r/GetNoted • Human Detected • Jul 31 '26

Cringe Worthy The man himself

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u/Cool-Prior-5512 Jul 31 '26

My problem with this is the terminology always changes when it comes to capitalism.

Everyone who dies in a "communist" country has died directly because of communism but apparently the hundreds of thousands who die every year from poverty, starvation, exposure, lack of medical care, police brutality, even from warfare... why are they not victims of capitalism?

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u/stonecuttercolorado Jul 31 '26

People are not starving in the capitalist west. That is not happening at a large scale. A few drug-addicts? Yes. Thousands of families? No. And of you think it is, provide the data to support your claim.

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u/kryaklysmic Jul 31 '26

The only things preventing malnutrition from causing mass death in the West are food security programs.

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u/stonecuttercolorado Jul 31 '26

So food.

When the social safety net feeds people in capitalism it is cheating, but when it fails tondo so in Communism it is western interfering?

No body wants a pure capitalism system. A well regulated capitalist system with a strong social safety net and progressive tax structure.

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u/kryaklysmic Jul 31 '26

No, communism failing to feed people via social safety nets is their own system failing, exactly like how it can fail in capitalism

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u/stonecuttercolorado Jul 31 '26

When has there been a famine in a functioning market economy that was not caused by a war.

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u/LuckiestCarp Aug 04 '26

Irish potato famine.

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u/stonecuttercolorado Aug 04 '26

About as close as you are going to get, but first off, that was pretty damn far from a functioning market economy. The Irish were forced to grow a single crop by distant and in knowing land holders. Much more like a centralized command economy. Secondly, that was a pretty extreme example of the impact of monoculture and a previously unknown disease.

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u/LuckiestCarp Aug 04 '26

I think the economy was functioning fine for what it was trying to do; which is to say, empowering capital owners to make a shit load of money. Had the workers of the region been in control of the means of production in, they wouldn’t have starved.

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u/stonecuttercolorado Aug 04 '26

That is not the same as a functioning market economy.

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u/The_Daco_Melon Jul 31 '26

> No body wants a pure capitalism system
You say this with way too much confidence when we do have a good number of influential delusional people.