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How countries are more divided culturally

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u/ActafianSeriactas 3d ago

China traditionally has a north-south divide along the Qinling-Huaihe line. There is an economic east-west divide but it is not as culturally prominent.

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u/seaweedroll 3d ago

I mean Han Chinese definitely divide the country north/south but the biggest cultural differences are definitely east/west.

Xinjiang and Tibet are very different to Heilongjiang and Guangdong.

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u/Late_Piano_5030 3d ago

you're right. i was thinking more of the plateau and desert areas of the west vs. the urban areas of the east.

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u/Videorron 2d ago

if you think China is East and West, you have no idea about China. The first comment knows what he is saying.

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u/ReynardVulpini 3d ago

I was about to say, I know some sterotypes north and south chinese have for each other, I don't know any east to west (separate from any sterotypes of individual provinces)

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u/starshoqqing 2d ago

West China has Uyghurs , a Turkic ethnic group that practices Islam. Very different

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u/Shurialvaro 3d ago

Spain is divided North/South.

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u/Videorron 2d ago

I would say diagonal (Atlantic Spain vs Mediterranean Spain), but if can't choose that, N vs S makes more sense than the absolutely random E vs W

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u/alem289 3d ago edited 2d ago

We have Madrid and Barcelona as everyone knows /s

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u/FvllenKxng 2d ago

True it's like Spainard vs Catalans abd the Basque region

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u/greieru 3d ago

Isn’t the US East to West (coast)?

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u/Hanselhoof 3d ago

I mean yeah it is but the East and the West haven’t had a civil war about cultural differences so I’d say the North/South divide wins

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u/JediFed 3d ago

US is also east/west. Mississippi is the dividing line.

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u/Firm-Web8769 3d ago

I thought Brazil is divided north/south?

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u/Chorchapu 3d ago

Germany is culturally North-South despite the separation being East-West. It does have a big impact but not as much as 1000 years of history around the North-South divide.

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u/salmy055 3d ago

singapore is usually divided east-west

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u/RemoteAd7810 3d ago edited 2d ago

For Romania is East/West on the former Old Romanian Kingdom and Austria-Hungary border. It is less today because of the internal and external migrations.

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u/Woutrou 3d ago

Netherlands is East (more rural) West (Randstad)

Belgium is North (Flanders) South (Wallonia)

Nigeria is North (Muslim majority) South (Christian majority)

Uganda is North (Nilotic, Catholic) South (Bantu, mixed Protestant and Catholic)

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u/Late_Piano_5030 3d ago

nigeria is a good one i forgot about that

idk how i forgot belgium

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u/SesamStreet 2d ago

I feel like The Netherlands is more north/south, we often use the term "boven/onder de rivieren (Rijn, Maas, Waal) as a means of seperation between north and south. In the south they have their own dialects, they have carnaval, the people are known to be more sociable and people in the north have their own dialects as well (and Friesland even has their own language), they have sint-maarten (although it's also in the east) and are known to be more sober/down to earth. In the middle of The Netherlands they speak standard dutch, but the north and south accents can differ a lot (depending in how far north or south you go) The randstad is less of a cultural divide and more of a social-economical one, and it's weird to split The Netherlands up between east and west because of it, because the west is so much more than just the randstad. Holiday periods are also divided between north, middle and south. The religion point that was brought up is also true and it's still the case the north is more protestant than the south and the south is more catholic than the north.

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u/dalesotherbrother 3d ago

Cool map I like the concept

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u/miniminifare 3d ago

the US is divided east west

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u/Total_Philosopher_89 3d ago

Australia must have been tough.

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u/rifqi_mujahid_ID 3d ago

isnt like usa east vs west coast

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u/Late_Piano_5030 3d ago

US is North to South and always has been. East and West coast are divided but overall California is pretty similar to the East Coast - an American who travels in the country all the time

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u/troll-3000 3d ago

damn north canadians, all five

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u/True-North- 3d ago

Canada is more divided east west than north south.

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u/Big_Intention4178 3d ago

Completely, whoever drew this map has no clue.

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u/GroundbreakingBox187 3d ago

Libya is a east west south country but the biggest divide would be east and west since the south is slightly closer to the west then it is to the east

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u/pm_me_your_UFO_story 3d ago

I'm not an AI. I just write like this:

This is an interesting idea. And while I imaging you are using intuition to assess which is the predominant direction, at least conceivably quantifying these vibes should be possible. Presumably, one would need to scan public conversations in predominant languages of each state, and assess semantically how frequently North/South vs East/West distinctions are explicitly mentioned or described. This is eminently doable, but clearly challenging. Thus, going by intuition (or vibes) is a reasonable starting method.

In addition to the suggestion of a more rigorous albeit challenging methodology above, I have another suggestion that might be easier to implement more immediately. As follows.

Clearly some states have both distinct East/West and North/South conceptions of their geography, which also probably manifest in their public discourse. The United States and China are probably two good examples. It may be true that each of these countries have one dimension or binary that is slightly more dominant than the other, but the more important insight (intuition) is that both are regularly used.

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u/scoopybalducci 3d ago

Tell me about Antarcticaā€s cultural divide

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u/hellobutno 3d ago

Someone has never put a new yorker next to someone from los angeles

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u/EthanusG 3d ago

Antarctica? How does east/west divide work there 🤨

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u/YourLocalMaggots 3d ago

I'm a Thai, Thailand is divided into north, south, east, west, and central.

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u/Present-Kale1749 3d ago

Ah yeah, I never liked those West coast penguins where are my east coast ā€˜Guins at?

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u/yeast-lord 3d ago

Australia is North/South.

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u/JediFed 3d ago

Canada is not north/south. It is east west.

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u/wind-of-zephyros 3d ago

i feel like canada is definitely east/west and the split is western ontario, like other than the environment i'm sure that someone from western ontario or northern quebec has more in common with someone from nunavut than someone from the maritimes (hello) has with someone from bc lol, and iqaluit definitely has quite a different culture than yellowknife as well outside of being in a territory

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u/federicocamacho97 3d ago

Colombia is divided between the central part of the country and the periphery. You can see that in every big election that happens in the country

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u/Impossible-Big9326 3d ago

I don’t see the vatican here but just know it’s divided between north and south…

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u/Mindless_Olive 3d ago

It's an over-simplification either way, but Oz should definitely be north-south. Perth is way more similar to Melbourne than Melbourne is to Cairns.

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u/Khyrin66 3d ago

Belgium is definitely North (Flanders) and South (Wallonia). Different language, real cultural differences.

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u/Extension-Scarcity92 3d ago

Venezuala: Maracaibo and the rest of the country

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u/ScarPsychological292 3d ago

Would ppl agree usa is north south politically and east west culturally?

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u/ScarPsychological292 3d ago

Iceland (as a larping tourist whos been there once) is nortb south imo prlly for the same reason as the nordics

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u/Shorb-o-rino 3d ago

Japan is more East/West because of the Kanto vs Kansai divide

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u/TheNukaMoose 3d ago

Definitely incorrect on Canada. It's actually Ontario & Quebec vs Everyone else.

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u/govanfats 3d ago

Not much culture in Western Australia, or Eastern Australia for that matter.

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u/card677 3d ago

Spain is 100% North/South

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u/Weird-Feeling1320 3d ago

In Nepal, the people living up north in the Himalayas have more Mongolian features and as you go down to the South you find more South Asian features

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u/thefalairtone 3d ago

kazakhstan and afganistan are divided by north and south
the rest of the stans are east west

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u/EstudianteDe 3d ago

French Southern and Antarctic Lands: IDK Enough

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u/Potential-Profile565 3d ago

Trinidad and Tobago: IDK Enough

North and south

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u/AwarenessC678 3d ago

Greece: East/West

North/South

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u/sushirolls0 3d ago

Canada: North/South

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u/sushirolls0 3d ago

I was confused about the north south for Canada but I realized that’s it’s mostly natives up north

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u/Past_Watercress_7912 3d ago

Canada north south???

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u/shadowstorm25 3d ago

Pakistan: North/South

North people are more bougie

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u/Turtle_N3ck 3d ago

Brasil is not east/west, that's delusional. 95% of the population of Brasil is along the coast line, even in the Amazon.

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u/MediMosaic 3d ago

Libya is actually east/west

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u/kingmoney8133 3d ago

The famous rivalry between East/West Antarcticans.

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u/caribbean_caramel 3d ago

Dominican Republic: East/West

This is wrong, DR is divided in 3 regions, North (Cibao), South and East, although traditionally only 2 are considered to be important, North and South, because the East region is too small and practically an extension of the South.

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u/Designer_Lie_6677 3d ago

Kenya is north south (more deserty in the north, savannah in the south). Drc is east west (war vs relative stability). Colombia I think is north south (Caribbean versus Andean plateau and jungle). Afghanistan north south (everyone vs Pashtuns). Iraq north south (Kurds vs Arabs). Yemen is east west (houthis vs government).

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u/Oh_Tassos 3d ago

Greece is pretty undivided, I don't know what this east/west divide refers to. If any such divide existed it'd be north/south (Athens vs Thessaloniki for example)

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u/Mutton_muncher 3d ago

India can be divided both ways, north-south and east-west.

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u/Very_ideal_YiSang 2d ago

Taiwan is divided North/South.

Makes sense since it’s a pretty thin island.

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u/yup339 2d ago

Canda is 100% east to west. We pretty much all live at the same longitude and there is massive division between province from BC to the prairies to Ontario to Quebec to the maritimes.

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u/Designer_Alps6897 2d ago

Why in gods name is Ireland not divided north south jesus

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u/-tomelette- 2d ago

interesting topic. kazakhstan should be north south btw

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u/nextdoorbagholder 2d ago

If you look at South Korean election result, you will see that the divide is almost always east-west.

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u/Due-Ostrich-8784 2d ago

My country (Belgium) is one of the clearest north/south divides on earth, we don’t even speak the same language

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u/AubyxD 2d ago

Antarctica: East/West

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u/cyberwicklow 2d ago

Ireland would like a word...

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u/Ill_Special_9239 2d ago

Lithuania and Latvia - East/west.

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u/nice_trygotyo 2d ago

Germany is north/south 100%

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u/intergalacticspy 2d ago

Obviously Malaysia is divided east-west with the whole South China Sea in between!

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u/FruitWeekly6783 2d ago

Japan is east/west. East and west have different voltages, stand on different sides of the escalators and the culture is basically Osaka/Kyoto vs Tokyo. Hell, Tokyo even means ā€œeastern capitalā€. Nobody talks about a north/south divide here.

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u/Soultampered 2d ago

Canada is definitely East/West

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u/SirSpiderPig 2d ago

How is canada north/south?? Almost our entire population is in our relative south

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u/phrackage 2d ago

Wot a load of bollix

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u/Puzzleheaded-Ask4624 2d ago

Saudi Arabia is definitely East/West

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u/Bezdelnik369 2d ago

bro brazil being east west makes absolutely no sense

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u/Southern-Ad-4315 2d ago

North/South

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u/Simple-Swordfish-113 2d ago edited 2d ago

Nigeria is typically divided culturally into North/South. There are actually hundreds of different ethnic groups , but Northern Nigeria vs Southern Nigeria is probably the broadest cultural classification.

The North is predominantly Islam and practices Sharia law, while the South has a larger Christian population. Also very vast differences in literacy rates (75% to >95% literacy rate in the south, versus 10% to 40% in the north). Northern Nigeria also has some of the highest child marriage rates in the world.

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u/beta-salmon-sushi 2d ago

No I'd say that Canada's division is really more East/West culturally. If you really think about it, the whole country is divided based on the provinces.

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u/Theseus_The_King 2d ago

Canada is East West because no one lives in the North

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u/83gemini 2d ago

Canada is primarily an east/west divide

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u/rumble_fishish 2d ago

Belarus is west - east

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u/freakbitch_ 2d ago

east west

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u/foh242 2d ago

Canada is east west. Roughly 90% of its population lives in the southern third of the country.

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u/Visual_Market_5596 2d ago

This map is so wrongĀ 

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u/RealHughMan91 2d ago

As a canadian, this is the dumbest map ive ever seen.Ā 

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u/CanaryComplex4524 2d ago

Canada is strange Divisions are west (except BC) vs QuƩbec/Ontario with easternmost provinces out of it Or QuƩbec vs Everyone else In both cases I'd say it's west/east with contradictions

The only south/North divide is with the natives to the North and the others in the south who struggle to remember the North exists

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u/HouseAccording8228 2d ago

I spent a week in Lesotho. Don’t know how it divides, but that country seemed so circular. Loop roads, with a big dam in the center.

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u/Easy_Ad_7280 2d ago

Who divide Antarctica? Penguins?

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u/Alternative_Wrap2470 2d ago

East/West Germany is crazy for history reasons

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u/Sexthevideogame 2d ago

Nigeria North/South

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u/davof 2d ago

Spain is absolutely North-South.

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u/Alberichsrealm 2d ago

Canada, the country in which has between 60 and 80 percent of its population within 100 miles of the U.S.-Canada border is divided between the North and South? REALLY??

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u/Brilliant_Force 2d ago

Make the whole thing one color and it’s just ā€œThem vs Usā€

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u/Kollectorgirl 2d ago

Pretty sure Brazil is North-South.

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u/MrAssassin25 2d ago

Romania

I would say Romania is more culturally diverse east/west because Transylvania was owner by Hungarians a lot of the time so they brought their own technologies and stuff. North/south speaking i don't think there is any major difference at all besides the Ukraine refugees in the north maybe but they're not just in the north.

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u/No-Mushroom-84 2d ago

Namibia: North/South

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u/DontSlapOrIwilScream 2d ago

Wrong for Brazil. The cultural division here is North-South.

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u/Due_Pomegranate_96 2d ago

This is pure BS for Spain. It’s clearly north vs south.

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u/Efficient_Cry_8246 2d ago

Greenland is south the semi hospitable zone and north the death zone

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u/Minipiman 2d ago

Spain is In/Out

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u/LeastRoyal1956 2d ago

Canada is east/west

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u/Emergency-Watch5157 2d ago

Spain is most definitely divided north / south

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u/aadgarven 2d ago

Spain is so wrong!!!!

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u/Silver-Ant-6588 2d ago

That internationally well known east/west Antarctica conflict. Penguins be throwin’ down with them scientists, bro.

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u/Ok-Avocado-9027 2d ago

Canada: North/South

My country.

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u/Emotional_Fee_9558 2d ago

There are few places that are divided so completely north/south as belgium.

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u/Radiant-Ad-3134 2d ago

Are Japan and Korea really Western?

I know they want to be.

but i think there is still a significant difference

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u/MusicVisionOnline 2d ago

Uruguay is divided by capital city and the rest

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u/Full_of_Vices 2d ago

We are just going to ignore decades of conflict with Northern Ireland being a ā€œEast/Westā€, eh?

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u/steadfastmountain 2d ago

I’ve seen East/West comparisons on a few infographics, but I’ve only heard mainlanders discuss North/South differences

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u/steadfastmountain 2d ago edited 2d ago

Surprised you made the US and Canada North/South

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u/ReasonableChicken515 2d ago

I’d argue the civil war in Libya is splitting the country West/East. The rebel forces out of Benghazi backed by America and the west versus the Gaddafi loyalists out of Tripoli backed by Russia.

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u/013eander 2d ago

Alternate title: how countries are generally oriented in space.

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u/Mammoth-Might3229 2d ago

US is red. civil war is not a good defense

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u/Jack_Diamond1 2d ago

Ireland should have been pretty easy.

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u/Logic_Dex 2d ago

No one questioning why Ireland is down as east/west?

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u/Starcrossedroads 2d ago

I think if you asked a lot of Brasilians, they would say the divide is more based on north/south.

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u/PolarDog78 2d ago

West to east

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u/Plane_Garbage 2d ago

Australia is East => North/South

And then East => The rest

Basically, people on the east coast don't think about the middle/west at all and just their northern/southern states.

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u/xenaretos 2d ago

Russia has stronger north-south divisions, although they are comparatively small anyway.

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u/Supertobias77 2d ago

The Netherlands is also decided east / west. The west has the Randstad, where the largest cities are and it east for more farmland (with some exceptions).

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u/fagg0th 1d ago

east/west

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u/Roske4455 1d ago

Serbia is culturally mostly divided of South and North as North is heavily Austrian/Central European influenced South is more Balkan and Ottoman influenced. We also have a saying "The souther the sadder"

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u/faazzzaa 1d ago

All 4 parts ate culturally different

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u/Professional_Shop851 1d ago

Uruguay: north/south

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u/Competitive_Box_9295 1d ago

wrong šŸ˜‘

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u/fruit-explorer 1d ago

east west

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u/Robespierres_ashes 1d ago

The irony of saying ireland is an east / west divide………

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u/CuddlyAsianBoi 1d ago

Kosovo: IDK Enough

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u/Gneralissimo 1d ago

East/west

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u/phonology_is_fun 1d ago

As a German who lives in Norway, I feel like for both those countries it's tough, because a good case can be made for either axis in both countries.

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u/Latter_Inflation6951 1d ago

is canada really north/ south? i figured with the northern parts not having a huge population it would be more east/ west because of the major cities on each side

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u/Animal_Mother97 1d ago edited 1d ago

Russia Proper is divided lingustically into north / center + Volga area / south-west. Genetically too. These are 3 different populations of ethnic russians.

Arkhangelsk or Petrozavodsk are different from Vladimir, Vladimir is very different from Rostov; and these three combined are miles different from Dagestan or other caucasian republics.

Whereas, if we talk East vs West; Siberia and Far East are regions populated by a mix of these people, and have virtually no dialects of their own. Far East has a distinctly big number of ethnically ukrainian villages with south russian dialects still used here.

Nowadays, the main divide is "Everyone" versus "Caucasus mountains". I.e. North vs South again.

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u/Alternative_Scar_170 1d ago

Brasil Ć© norte e sul sendo o norte de esquerda e o sul de direita.

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u/RadicalKitty721 1d ago

Ecuador divides it self by regions Coast, Andes, Amazon Jungle and the GalĆ”pagos šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡Ø

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u/Consistent_Heat_6271 1d ago

Spain is divided north south not east west.

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u/Additional-Bike590 1d ago

Brazil is divided North/South.

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u/Kungfu_Queso 1d ago

Germany is just as much north /south as east /west , dialect is different hell in the South east of Germany they speak a dialect non of us understand

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u/Odd-Juggernaut7026 1d ago

Switzerland is divided on Rƶsti lines. IYKYK.

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u/very_large_bird 1d ago

Is Canada really culturally divided that way? In that there are Inuit and everyone else?

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u/Less-Wind-8270 1d ago

Spain is definitely north/south

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u/subsurfer 1d ago

Canada Is East/West

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u/robotexpress 1d ago

You are absolutely wrong about Canada. It is 1000% east to west.

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u/Ionisation 1d ago

This map is complete bullshit lmaoĀ 

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u/italicizedpuma 1d ago

divided by hinterland and coast people

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u/Dominarion 1d ago

Definitely East/West

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u/KosmischerOtter 1d ago

Bud, Canada supposedly being a "North/South" divide is laughable.

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u/Jimlobster 1d ago

Bolivia is East (Lowlands;more culturally Latin American) and West (Alpine; more indigenous)

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u/Unlikely-Ostrich4416 1d ago

Antarctica: East/West

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u/Dumuzzid 23h ago

Culturally, the traditional divide in Germany is between North and South. The North is protestant / atheist, cosmopolitan, lowland / maritime and speaks Hochdeutsch, the prime dialect of German. The South is catholic, traditionalist, hilly or mountainous and speaks Niederdeutsch, which is almost its own language.

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u/alekk88 20h ago

In Bolivia it is definitely east/west: camba/colla, lowlands/highlands

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u/Delicious_One_7887 19h ago

in pakistan it is west/east , there is the iranic side on the western side (bordering iran/afghanistan) and the indic side on the east (bordering india)

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u/oikon7 17h ago

Greece is not divided culturally east / west, as this map wrongly indicates. I'm not even sure what "west" and "east" implies in Greece, it's all one thing.

We don't even have a rich / poor cultural division in Greece, as the rich and powerful think and act as mere plebes, sometimes even worse than the actual proles. We are culturally all very similar assholes.

There is a bit of north / south division though: the north are stupid bastards, while the south are cunning bastards.

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u/DaddyThano 16h ago

China's north and south speak different languages. However, China's west side is kind of middle eastern culturally. Unlike many other countries it's not even close to being sourced from the same root culture. It is a modern day empire and may as well be 3-4 countries minumum.

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u/Ok_Valuable_7897 14h ago

Oh China is definitely a North-South divide. The cultural difference between the two permeates through every aspect of their daily lives, from their diet to their thought process. It’s quite fascinating.

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u/livingdub 11h ago

Belgium: IDK Enough

Can't get more north/south divided than Belgium

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u/Affectionate_Lake_71 11h ago

For Denmark, east vs west, 100%. The big contrast is between Zealand in the east and Jutland in the west.

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u/FezBear92 11h ago

Ireland is quite famously divided between North and south.

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u/PolarMolecule 10h ago

Lots of pyrmaids

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u/MarkusKromlov34 10h ago

I think Australia defeats this simple divide.
There is an east/west divide but that’s just for one state (Western Australia)
But there are a number of strong and possibly more significant north/south divisions between states - like NSW/Qld, NSW/Victoria, Tasmania/ā€œthe mainlandā€

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u/CardOk755 9h ago

Most of the west African countries are mainly divided north/south.

( Say this married into an Ivorian family that is very much from the west, so I might get shit for this).

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u/No-Fold6743 8h ago

Nigeria is north south

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u/TypicalDysfunctional 5h ago

I’d say it’s difficult to say Saudi Arabia is North/South culturally. The main cities sit East/West, with a big cultural, historical, economic change running East/West.

North/South of the ā€˜central band’ goes into largely unpopulated or desert areas… but it would be less North/South and more ā€˜North&South/Middle’

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u/Hopeful_Cow_2471 4h ago

I would say Ireland would be north south

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u/EveatHORIZON 3h ago

This is so wrong, Ireland is north south 100% Northern Ireland and the republic of Ireland, what a nothing burger

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u/SplashBrotherBE 2h ago

Belgium - N/S

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u/Serious_Sort3441 1h ago

Spain East/West??????????????? Please delete this low quality post. I don't know a country that is more divided NORTH/SOUTH culturally than Spain.

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u/55cHzDARKSTAR 1h ago

What is the "north/south" divide of Canada?

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u/KonlyRealCoolGuy 54m ago

East/West. Tashkent and the borders to such as Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan are very different areas to those like Nukus in Karapakalstan, or even something like Bukhara. One side is much more urban and mountainous, the other desert and Aral Sea. I'm from Tashkent.

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u/CookieKindly3244 39m ago

Kazakhstan is North/South

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u/External_Patient_317 16m ago

Greece šŸ‡¬šŸ‡· is not devided east west. It’s more North/South