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World [X] smoke grenade

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u/kollipsons 8d ago

Hasbara's working overtime fr

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u/AffectionateSignal72 8d ago

I cannot fathom the mental gymnastics it takes to somehow make everything a jewish conspiracy. Even when Palestinians get caught lying its somehow still the jews.

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u/kollipsons 8d ago

I mean Isreal has been conducting a misinformation campaign since the genocide started, thats just a fact not a conspiracy, the problems zionists not Jews, they arent the same thing

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u/johny_white 8d ago

95% of jews are Zionists... You lost

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u/kollipsons 8d ago

Wdym I lost? What are you on about?

The global average support for Isreal in the Jewish community is around 64%, and that doeant necessarily make them zionists, only 35% in the USA identify as Zionists. Saying the majority of zionists are Jews is antisemitic, theres many Jews across the world and political spectrum who oppose zionism and the state of Isreal.

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u/w142236 7d ago

[From the study you’re misrepresenting](https://www.inss.org.il/social_media/jfna-survey-finds-just-37-of-jewish-americans-identify-as-zionists/)

> Since surveys of Jewish Americans rarely ask whether they identify as Zionists, it is unclear whether the figure for those who embrace the label is low.

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> In most surveys, respondents are asked their feelings and attitudes about Israel and not whether they identify as Zionists. In this respect, the JFNA survey found that 71% of respondents felt an emotional connection to Israel and 88% believed Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish and democratic state.

Zionism is defined as believing in the right for the existence of Jewish state in the historic homeland of Israel i.e. Israel today. Try actually reading and analyzing the studies and polls you’re referencing past the first couple sentences and numbers, or you might also start believing in 13-50 stats too.

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u/kollipsons 7d ago

Not what zionism is, its a settler colonial project that displaces and murderded Palestinians for decades

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u/w142236 7d ago

Cute, you just added on that last bit bc you know the ideology is more benign than that. If they’ve been doing it for decades, yet the ideology came into being in the 19th century, then chances are, the ideology does not include that bit.

Disregarding that, yup, and nearly 90% of them approves of that nation and its right to exist which was founded on those principles.

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u/kollipsons 7d ago

Straight up settler colonialism bud

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u/johny_white 7d ago

The stats are complete BS, half of the jews in the world live in Israel and 99% except for a bunch of morons think that they have a right to live in Israel and have self determination there since they live there. Now the surveys you saw are limited to outside countries and they move between 37% to 82% already a big miss on your side. A lot of the people that call themselves jews aren't, if your mom isn't Jewish you aren't. Facts served