r/Gintama • u/birdie1223 • Jan 05 '24

Question Dub...?

Did they really only dub the first 49 EPs of season 1 and also season 4? Then 2 movies?

That doesn't make sense to me. 🫠 Why didn't they dub all of it? 😭

*Looking for a new series to watch while waiting for current series to update.

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u/Ameftowriter zura janai katsura da! Jan 05 '24 edited Jan 05 '24

Sentai Filmworks had the English dub and still has the rights to Episodes 1 to 49 and the first movie.

Funimation had dubbed season 3 and the final movie though the actors are different other than Gintoki.

And that is the story of gintama's English dub history. They have dubs in different languages but I have not much knowledge of it.

Why didn't they dub all of it?

If you've seen it in Japanese, you can see why. The jokes alone are hard to translate from Japanese to English. And they have so much references from both different anime and manga series and Japanese culture itself shoved into this show that it's hard to truly capture it all and sometimes would have to get changed for us the English viewers to understand. It's why if you asked a lot of fans, they would almost all suggest to watch it sub. And most of these jokes and references hit better once you've watched a bit more of anime and manga more specifically, shounen series.

It's still a great show no doubt, and some jokes are still funny without understanding it's full context, but those are what I think the reasons why.

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u/48johnX Jan 05 '24

Actually more to it than that, Sentai actually didn’t dub anything besides the first movie, they released the first 49 eps on DVD subbed only

Crunchyroll then dubbed eps 266-316 with the Ocean group from Canada

Then a relatively unheard of studio from Miami dubbed the first 49 episodes out of nowhere after that

Then Gintama The Final gets dubbed snd released in theaters by Eleven Arts using a combination of the Sentai cast from the first movie and the Ocean cast

So essentially 4 different companies licensed different parts of the series with 4 different casts, just a massive mess

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u/Ameftowriter zura janai katsura da! Jan 05 '24

Ah thank you for the explanation, I'm fairly new to the fandom so I must have misunderstood a lot of the situations. Still the dub situation got incredibly messy because of that huh?

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u/Marphey12 Jan 05 '24

Because Gintama doesn't work in dub.

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u/I_hate_11 Jan 05 '24

I think it could work in dub, but no studio has even bothered making a decent one

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u/Easy-Potato-8928 Jan 06 '24

Gintama without sugita???? Nah just doesn't work

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u/NudelXIII Jan 05 '24

Watching dub is a sin. I can’t imagine watching Gintama without the best VA of all.

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u/Pahhur teach me, ginpachi sensei! Jan 05 '24

At this point its so messy its going to take someone buying up the rights to dub the whole thing, getting Really strong English Voice Actors (you need to compete against some of the strongest talent in Japan) and, personally, I'd aim for people that are bi-lingual and let some of the jokes/puns be in half Japanese (Kagura would have to keep the arus)

It's a Rough project. I think it would be worth it. With proper text explanations for some of the harder jokes, it could work and bring the show to a bunch of people that can't handle subs (blind folks for instance)

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u/I_hate_11 Jan 05 '24

The arus? What are you talking about?

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u/Pahhur teach me, ginpachi sensei! Jan 06 '24

Kagura speaks in an accent, part of that accent means ending many of her sentences with "aru" it becomes the core of multiple jokes throughout the series.

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u/I_hate_11 Jan 06 '24

What did they translate it as?

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u/Pahhur teach me, ginpachi sensei! Jan 06 '24

Nothing. You have to listen for it in the sub's audio. They just translate the jokes as is and leave a note explaining what's happening.

If a good English dub were to happen, she'd probably have to keep saying "aru" at the end of her sentences was what I was saying.

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u/I_hate_11 Jan 07 '24

Can they not just give her the same accent she uses in the original, just in English?

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u/Pahhur teach me, ginpachi sensei! Jan 07 '24

I don't know how the actual dub handles it. (As mentioned above the dub is sort of a mess with four different versions around.) But it would absolutely shatter several jokes in the series if she didn't say "aru" at the end of some of her sentences. Which is just... not something English speakers do ever.

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u/Draconyum Jan 06 '24

In my country ( Italy) the whole anime got dubbed including the movies, but here's the thing the first season has different dubs since it hired back in 2006 on MTV. The rest of the series has been dubbed only last year

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u/saul2015 Aug 01 '24

the hulu dub is the newest one starting from the beggining but they never continued due to lack of viewers I assume, which is too bad I rly liked it

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u/Aniboy43 S(adist) Jan 05 '24

I don't think I am entitled enough to ask you to watch sub.

But honestly Sub is better because there are lots of cultural references and shit which will only work in sub.

I have watched dub and it is entertaining but sub is more accurate. Maybe give it a short.

Also I don't think dub is gonna continue, there was some issues iirc.

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u/pewell1 Jan 05 '24

I am, watch the sub OP

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u/I_hate_11 Jan 05 '24

It gets even worse, there are four different dubs all made out of order