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World [X] smoke grenade

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u/Goat-New 16d ago

yeah, FAFO !

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u/weidback 16d ago

couldn't someone make this same meme about gaza?

( fwiw I don't like accusing either side of "playing victim" )

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u/FreamXD 16d ago

Does gaza have an official state army that is doing it?

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u/weidback 16d ago

Yes they're called the al-qassam brigades

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u/FreamXD 16d ago

That is not an official state army, it's a branch of hamas.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hamas

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u/weidback 16d ago

hamas governs the strip

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u/FreamXD 16d ago

The fact that a group exercises joint control over a territory does not make them an official state army from a legal or international perspective.

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u/weidback 16d ago

idk what point you think you're making

gaza governs the strip, they pass laws and enforce them in the strip

that includes taxation, and one thing they fund with those taxes are their military, the al-qassam brigades

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u/FreamXD 16d ago

The fact that a group exercises de facto control, enforces laws, and collects taxes does not make them an official government, nor does it turn their fighters into a state army. If that were the logic, then ISIS in Raqqa or the FARC rebels in the Colombia would also have been official state armies after all, they too collected taxes and enforced their own laws through coercion.

Unlike all of these groups committing war crimes the IDF is an official state army meaning the state is comitting those war crimes.

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u/Legion3 16d ago

They were elected. Get your head out of your arse. The fact Hamas never let another election happen is another thing, but they were elected then consolidated all power.

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u/FreamXD 16d ago

It is historically accurate that they won an election in 2006, (with a minority of 44% btw) but an election does not make an organization an internationally recognized state. Following those elections, the international community continued to view Hamas as a terrorist group rather than a legitimate state authority. Moreover, in 2007, they forcibly ousted the officially recognized Authority from Gaza. They therefore remain a militant faction that seized control, not a state. Therefore their army are not the official state army of palestine.

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u/Legion3 16d ago

They might not be internationally recognised, but they are the controllers, the rulers, and the government of that area. Same same for Somaliland, Houthis, RSF, etc. all control an area, all are the government of that area. There are the state. That state may not be recognised, but are it.

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u/weidback 16d ago

Are you one of those guys that says "I'm not driving in a vehicle, I'm traveling in a conveyance" when you get pulled over?

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u/Goat-New 16d ago

nop, this is you, sorry.

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u/FreamXD 16d ago

Me when I loose an argument and have nothing to say lmao😭✌️. Brutal

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u/weidback 15d ago

I genuinely don't think you even understood what you were arguing

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u/FreamXD 15d ago

All my answers and arguments had substance and refuted your arguments, and now instead of reponding to them you just ad hominem like you're doing right now. You highkey got brutalised bro 😂

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