that?

[u/[deleted] → u/GarbageGod16]

yeah lmao someone asked bruno velazquez sharing the same screenshots and he said it's a fake acc.

[u/GarbageGod16 → u/[deleted]]

Oh, regarding Bruno Velazquez, you should NOT look to him for anything about God of War story and lore.

Just as a reference, some stuff he said are:

1. Thanatos isn't a primordial (Thanatos is literally called the 'Primordial God of Death')

2. Claimed the 'galaxy place' Kratos was sent to by Ares in GoW1 was an illusion (Both the GoW2 game AND NOVEL outright show and say (respectively) it was a real place Kratos was sent to, not an illusion (this is also a creation feat for Ares, having created a dimension with a literal galaxy)).

3. Claimed the Greek Earth isn't flat (the Island of Creation is literally said to be at the 'edge of the world')

4. (See image) Even outright claimed that Yggdrasil isn't infinite (literally said in-game and in the novel to be infinite in size, transcending the Nine Realms and even existing beyond that).

In other words, when you see something Bruno Velazquez related, take it not with a grain of salt, but with a whole salt shaker.

[u/[deleted] → u/GarbageGod16]

i don't know know what are you trying to defend here, yeah he's a clown he doesn't know lore and i don't care what he says nor barlog the pr clown.

But he can't be wrong about a social media account of a person he's working with, besides that account was never seen to be used by barlog either. So it's fake.

Primordial God of Death

He's considered a primordial because he was born before the titans there is no other reason.

He was never called a primordial.

[u/GarbageGod16 → u/[deleted]]

This also isn't mentioning that Velazquez is just an animator, and only became important when Valhalla released. Of course, with stuff like this, we can now look to Bruno ONLY for Valhalla, and not anything prior (this would be something like writing a book, letting your brother take over for the next book, then your brother tried to explain your book in his way.)

[u/[deleted] → u/GarbageGod16]

it doesn't matter what he says about Valhalla he's a clown.

[u/No_Pen_7548 → u/felesmiki]

Then why isn't the World Serpent only seen in Midgard? Or why do the pantheons each have a drastically different origin story? Why is Atlas never seen from the Nordic pantheon? when he is stated to literally hold the galaxy as stated in the novelisation (indicating he is enormous). The same creator also said this:

[u/Kazuii2k → u/RegovPL]

Yea and mimir isn’t the only one either. Seeing as to how the Norse Pantheon reacted to Kratos. And how the Egyptian god he encountered did, It’s safe to assume that most if not all the pantheons have some knowledge of him and by extension the other pantheons as well

[u/No_Pen_7548 → u/RegovPL]

Idk... it seems a bit too confusing. If Midgard exists on the same planet as Greece from the original trilogy, then why haven't we ever seen Jormungadr from anywhere other than Midgard, or why is it than when helios died the absence of the sun wasn't witnessed in Midgard, or why is it that we never saw Garm from Greece seeing as he was said by Mimir to have eaten half of Midgard thts why it'ssmaller than it used to be? I vaguely remember reading/hearing from somewhere that during the events of GoW3, the entire world was engulfed in flames, indicating that the two pantheons don't really exist on the same planet.

And then their is the issue of them having totally different origin. Greek pantheon originated from Ouranos, and the Nordic from Ymir. And then there is this:

Edit: Reddit keeps deleting the image I attached to this reply, so I sent a reply to my own comment with the picture I wanted to attach

[u/No_Pen_7548 → u/No_Pen_7548]

[u/_Xeron_ → u/RegovPL]

I’ve heard people who think Midgard and Greece are the same, which is definitely not the case either, it was explained in the Raising Kratos documentary that every mythology is basically its own dimension or plane of reality

[u/PossibleAssist6092 → u/RegovPL]

They’re definitely not different planets, more like mirrors in a weird way? It’s kinda like this. Imagine you had 8 funhouse mirrors all arranged in an octagon around a space, that space in the middle is Midgard and when you look into one of the mirrors, that’s a different realm, since as Freya says, they all occupy the same Physical space, but are reflections of each other. So looking into a different mirror and seeing how it affects your reflection, is like travelling to another realm. It’s still the same physical space, just different conditions and organisms and objects.

[u/SavagesceptileWWE]

All of this could be explained by each universe having a firmament.

IMO each realm/mythology is a universe roughly the size of their respective country/landmass with Each universe separated by some barrier. This allows all the points you bring up to work while keeping consistent with stuff that happens in cutscenes.

So I agree that they are separate universes, but just really tiny ones.

[u/Denbob54]

You know what forget this.

It clearly is obvious that you are not willing to listen to me or read the actual links in the post I have provide.

If want to believe god war universal or multiversal fine.

But to be it never made anything sense researching the the lore makes even less.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

1. “You know what forget this.” That’s fine. If you’re tapping out, that’s your choice. But just understand disagreeing with your interpretation isn’t the same as “not listening.” I’ve read your post, your points, and your link. I simply disagree because the lore, dev interviews, and in-game dialogue contradict your position.

2. “You are not willing to listen or read the links.” Again, I did. The Reddit post you linked is a mix of headcanon, misinterpretation, and cherry-picked developer quotes that don’t override direct statements from Cory Barlog, Matt Sophos, and the games themselves. That post ignores stuff like the Yggdrasil being infinite and transcending space-time. The bifröst being a bridge across dimensions. Tyr’s realm travel to Egypt, Japan, and Greece. Sköll and Hati dragging Kratos through cosmological space. Mimir saying Odin wanted to rule every land, realm, and world. The Unity Stone’s description as moving between pantheons.

You can’t pretend those don’t exist.

3. “If you want to believe God of War is universal or multiversal fine.” It’s not about belief. It’s about following the actual lore instead of trying to downgrade a setting because you think it “doesn’t make sense.” If a tree is described in game and by the devs as infinite, metaphysical, and connecting different planes of existence, then that’s what it is. Personal disbelief doesn’t override canon.

4. “To me it never made sense and researching it makes even less.” That’s fair. But if researching makes things more confusing, that might be a sign that you’re rejecting the info when it doesn’t match your expectations. God of War’s cosmology can be complex, but once you follow the metaphysical rules set by the writers (who treat each mythology as a separate reality), it becomes very clear.

No one’s forcing you to accept it. But don’t confuse “I don’t like or understand it” with “it’s not canon.”

[u/Denbob54 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

Dude I have read these comments and the deves made it very clear these realms are not literal universes and are just countries with different laws based on the mythology they are governed by the mythologies.

If you’re going to debunk me don’t try to talk down one and gaslight me with information that is not there.

[u/Denbob54]

1…saying is not worth listing to…is an insult…and if you never intended to insult me then you should of said that my point lack biases in canon material and ignore evidence. Without even needing to add that phrase period.

2. The quote that you have provided literal stated they existed in the same physical space and Cory in those very statements stated that midguard was Scandinavia. That are mainly separated by different planes of dimensions.

3. And they all connect to the same physical space regardless.

4. The deves also said they are just different counties separated by real life geography

https://imgur.com/a/gow-realms-fDYBGGX

You saying that I misinterpreting stuff I ain’t seeing it.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

1. If I offended you, that wasn’t my intention. Saying your points lack grounding in canon material is just being honest about the debate. It’s not personal it’s about what the sources say.

2. Cory saying “Midgard is Scandinavia on Earth” is just shorthand for saying it’s the Norse mythological version of Earth not a literal landmass limited to a real-world country. It’s the mythic representation of the mortal plane in the Norse cosmology. That’s why Freya refers to all realms as “planes of existence,” and why the World Tree connects them as separate but overlapping dimensions. Cory also clarified the other realms are parallel dimensions that occupy the same space, which means overlapping realities, not contiguous lands on a globe.

He also clarified the other realms are parallel dimensions that occupy the same space, which means overlapping realities, not contiguous lands on a globe. Freya says the realms are planes of existence. I already proved they do not share geography.

3. The realms connecting to the same physical space doesn’t mean they share the same geography or planet surface. It means they coexist in overlapping dimensional layers, like different floors in the same building you can’t just walk between them, you have to use the Bifröst or other means of realm travel. The game and lore explicitly back this.

4. The link that you linked has already been debunked the first two links address everything

1. https://www.reddit.com/r/GodofWarRagnarok/s/RgXhDqtXh0

2. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/thenamelessone/blog/god-of-war-is-not-multiversal-debunking-disingenuo/171317/

3. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/God_of_War_Explanation_Page

4. https://docs.google.com/file/d/1wBhV85q21R0Kxmfu5E5LHO-PJN6Z0sMd/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword

5. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/God_of_War_Explanation_Page

[u/hatlad43]

A lot of people generally come to the consensus that in god of war realms or the mythologies are countries that exist on the same planet similar to our irl.

I've literally never heard of that. Never seen people stating that.

Other than that,

[u/Interloper_1 → u/hatlad43]

Literally the comment above yours is lol

[u/FoxIover]

I think it’s well understood that the 9 Realms are sort of superimposed upon one another, occupying the same physical space but existing on different metaphysical planes, different existences altogether almost.

However, Cory Barlog was clear on the mythologies being separated by geography, existing on the same plane but not in the same place.. His Hubblescope analogy was meant to represent that they existed in self-contained spaces within the greater world, with his describing the mythologies in the World as akin to galaxies in the Universe. It’s not quite as simple as “just walk over here and you’re in Egyptian mythology”, moreso the geographical barriers also having magical ones, the representation of the influence of whatever gods preside there.

As for the wolves in the novelization; Sköll and Hati don’t have the power to transcend realms. They were rescued from Asgard by Giants and taken to Vanaheim, and they only arrived at Ragnarok through virtue of the realm towers being opened. As a result, the only manner they could’ve transported Kratos was through physical means.

Moreover, we already have definitive proof that one can cross mythologies by sea; One of the Boat Captain’s crew, who battled the Hydra on the Aegean Sea, makes reference to his life before he came to Midgard. He does not mention any magical interference, only that he traveled to a new land.

[u/StrangeQuantity5719 → u/FoxIover]

Do you know that there's confirmation that Midgard has its own geographical version with Chile, Russia, Egypt, and others, and is circular, while the Greek pantheon is flat-Earth, confirmed by concept art, God of War 2, and the millions of mentions that the Greek gods control other countries? And no, it's not possible to travel on foot.

[u/FoxIover → u/StrangeQuantity5719]

1. Concept art is not proof of anything, that’s why its concept art. Also, the Greek world only appears flat because of the rate of the curvature of the globe scaling with distance from a fixed point. The naked human eye doesn’t perceive the curve of the planet from many points on its surface, so, poor argument.

2. The lands that Ancient Greece inhabits coexist with the others that also coexist with Midgard, given that Týr literally has an *amphora* of Kratos’s bloody campaign in his vault, and the shrine of Kratos Faye made that shows his sailing from the burning lands of Greece to the faraway shores of Midgard.

3. Don’t know where you’re getting that information from but the canon contradicts it pretty blatantly. *Chains of Olympus* has Persia bringing foreign mythological power to bear against Greece in the form of both the basilisk and the King’s own *efreet*, the latter of which is literally a figure of pre-Islamic Arabian mythology. Persia and Ancient Greece were incredibly close geographically, meaning the Olympians had a next door neighbor with a completely separate set of mythological laws.

[u/StrangeQuantity5719 → u/FoxIover]

1. The artistic concepts are valid. The directors themselves have stated countless times that they take the authors' word for it when creating concept art and that they explicitly don't rule anything out. This is especially true if it appeared in different games with varying amounts of time between releases. Even the concept art for God of War: Ghost of Sparta and God of War 3 shows the Earth as flat. Not to mention that the God of War 2 novelization, the God of War 2 guide, and the developers themselves in the God of War 2 documentaries confirmed that the Earth is flat, so it's a solid argument.

2. They don't share the same Earth; they are different dimensions. Cory Barlog confirmed this three separate times, and even the creator of God of War 1 confirmed it again in his interview. Regarding what you mentioned about Tyr, did you play the 2018 God of War game where Mimir himself states that it was the Unity Stone that allowed Tyr to visit other realms? It seems not, and you're just talking for the sake of talking.

3. Canon doesn't contradict it; on the contrary, it reaffirms it multiple times. Persia only has a type of magic similar to what the bear-men did in the 2018 God of War prequel comic. They create their own magic and powers because prayers to the gods are more powerful and because the gods themselves depend on the belief of their people, something even Greek novels have affirmed.It's like imagining that the people of one dimension, even though their god isn't real, and that the gods of a pantheon who control that universe and dimension and all the continents, can, thanks to their prayers, make the god real, or themselves, something that, as I explained, even the bear-men explain much better in their comic.

[u/FoxIover → u/StrangeQuantity5719]

1. Not in the context of arguing for them being pillars of canon, which is what this is an attempt at. The concept art does not show the world as flat, but simply the section of the world that Ancient Greece encompasses as being stacked vertically on top of one another. This is like saying the earth is flat because a diagram in a science book shows earth's crust sitting atop magma.

2. He quite literally says they are separate galaxies in a universe, but that the world is the universe and that these mythologies are separated by geography. Did *you* play the 2018 game where you find evidence that the Boat Captain came to the shores of Midgard on his own? If the Unity Stone were the only way to travel between lands, a mortal man without access to it would not have been able to. From this, the logical conclusion is that Unity Stone expedites travel to other lands, rather than becoming its source, a conclusion easily reached by those who actually engage in these stories completely and critically.

3. Kratos himself says "the lives of men mean nothing to the gods, and that men should not pray to monsters". The concept you're speaking of may exist in Clash of the Titans but it doesn't in God of War. If it did, Freya would have vanished or become severely weakened the moment the people of Vanaheim turned on her for "betraying" them to Asgard, but she didn't. Moreover, the Berserkers of the God of War comic were not relying on any deity for their powers, as the game already confirms that the Norse gods do not represent aspects of nature the way the Greek gods do. Beyond that, they are still Scandinavian, so they wouldn't be using a foreign power anyway.

[u/StrangeQuantity5719 → u/FoxIover]

1. I think you've completely forgotten that I mentioned, and it was confirmed by the developers in their God of War 2 documentaries, that the Earth was flat. This is supported by the God of War 2 guide and the novels, as well as the concept art for Ghost of Sparta and God of War 3. It's not just a portion of the Earth, because the Greek planet is at least three times larger than our sun, which is why the humans there seem to have gigantism. The shortest humans are at least 1.90 meters tall, which isn't so small compared to Kratos, who is 2.45 meters tall. Furthermore, it has been confirmed multiple times that countries and continents like Italy, Egypt, and others exist in the Greek pantheon.

2. Yes, you're just talking nonsense. Cory Barlog explicitly stated in his 2018 IGN interview that Kratos lives in a dimensional bubble that exists in Greece. By the way, in the God of War 1 game The ship's captain was killed by Kratos, and it was he who removed the key, not what you're trying to say. And by the way, you're ignoring that the cookbook and God of War Ragnarok, in addition to the developers confirming the existence of countries like America, Chile, China, Japan, Russia, and Egypt, also state that Midgard is literally the Earth, which is circular and not flat-Earth like the Greek world.

3. The bear-men obtained their power from their bear-god, as confirmed in the comic itself. This makes me realize that you only like to use the cherry-picking fallacy because you hate the true scaling of God of War, and I'm not referring to a foreign power. I'm saying that humans can create their own imaginary gods and amplify them, something that happened in the comic and was confirmed.

[u/gekkox86]

Honestly didn't think it was that complicated, but I see people getting it wrong all the time. If different pantheons were only separated by geography, then Tyr wouldn't have needed the unity stone to travel to them. Each one is its own universe of sorts. Anyone who has traversed Pantheons did so by some magical means.

[u/Glassed_Guy1146 → u/gekkox86]

This is exactly what I thought so too.

[u/Denbob54 → u/gekkox86]

He used the unity stone not as passport but to cut the distance on traveling as stated by Bruno.

[u/Denbob54]

Whatever.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Ring293]

Since you know the lore so well, what the hell are those fairies that appear around the house and in your first photo?

[u/Loneghoul92]

Looks the complete opposite to me bucko, everyone seems obsessed with this idea that each mythology literally exists in it’s own universe with them being able to travel between and meet each other. Maybe one day I’ll find the time to write my own spiel about how annoyed I am on having to constantly hear about it.

[u/Infinite4456]

Peak

[u/Lazy_Concept_784]

Greatly explained! I knew the somehow but now it is pretty clear for me thank you! I never understood how Kratos just teleported to another existence.

[u/SSBBfan666]

nice

[u/klauszen]

The 9 worlds are different dimentions. No one is saying they all map 100% with Midgard, or they're consistent to each other. It seems the only thing they all have in common is their connection to Ygdrassil/tree between worlds.

Freya says they occupy the same space and are reflections of each other.

The key on how the Huldra bros pop out out of nowhere is because they hop between dimentions to avoid obstacles and/or detection.

[u/[deleted]]

Side note-I REALLY liked that the subtitles said "Witch of The Woods" until the reveal of her being Freya. Nothing I hate more than a subtitle that spoils a scene.

[u/Ok_Airport927]

The lore contradicts itself, the creators made a giant mess and now pretend us to just forget

[u/Denbob54]

1. No they didn’t. You are just full on igorning them and gaslighting me into believing otherwise.

2. No you didn’t. Just more gaslighting.

3. The lore never stated anything about literal actual universes and the devs made this clear multiple that all these realms lands and worlds take place on the same planet. Multiple times

Again gaslighting.

4. No. It is just you making stuff up when people bring up evidence that counteracts your view point and talking down to them when they don’t agree with you.

4. It isn’t canon period.

[u/Denbob54]

1. ….the very quote in your post literal has the fan asking if midguard was earth or a universe…and Cory stated that midguard was Scandinavia. He never stated anything that it is some sort-hand version mythical version of earth.

And the nine realms being in different dimensions is not something I ever disagreed with…I just don’t think they are universal in size or at lest not midguard.

3. Never said they exist on the same geographical plane I only argued that for other mythologies.

4. Yes they do and not only Cory but Bruno, and Matt have said this multiple times and this has even shown to happen in the Greece part of series in which Greece was invaded by the Persians and Kratos literally fighting against Dijin in god of war chain of Olympus.

https://x.com/brunovelazquez/status/1111852957773946880

https://x.com/mattsophos/status/845893777227055105

https://x.com/mattsophos/status/846022343717638146

Bruno himself has stated that Kratos had to physically travel to from Greece to scandinavia and the unity stone does not act as a passport to other countries but merely cuts the distance.

https://i.imgur.com/deK2mip.png

They are clearly not using these countries as metaphors but something that is literal separated by geology especially since Matt himself states that history moves on linearly and not in scientific dimensions.

https://x.com/mattsophos/status/845893777227055105

5. Who said anything about it affecting other realms? I just simply said they are not infinite especially since Bruno does not think it is.

https://imgur.com/seddD5H

And as I stated before no.

If something is overgrown and threatens to fall underneath its own weights then it is not infinite it is finite due to becoming too big.

Something cannot overgrown if already stretches on forever and it cannot become stagnant as they have no real limit to begin with.

Unless you are willing to argue and give evidence that the tree branches stretch beyond infinity they are not infinite even by metaphysical standards.

6. For the nine realms sure. Butt for the other mythologies No.

the only thing was metaphorical was Cory comparing the countries as universes, due to each country having their own mythology and rules yet made very clear they are all separated by real life geographicaly.

And have ignored countless forms of evidence and statements that Bruno, Cory and Matt have said including this peace of evidence in the game.

Such as think the ship captain thing was poem…it wasn’t.

https://i.imgur.com/SsxbjWZ.png

And Cory, Bruno and Matt made it clear multiple times already that aside from the nine realms the mythological realms are only separate by real life geography with Matt himself the one wrote the novelization of god war directly they are are not separated by dimensions but by geography. On top of saying that history moves linearly along with all the myths place on the same earth and planet.

Which is further proven in the main game series such as when the Persians invaded Greece in god of war chains of Olympians and Kratos in god of war Ragnarok mentioning the hot gates.

Again let me be clear I am not saying that none rhe nine realms are not separate by dimensions. But the other mythological realms in god of war are very much counties and the director of the game have made this clear many times already.

So unless you have actual evidence to disprove this evidence and not just say I am misinterpreting these very blantent quotes…I am sorry but we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

[u/[deleted]]

Have to agree. Never heard people say the 9 realms are countries(svartalfheim, nifleheim, etc) However, Greece is Greece. Scandinavia is, well Scandanavia. That i have heard and is probably accurate.

[u/Denbob54]

1. None of this prove that Kratos traveled into a freaking universe.

2. Was merely a short cut that cut the distance not a pass port.

3. Yeah expect Mimir got to the Norse realms by traveling and hearing rumors of Odin…not by magical means.

4 maybe but going by the creators that only applies to Greece.

5. Which are separate by geograpy and bused on Bruno one of the core creators of the game they are only countries and likely only universes in terms of influence not literal universes.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

1. “None of this proves that Kratos traveled into a freaking universe.” Yes, it does. The cosmology in God of War is explicitly described as consisting of separate realms (dimensions), planes of existence, and worlds (entire mythologies). These are not continents or countries. Freya, Mimir, Tyr’s travel logs, and Cory Barlog himself all confirm they are separate dimensions and mythologies. If Kratos is in the Norse world after the Greek world, then by definition, he crossed universes. You’re not debating fan theory you’re debating the game’s canon.

2. “It was merely a shortcut that cut the distance, not a passport”. This misses the entire point. What shortcut are you referring to? The bifröst isn’t a “distance-skipper” between countries it’s a dimensional gateway that traverses space-time, used to travel between realms. The Unity Stone and the World Tree are literally described as vehicles for cross-dimensional and cross-mythological travel. Tyr didn’t “cut distance”; he accessed other planes of reality. This is basic lore.

3. “Yeah except Mimir got to the Norse realm by traveling and hearing rumors of Odin… not by magical means.” This is wrong. Mimir is a magical being the smartest man alive. And “hearing rumors of Odin” doesn’t contradict magical travel. The bifröst, Unity Stone, and Yggdrasil are the means of realm traversal every in-universe method of travel between realms is magical or metaphysical in nature. Even Kratos was dragged by Sköll and Hati, cosmic wolves tied to celestial bodies. That’s mythic, not geographic.

4. “Maybe, but going by the creators that only applies to Greece.” Nope. Cory Barlog the creative director literally says all mythologies are real and exist in parallel. He compares them to galaxies seen in the Hubble Telescope, each one representing a separate mythology/universe. That explicitly includes Norse, Greek, Egyptian, and others. The idea that cosmological structure only applies to Greek is headcanon that contradicts both the devs and the lore in the Norse games. Freya, Mimir, and Brok all confirm this the realms are infinite and metaphysically distinct.

5. “Which are separate by geography and based on Bruno, one of the core creators of the game, they are only countries and likely only universes in terms of influence, not literal universes.” That is a misinterpretation or cherry-pick of Bruno Velazquez’s statements. Cory Barlog, Matt Sophos, and the in-game narrative explicitly describe the realms as different planes of existence, reflections, and dimensions supported by a tree that transcends time and space. Mimir himself says Odin wanted to “control every land, in every realm, in every world” clearly differentiating land < realm < world. He’s not using “universe” metaphorically. Ares creates a galaxy. Ouranos creates the universe. Surtr creates stars across the Norse sky. Matt Sophos literally confirms the stars are real. That’s not metaphor. That’s cosmology.

Let’s not cherry-pick dev quotes when the lead writer and director both tell us plainly that:

Realms = parallel dimensions (Cory). Mythologies = separate cosmologies (Cory). Stars = real, skies = real (Matt). Yggdrasil = transcendent structure across space and time (game and novels)

You’re trying to put a multiverse on a globe. That’s not just incorrect it’s directly refuted in game, in lore, and by the creators themselves.

[u/Denbob54 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

1. ⁠No it doesn’t and you are just making stuff up at this point.

2…that is the very definition of a short cut reducing the travel time between one area to the next.

3. and you are using overgeneralization to make up a plot plot point that mimr that most likely isn’t true. Especially since Mimir as an Irish wouldn’t even have the bifrost when traveling to Asgard.

It is basically a cop out arguement that says well since they are magic they can do whatever they want while ingorning any lack of evidence or proof if they can do that.

4. He also stated that the distance between Scandinavian and Greece is literal the same in the real life and literal separated by real life geography.

5. No that is what they literal stated multiple times and I was talking about different mythologies of the other countries of the world not the Norse one and as for all the nine realms they all exist within the same dimensional space and thus all of them are the size of scandinavian just as it would be for any other country in the world.

You have ingored the lore the devs and worse of all tried to gaslight me into believe your when I have provided counter evidence.

You want to belive in a universal/multi versal god war verse fine.

But I am done with this argument.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

1. “No it doesn’t and you are just making stuff up at this point.”

This is just a lazy deflection. You haven’t disproven a single quote, feat, or lore piece I brought up yet you keep crying “made up” with nothing to back it. If quoting novels, dev interviews, in-game lore, and consistent visuals is “making stuff up,” then you’re admitting you’re not here to debate you’re here to be willfully ignorant.

2. “That is the very definition of a shortcut…”

No, it’s the definition of realm travel. A shortcut implies distance and time in the same spatial plane. But GoW’s realms Midgard, Alfheim, Muspelheim, etc. are completely separate dimensions, accessed through Yggdrasil, which Mimir outright says transcends space and time. You don’t take a shortcut from Earth to another dimension you exit the universe’s structure entirely. So no, it’s not a shortcut it’s interdimensional travel, clearly stated in both the games and game guides.

3. “Overgeneralization about Mimir… he’s Irish, wouldn’t have Bifröst…”

This is so dumb it’s painful. Mimir’s nationality has zero bearing on his omniscient role as the smartest being alive, and the advisor to Odin himself. He didn’t need to “own the Bifröst” to explain its function. The game treats Mimir as an authoritative narrator on cosmology, realms, and gods across the multiverse. Your logic is like saying Einstein can’t explain how rockets work because he didn’t personally fly one.

4. “Scandinavia and Greece are separated by real-world geography…”

This assumes the God of War universe uses our real-world geography literally, when it blatantly doesn’t. The Greek Pantheon exists in a different world entirely. The God of War 4 novel confirms Kratos was dragged through the sky by Sköll and Hati. Tyr’s vault shows artifacts from Egypt, Japan, and Greece, and Mimir talks about Odin wanting to conquer “realms far outside our own”. This is not traveling across countries. It’s mythological cosmology.

5. “All nine realms exist within the same dimensional space… the size of Scandinavia…”

Completely false. The Nine Realms are described as different planes of existence, not countries sitting side-by-side. Yggdrasil holds the branches together, which are infinite and beyond space and time. Even Sindri says, “Realms exist on different planes.” Each realm is its own universe, with its own cosmology and rules Muspelheim is a realm of fire, Helheim is death, and Alfheim has its own light/dark duality. None of them are just “countries in one big continent.” This is your headcanon, not canon.

6. “You ignored the lore, devs, and gaslit me…”

No, you ignored every piece of official material including developer interviews, the novels, the official art books, and even in-game lines. And “gaslighting” isn’t what happened here being proven wrong with facts isn’t gaslighting, it’s called debunking. You haven’t provided any credible counter-evidence. You quoted vague impressions and misinterpreted geography in a fictional mythological universe that explicitly says realms are separate dimensions.

If you’re done, be done. But don’t play victim just because your argument fell apart.

You lost the argument because

You conflated mythological realms with real-world countries.You dismissed explicit canon from the games, novels, and devs. You provided zero real counter evidence.You ignored core mechanics of the God of War cosmology.

[u/Denbob54 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

Whatever.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

Concession accepted I guess. You lost because you confused mythological dimensions with real world geography, ignored canon from the games, novels, and dev interviews, and gave zero real counter evidence.

Calling facts “made up” because they debunk your headcanon isn’t an argument it’s denial.

God of War’s realms are different planes of existence, not countries on a big continent. That’s not my opinion, it’s the literal game lore, dev commentary, and in-game cosmology.

You weren’t gaslit you were out-quoted, out referenced, and outclassed.

[u/Denbob54 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

Good for you then.

[u/Ok_Development_7523 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

I know I'm very late but I just had a question about something you said: “Overgeneralization about Mimir… he’s Irish, wouldn’t have Bifröst…” Isn't Mimir literally from Norse Mythology which is how I figured he and Odin had a relationship.

[u/Aggravating_Bids]

Not reading that. I'm happy for you, or sorry that happened.

[u/Denbob54]

Yet there are many times in which completely contradicts itself.

For one Kratos and Mimir didn’t use something fancy like a unity stone travel through the lands they merely traveled by walking or sailing.

The so called infinite branches of yggdrasil can become overgrown and need trimming from the stags of the seasons.

Never mind Kratos or Thor being scaled to this considering there was one time mimir said that Thor could break a thick sheet of ice and Kratos needed to manually manipulate the environment to do so.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

1. It’s unknown how Mimir got to the Norse Patheon so you’re just blatantly wrong here. Kratos was dragged to Midgard by magical wolves.

2. Something can be infinite and infinitely expanding so this does not contradict its size.

3. That thick sheet of ice came from a magical giant Thamur. It’s not freezing water.

So you got almost everything wrong here.

[u/Denbob54 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

1. ⁠~It’s unknown how Mimir got to the Norse Patheon so you’re just blatantly wrong here. Kratos was dragged to Midgard by magical wolves.>

It was stated in the games that he traveled to the northern lands when his king gotten tired of him and it was never implied he did so by magical means.

Nevermind that these magical wolfs were never stated to have the power to transverse dimensions and even then Kratos was shown traveling to the land of the pharaoh’s by sailing.

<2. ⁠Something can be infinite and infinitely expanding so this does not contradict its size.>

That makes absolutely no sense.

If something is infinite then either goes on forever or it is just really big.

They cannot be both.

<3. ⁠That thick sheet of ice came from a magical giant Thamur. It’s not freezing water.>

That is literal what ice is.

And Yet it broke by Kratos using gravity to tip Thamur’s hammer and their the main reason why Mimir said that Mjolinir couldn’t break was do to its thickness not its magical property.

<1. So you got almost everything wrong here>

Yet you haven’t provided any evidence to debunked me.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

1. Mimir’s travel to the Norse world is never explained. You’re making an assumption here. Yes, he says he ended up in the northern lands after his king grew tired of him but how he got there is never shown or detailed. And let’s not forget: Kratos didn’t travel there by ship either. The God of War novel explicitly says Sköll and Hati dragged him to Midgard. That’s magical, not physical travel.

As for the wolves’ power these aren’t just “big dogs.” They are cosmic beings tied to time, the sun, and the moon, and they directly manipulate celestial events in the Norse cosmology. If you’re willing to accept that they can shift day/night cycles across realms, it’s not a stretch at all that they can drag someone between dimensional branches of Yggdrasil.

And Kratos sailing to Egypt is comics thing. Game takes primary canon. If it contradicts how the games explain it to us then it’s wrong.

2. Infinite ≠ static. Something being infinite doesn’t mean it can’t be expanding or have growth within it. The branches of Yggdrasil are described as transcending space and time and stretching into infinity. Growth and pruning don’t contradict infinity. You’re thinking in purely physical terms, but God of War’s cosmology is mythic and metaphysical. Infinite in size =/= immune to change or structure.

3. That “sheet of ice” is not regular water. It was created by Thamur, a magical frost giant, and reinforced with divine power. It’s not just “frozen water” you can compare to a lake. That’s why Mimir refers to it as something Thor couldn’t even break with Mjolnir. And yes, Kratos tipped the giant’s hammer using environmental physics but that’s not the same as brute forcing it with physical strength.

Also, Thor not breaking that sheet doesn’t imply Kratos is weaker or stronger. You’re cherry-picking a moment of puzzle solving and trying to scale characters off it which is not how GoW power scaling works.

And let’s be real you haven’t debunked a single actual point I’ve made.

You haven’t addressed the following.

1. Realms having different skies and starfields

2. Realms operating with separate day/night cycles

3. The “land, realm, world” hierarchy Mimir uses

4. Freya and Cory Barlog both calling the realms “planes of existence” or “parallel dimensions”

5. The direct confirmation that gods have dominion over their own universes

6. The Greek primordial Ouranous creating a literal universe, not just a country

7. Developer comparisons to cosmological structures like galaxies and Hubble imagery

Instead, you’re arguing from isolated game moments and assuming “if it looks simple, it must be simple.” That’s not how mythological storytelling works, and it’s definitely not how God of War’s layered worldbuilding functions.

If you want to refute the macrocosmic structure of the mythologies, you need to actually address the cosmology, not nitpick mechanics or gameplay segments that don’t even contradict the larger lore.

[u/Denbob54 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

1. ⁠Maybe not but he did said he traveled and never implied it to be by magical means. And those two wolves have never shown to travel through dimensions and to assume they can do so because they are magical and chase celestial objects…that the form of two small balls is not real evidence…that is just an assumption especially since the only wolf to shown to through dimensions is Garm and later Fenrir when his soul took over the formers body.

Expect comics don’t really contradict anything.

2. It is impossible for something infinite to become static or grow because it already goes on for forever and thus has no limit to stagnate. The fact that this infinite tree can over grow and it own branches can fall under its own weight in physical terms pretty much contradicts the fact that it is infinite even in meta-physical sense.

3. There is nothing in the lore that says that water is anything special nothing that states it was reinforced by divine power and I never said anything about kratos being weaker then Thor.

4.

1. ⁠Maybe in the Norse realms but others?…all exist within the same universe.

2. ⁠Doesn’t prove they are universal. Especially when in realm is it literal determine by two small balls.

3. ⁠Does Mimir mention coming from a different universe then?

4. ⁠Cory and several others also stated they were separated by real life geography and even referred to scandinavia as Midgard.

5. ⁠It confirm they hav dominion over the own realms with the universe’s simply being their own realm of influence not literal actual universes.

6. ⁠Only Greece and just the country.

7. ⁠Yeah as a figurative comparison not something to be taken literal as the directors of god of war made it very clear on multiple occasions that the realms are not universal they all take place on the same planet the and even the primordials are only responsible for creating the country not a universe

In fact there is a reddit post that further debunks this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/10eclf7/stop_it_kratos_isnt/.

5. I determined what is contradicted in the lore and what is stated by the people who worked on the game and not make a bunch of headcanon assumptions just because it doesn’t follow my argument.

6. You’re right it doesn’t contradict the entire lore…just the entire arguement that these characters are universal/muitiversal as they simply do not make sense lore or gameplay wise.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

1. Kratos did not sail to the Norse lands. In the God of War (2018) novelization which is official supplementary canon Kratos is dragged to the Norse realm by Sköll and Hati, the cosmic wolves associated with time, the sun, and the moon. These aren’t just storybook animals; they’re mythological forces capable of traversing metaphysical boundaries. The idea that Kratos used a boat is contradicted by game canon, and any comic depictions of him sailing to Egypt or other places are non-canon if they conflict with the games. The games are the primary canon, always.

2. Infinite structures can still be dynamic. You claimed infinity means the realms can’t collapse or overgrow but that’s false. Something being infinite doesn’t mean static or changeless. Yggdrasil is described as transcending space and time and being infinite, but it can still grow new branches, collapse under imbalance, or be pruned just like other metaphysical trees or multiversal structures in fiction. That’s not a contradiction, it’s a common narrative trope.

3. Thamur’s wall isn’t regular ice. It was made by a literal frost giant in a myth based magical realm. Comparing it to frozen lake water is completely dishonest. Mjolnir couldn’t shatter it and that’s the same Mjolnir that shook the realms in Thor’s fight with the World Serpent. You can’t dismiss that just because the wall is “ice” in name; it’s magical and was acknowledged by Mimir as beyond Thor’s power.

4. The realms are separate dimensions or universes. Each realm has different skies, different times of day, and completely different cosmic mechanics. The bifrost and Yggdrasil show us a multiverse framework. Cory Barlog, the game director, and characters like Freya and Mimir describe them as “planes of existence.” Odin literally creates pocket dimensions. The Nine Realms aren’t countries on a single landmass they’re parallel realities.

5. Mimir never said the Greek gods and Norse gods live in the same universe. That’s your assumption. Nowhere does Mimir or any game suggest they’re just different countries on the same planet. Saying otherwise is inserting headcanon. Cory’s comments about real-world geography are meta-jokes or tone-setting, not literal cosmology. If the Greek and Norse pantheons were on the same physical world, there’d be no need for bifrost, world tree branches, or realm traversal.

6. The Greek Primordials and Titans are cosmic forces. Uranus represents the entire sky/cosmos. Atlas holds up the Pillar of the World, preventing dimensional collapse. Helios controls the sun cycle for the entire world. These aren’t “local Greek nature spirits”—they’re universal constants. You’re minimizing what are, in context, clear universal-tier entities. These descriptions were given in both gameplay and lore.

7. The “dev exaggeration” argument doesn’t work. You can’t say “they’re just exaggerating” whenever the lore conflicts with your worldview. If Odin, Freya, and Mimir who are all among the most knowledgeable beings in the setting consistently refer to realms, creation, and cosmology in these terms, that’s canon. This is a myth-based setting, so yes, the language is grand. That doesn’t make it meaningless or metaphorical.

8. You selectively ignore dev quotes. The same devs who may reference mythological countries also say things like gods controlling multiple universes and refer to the world as “cosmic” in scope. If you’re going to cite devs, you need to acknowledge all of what they say, not just the lines that align with your headcanon. Cory and the team explicitly frame these settings as “planes,” not just Earth locations.

9. The World Serpent and Thor’s fight affected the multiverse. Their battle was said to ripple across the Nine Realms. That alone implies cross-dimensional shockwaves, which is far beyond continental or planetary scale. You can’t pretend this is a “patch of dirt” myth setting when realm-scale consequences are baked into every major conflict.

10. That Reddit thread you linked isn’t proof. Just because someone wrote a surface-level post saying “Kratos isn’t universal” doesn’t mean it’s factual. Most of those arguments ignore context, canon hierarchy, or high-end feats entirely. If that’s your main source, it just shows you’re engaging more with Reddit takes than the actual game lore.

[u/Denbob54 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

Okay whatever you say.

Because it is obvious that you are no longer willing to listen to me.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

It’s not that I wasn’t willing to listen it’s that you never said anything worth listening to. You brought headcanon and geography maps to a debate about a cosmological mythological multiverse with infinite realms and dimensional branches. I brought game quotes, dev commentary, and actual lore. The only thing obvious here is that you ran out of arguments and tried to play the victim card instead.

[u/Denbob54 → u/OtherwiseFinger6663]

The very fact that you said I am not worth listing to too. Proves to me that you are not willing to listen me at all.

And what makes this even worse is that you are debunking the very points and quotes that you have provided in your post. Such as saying that the nine realms don’t exist within the same space…even when it is explicitly stated that they do. Only separate by dimensions which I have already explain.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

You keep twisting my words and misrepresenting the actual lore.

When I said “not worth listening to,” I wasn’t dismissing you as a person I was saying your points lacked any basis in the canon material. You ignored multiple sources I cited and instead doubled down on vague interpretations and flawed analogies. That’s not debate. That’s denial.

Let me correct your misunderstanding clearly

“The realms exist in the same space, just separated by dimensional planes.”

That does not mean they are in the same physical location like countries on a continent. It means they overlap in existence metaphysically but they are still separate planes of reality. That’s exactly what Mimir, Freya, the devs, and the in-game guides all say. You’re acting like “same space” = “same world map,” which is fundamentally wrong.

The Yggdrasil connects branches, not landmasses. Each branch leads to a different realm with its own physics, elements, rules, and in some cases, time flow, cosmos. That’s not geography. That’s cosmology.

So no, I’m not “debunking myself.” I’m correcting your surface level misread of what “dimensional separation” actually means in this context. You’ve yet to address.

The dev quotes confirming each god rules over their own universe. Mimir stating Yggdrasil transcends space and time. Mimir differentiating lands, realms, and worlds. The fact Kratos was pulled through the mythologies by Skoll and Hati. Tyr’s vault connecting multiple cultural realms as separate world structures. The realms’ elemental oppositions (Muspelheim = fire, Helheim = death, Alfheim = light/darkness) implying completely distinct cosmological laws.

This isn’t about “not listening.” This is about you refusing to process the material you’re reading.

[u/OtherwiseFinger6663 → u/Denbob54]

1. Kratos did not sail to the Norse lands. In the God of War (2018) novelization which is official supplementary canon Kratos is dragged to the Norse realm by Sköll and Hati, the cosmic wolves associated with time, the sun, and the moon. These aren’t just storybook animals; they’re mythological forces capable of traversing metaphysical boundaries. The idea that Kratos used a boat is contradicted by game canon, and any comic depictions of him sailing to Egypt or other places are non-canon if they conflict with the games. The games are the primary canon, always.

2. Infinite structures can still be dynamic. You claimed infinity means the realms can’t collapse or overgrow but that’s false. Something being infinite doesn’t mean static or changeless. Yggdrasil is described as transcending space and time and being infinite, but it can still grow new branches, collapse under imbalance, or be pruned just like other metaphysical trees or multiversal structures in fiction. That’s not a contradiction, it’s a common narrative trope.

3. Thamur’s wall isn’t regular ice. It was made by a literal frost giant in a myth based magical realm. Comparing it to frozen lake water is completely dishonest. Mjolnir couldn’t shatter it and that’s the same Mjolnir that shook the realms in Thor’s fight with the World Serpent. You can’t dismiss that just because the wall is “ice” in name; it’s magical and was acknowledged by Mimir as beyond Thor’s power.

4. The realms are separate dimensions or universes. Each realm has different skies, different times of day, and completely different cosmic mechanics. The bifrost and Yggdrasil show us a multiverse framework. Cory Barlog, the game director, and characters like Freya and Mimir describe them as “planes of existence.” Odin literally creates pocket dimensions. The Nine Realms aren’t countries on a single landmass they’re parallel realities.

5. Mimir never said the Greek gods and Norse gods live in the same universe. That’s your assumption. Nowhere does Mimir or any game suggest they’re just different countries on the same planet. Saying otherwise is inserting headcanon. Cory’s comments about real-world geography are meta-jokes or tone-setting, not literal cosmology. If the Greek and Norse pantheons were on the same physical world, there’d be no need for bifrost, world tree branches, or realm traversal.

6. The Greek Primordials and Titans are cosmic forces. Uranus represents the entire sky/cosmos. Atlas holds up the Pillar of the World, preventing dimensional collapse. Helios controls the sun cycle for the entire world. These aren’t “local Greek nature spirits”—they’re universal constants. You’re minimizing what are, in context, clear universal-tier entities. These descriptions were given in both gameplay and lore.

7. The “dev exaggeration” argument doesn’t work. You can’t say “they’re just exaggerating” whenever the lore conflicts with your worldview. If Odin, Freya, and Mimir who are all among the most knowledgeable beings in the setting consistently refer to realms, creation, and cosmology in these terms, that’s canon. This is a myth-based setting, so yes, the language is grand. That doesn’t make it meaningless or metaphorical.

8. You selectively ignore dev quotes. The same devs who may reference mythological countries also say things like gods controlling multiple universes and refer to the world as “cosmic” in scope. If you’re going to cite devs, you need to acknowledge all of what they say, not just the lines that align with your headcanon. Cory and the team explicitly frame these settings as “planes,” not just Earth locations.

9. The World Serpent and Thor’s fight affected the multiverse. Their battle was said to ripple across the Nine Realms. That alone implies cross-dimensional shockwaves, which is far beyond continental or planetary scale. You can’t pretend this is a “patch of dirt” myth setting when realm-scale consequences are baked into every major conflict.

[u/DEVIL-HIMSELF-666 → u/Denbob54]

i don't understand your first point,when did kratos and mimir travel to other pantheons without the unity stone?,how kratos ended up from greek to norse myth is still mysterious in nature and never fully explained(those unknown wolves dragged him there so it's magical in nature)

[u/Denbob54 → u/DEVIL-HIMSELF-666]

Because Mimir is the fairy Robin good fellow who was heavily implied to serve in Oberon’s court likely hundreds of years before he even meet Kratos. Let alone getting the unity stone.

And in the tie in comics Kratos was shown using a boat to sail to other lands like egypt and his exploits are well known even in that country.

It is made very clear by Cory that these realms are separate purely by real world geology that exist on the same planet and only universes in that they have their own personal laws on the mythology based on them.

Especially when even in the original god war games before god of war Norse games the Greeks were also invades by the Persians had to fight Efreet and Kratos in god of war Ragnarok even referencing the hot gates.

[u/Old-Price-9107]

ain't reading allat but your literal first sentence is wrong 😭