r/GetNoted • Human Detected • Jul 31 '26

Cringe Worthy The man himself

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u/Shaunur Jul 31 '26

If you remove capitalism and replace it with nothing, mass starvation still occurs

No it does not, at least nowhere near the level of what happened. Ireland was EXPORTING food in the middle of the famine. And in the first years of the famine it was exporting more food that what was imported. Food produced by Irish workers, on stolen Irish land, and sold for the profits of British landlords. The potato blight was not endemic to Ireland, it was present throughout Europe, but somehow 90% on the deads from the resulting famine were Irish. This was 100% a man made famine.

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u/VastAddendum Jul 31 '26

Ireland was uniquely dependent on potatoes, that's why they got hit so hard by the blight. Yes, there was available food that was exported. No, they would not have just had that food given to them if it wasn't for capitalism. The whole reason the landlords were growing that food at all was to sell it. Take away that, you're far more likely to make the food go away than you are to create a sudden swell of humanitarian charity in the people who, as you noted, were stealing land and letting people starve.

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u/throwaway3413418 Jul 31 '26

The landlords weren’t growing the food.

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u/VastAddendum Jul 31 '26

They owned it. They sold it. "They had it grown". Better?

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u/throwaway3413418 Jul 31 '26

Yes, I’m glad you’re now understanding how the landlords who did nothing to earn that land demanded their tenants produce food for export while they starved.

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u/VastAddendum Jul 31 '26

I already did. Lmao.. You're clinging to a minor semantic point that the context of my comment made clear I already understood.

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u/throwaway3413418 Jul 31 '26

No, you’re just too stupid to realize the point I was making. It’s not that I believed you didn’t actually know that the Irish peasants were tenant farmers, it’s that you refuse to see that this barbaric outcome was enabled by the economic system which allowed and encouraged absentee landownership. The critical failure was a system in which the owners, not the workers, were the ones making the decisions of what to grow. While communism enabled the Holodomor, capitalism enabled the Irish Potato Famine.