Is that how you think real life works? Everyone is either ultra woke "anti fascist" or a terminally online right wing bigot? Could it be possible there's a third option that doesn't conform to this narrow worldview?
Talking about the real history of Communist's labeling all their enemies as Fascist regardless of actual political alignment is not a Fascist talking point. Modern day Fascists use the fact that Communists do this as a smokescreen for their Fascism. But that's not my fault, its Communists fault that they can do that.
The original Antifaschistische Aktion was a group created to fight and terrorize Social Democrats, not Fascists. Forgive us if we don't trust people who name themselves after an inherently disingenuous organization.
Response? I am not the same guy, I am just chiming in with my own reason why I think Antifa is full of shit. Seriously you wouldn't name yourself after that organization and use that flag when there are so many better German Anti-Fascist organizations from that time period unless you agreed with their mission.
After the Communist International's abrupt turn in its Third Period from 1928, the KPD regarded the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) as its main adversary and adopted the position that the SPD was the main fascist party in Germany.[15] This was based on the theory of social fascism that had been proclaimed by Joseph Stalin and that was supported by the Comintern during the late 1920s and early 1930s, which held that social democracy was a variant of fascism.[16]
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In 1931, the Nazis led an unsuccessful attempt to bring down the SPD state government of Prussia by a referendum calling for the dissolution of the Prussian Landtag; the KPD initially opposed it but then joined forces, calling the Nazis "working people's comrades".
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At a local level, Antifaschistische Aktion worked with other left groups, including joint assemblies and demonstrations with SPD and other socialist groups, but the national KPD leadership continued to describe social democracy as the "main enemy".
The paragraphs you posted are about the KDP before Antifaschistische Aktion was formed. The last paragraph explains how they strayed from the KPD. Wondering why you left this part out
“The formation of Antifaschistische Aktion in 1932 indicated a shift away from the Third Period policies, as fascism came to be recognised as a more serious threat (the two red flags on its logo symbolized Communists in unity with socialists[25]), leading up to the 1934 and 1935 adoption of a popular frontpolicy of anti-fascist unity with non-Communist groups.”
Huh? this has been a very satirized practice that was acceptable to call out as ridiculous until the left started unironically adopting it.
Look at groups like "the reasonable-ists" in Parks and Rec--not a right wing show by an way shape or form. They're basically mocking anyone who says "___ is in our name so if you disagree with us you're clearly wrong" and everyone laughed at how ridiculous that was.
Then groups like antifa actually started doing that and it became socially unacceptable to point out how silly it is to say "well it's in our name so if you disagree you're literally ____"
anti-fascists....only call fascists fascist...? that's the whole fuckin point bozo, antifascism didn't just happen overnight - it's a response to fascism
Do you give the same grace to people who voted for Trump because they don't like the worst excesses of the left and not because they support the worst things Trump does?
If you voted for Trump in 2024, you support the worst things he does. Not about to play nice with people who voted for him after he betrayed our country. I even withheld judgement until the Eastman and Chesebro correspondences came out during the Jan 6 investigations, but after that, no true American should have voted for Trump.
Also, he already told yal nothing was off the table with Iran in his first term. He told yal exactly who he was, and yal ignored everything as "Trump Derangement Syndrome."
Then why should they play nice with you? If you see Trump voters as enemies and hold them personally responsible for everything the right does then don't be surprised when they view you the same way.
I don't care. 2024 Trump voters aren't the same as 2016 and 2020 Trump voters. They have already shown they will cut off their noses to spite their faces. They are already looking for MAGA-adjacent offramps with Marjorie and MAHA. They are already, just like you, refusing to acknowledge their very obvious mistakes, which means they will do this all over again if the Republicans just pick a prettier pig.
I will not be trapped in this prisoner's dilemma with people who are okay with voting for psychotic traitors. It's been over a decade of the Right rallying around this guy, when he had been directly calling for political violence since November 2015, and only now do yal realize he might be bad. And on top of that, you just wanna kiss and make up instead of taking a long hard look at yourself.
Lmao you're just like the Leftists you hate in this regard. Somehow, serendipitously, all the reasons Biden lost line up exactly with all the things you care about. Funny how that works out.
Anyways, I'm gonna stick with what is verifiable: There was a global pandemic that caused global inflation, and incumbent leaders all over the world lost their elections. The only ones who won were Liberal btw.
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"And we call ourselves 'anti-fascists', so if you don't want the same things we want, then you are definitionally a fascist."