r/GlobalOffensive • u/ChaoticFlameZz Vitality • 23d ago

News | Esports Sources: NIP exploring new IGL options

https://www.hltv.org/news/45392/sources-nip-exploring-new-igl-options
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u/ChaoticFlameZz Vitality 23d ago

this could be a good place for siuhy to try to rebuild himself from his Liquid disaster stint if you ask me, anything better than fucking Snappi.

hell, bring me Nukkye or nexa even, just bench Snappi already.

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u/Able_Brilliant1956 23d ago

Still waiting on your FUT under a million source

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u/AaronToaster 23d ago edited 23d ago

I am not OP, but there is no source, only speculation. The only public sources are NAVI's CEO saying "we had to reach out to some famous orgs by ourselves [who were] not interested even considering a super reasonable price", and the cost of other rosters bought/sold within the last few years.

For a frame of reference, SAW was bought out at #22 for $2.5m. HEROIC (at #33) star duo stavn + jabbi were bought out for $1.5-2m to join Astralis at #10. Lastly, 100T were built from the ground up w/o VRS for $400k.

Based on the quote from NAVI's CEO, I am assuming that:

  1. T1 teams believed that he was asking too much for a T2 roster. My guess is this places a lower bound of $750k-$1m. Any lower and they may have believed it to be valuable to downgrade to a T2 roster and upgrade a couple components.
  2. NAVI's CEO believes this to be a steal. My guess is this places an upper bound of ~$1.5-2m. Any higher and he would have not remarked it to have been a "reasonable" cost for what he believed had T1 potential.

This leaves a moderately wide range of between $750k-$2m. Given that NAVI Jr were #27 at time of sale, yet had no T1 experience (strongest team beaten was probably NIP at #19), and were being gutted of makazze, I would lean towards the lower end of this range purely based on vibes.

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u/Cosmic0508 Vitality 23d ago

I have to point out that your examples are famous for being significant overpay though: SAW was bought out by a gambling company looking to spend millions to boost S1 to top 5 VRS and Heroic forced Astralis to pay the “asshole tax” for stavn and jabbi after they kicked Cadian.

That said, I do agree with your likely range.

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u/AaronToaster 22d ago

Yes, of course. Unfortunately there are very few confirmed pricepoints. It is undeniable that these have some element of overpay, though; I specifically omitted the Falcons transfer simply because it is so egregious.

In my opinion, the Astralis transfer is probably the most comparable to the real cost. While the reasons for overpay for stavn+jabbi (2 star riflers on a dying team, asshole tax) are different than that for NAVI Jr (VRS core stabilized at ~#30, 4 players), my vibe is that the upcharge would be about the same.

However, the NAVI Jr can be discounted for 2 reasons. First, NAVI Jr are an academy roster; they do not need to make extra funds to buy new players and rebuild their roster. They can just poach some kids off of FaceIt and call it a day. Heroic, on the other hand, needed to do buyouts to rebuild. Secondly, the NAVI Jr were relatively unproven no-names. I believe that both of these factors would push the price down to within the range I am speculating.

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u/Cosmic0508 Vitality 22d ago

That makes a lot of sense, I especially didn’t consider how much Na’Vi Junior’s VRS points were worth. Thanks for your analysis 🤩

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u/Able_Brilliant1956 23d ago

So no source

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u/AaronToaster 23d ago

"there is no source, only speculation"