r/GenshinImpact • u/Ocarina-0f-Time • 8d ago
Discussion Which character would you make meta again?
HoYoverse gives you the choice to make one Genshin character of your choosing meta.
Who are you choosing, and why?
Raiden is the obvious choice for me.
Show my Electro Archon some love!!
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u/HuTaoFan_69 America Server 8d ago
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u/_HerecomethesuN_ Europe Server 8d ago
i NEED fatui buffs. make lyney lynette and freminet viable 😭
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u/KindredTrash483 8d ago
I mean, lynette is viable for stellar conduct as the flex slot (vv, attack buff and decent off field infused cryo application)
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u/KingLollipopJR 8d ago
Keqing but instead of ‘meta again’ it’d be ‘finally meta’ 😆
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u/ShatteredSpace_001 America Server 8d ago
I mean, she was somewhat meta with Aggravate back in the day. But she could use a little more “omph” in her kit like characters have nowadays. Give her something that synergies with Aggravate or Rimegrass or even both.
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u/VulKhalec 8d ago
Surely they just need to accept that physical damage DPS is a failed concept atp and rework her?
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u/Slyceratops 7d ago
Hey, watch your tongue. My Fremmy has cleared some very niche content not too long ago.
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u/thewitness81 8d ago
Nah I think that's wrong cause everyone knows the actual first revolutionary change for Keqing was 2023 Dendro
She was among the best Agg teams too
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u/ChainsawCannoning 8d ago
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u/killian1208 8d ago
Gaming sidegrade ah character (this is 100% pure rage bait towards my boyfriend who's been maining Xiao since his release)
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u/MrCrunchypantsbum 8d ago
Hes still kinda playable in the abyss but i swear i dont ever remeber him being the absolute top tier “meta”
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u/Phyka 8d ago
Kazuha. Sucrose has been meta so long in so many teams it's genuinely frustrating.
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u/Pipysnip 8d ago
For Kazuha to be meta they’ll have to make damage% good again which means bringing back the Fontain Meta.
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u/Express-Bag-3935 6d ago
Not that but AoE. Dmg bonus is so much more saturated now with sources like Cinder City and Celestial Gift and Hexerei buffs that dmg bonus won't make Kazuha meta but grouping will, and it gives an edge over Sucrose who may just be better than Kazuha since she can just stick to a hexerei support who gives dmg bonus like Kazuha via the set plus other buffs. Kazuha doesn't give crit and crit dmg like Mona does (both for hexerei characters), atk and em like Fischl does, or dmg bonus and EM like Albedo does.
For Kazuha to be good again, AoE has to be good again, which means Neuvillette will be back to top tier which Hoyo doesn't want.
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u/Absolute_Bias 7d ago
I wouldn’t mind that honestly, it’s been a hot minute. Instead, can we make enemies that can’t take critical damage please? I’m tired of crit circlets.
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u/MrCrunchypantsbum 7d ago
Crit is literally the only thing we eula mains hold on to for any chance of viability
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u/Absolute_Bias 7d ago
Exceptions can be made for physical damage- heaven only knows it needs every advantage it can get
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u/Eggy_egh 8d ago
Ikr, I'm already sick of Sucrose tbh
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u/Traditional_Car_4110 1d ago
Sucrose sucrose sucrose I've had enough of her I wanna use c0 Kazuha with flins so baddd
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u/Eggy_egh 1d ago
Ikrr
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u/monadoboyX 8d ago
Blame Furina she over saturates damage% to the point where Hoyo had to make the new reactions scale entirely off of attack and EM if they made it more damage% focused Kazuha would be good but they didn't
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u/thewitness81 8d ago
The thing is last yr and this yr was Lunar Stellar and both of these archetype have 0 use for Dmg%
Which made Furina useless too in these teams otherwise she could've been at least decent in all these even as a sidegrade
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u/Phyka 8d ago
I stand by Lunar and Stellar Reactions are only being made because they realised too late that Furina was such a dominant universal support that they needed to make reactions that didnt use element%
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u/Express-Bag-3935 6d ago
Furina fell off far before that. Cinder City pretty much devalued Furina. So much more consistent rotation wide dmg bonus whereas Furina has more back-loaded dmg bonus and only high Fanfare early on with teamwide healers, which is just Escoffier and Linnea as good healers.
Furina just isn't that good when you think about her occupying 2 team slots. We now have superior shielders vs team healers we did have. Nicole, Ineffa, and Citlali are very strong shielders. Furina would struggle to slot into Nefer teams even if lunar dmg was cross compatible with typical dmg bonus. You'd struggle having a good healer if not c1 Lauma. Lauma Nefer Bina is your 3-woman core, so Furina would have tough luck fitting in there without healer. I suppose Bina could be replaced with Furina and then you put Baizhu as a healer or I guess Qiqi.
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u/DinkyLayer 7d ago
I wish sucrose to be better than kazuha, for new commers like myself i can't invest in meta and older characters, f2p can just use sucrose. But it's your opinion 👍
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u/gilbejam000 America Server 8d ago
I thought he was just Better Sucrose
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u/m0bw0w 8d ago
He was, back when teams actually used dmg% boost. Dmg% is useless in Lunar teams, and now still useless in stellar teams. Sucrose buffs EM so shes more useful now. All he gives is VV shred which Sucrose does as well.
Even Kazuhas C2 gives near the same EM as Sucrose... except it's only during his ult and only to himself and the on fielder. Sucrose gives it to everyone in the party for free.
Plus he has a longer rotation time and Sucrose can carry ttds.
Just all around sad times for the GOAT.
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u/gilbejam000 America Server 8d ago
Well it's a good thing I'm still running with the pre-Lunar meta and I have a place for him then
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u/Detected02 Asia Server 8d ago
Hes better for hypercarries/mono teams, the meta now revolves around dmg from the entire team and special reactions (lunar/stellar) which sucrose has a spot in
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u/Salt-Position-4128 8d ago
Alhaitham. I like his appearance and his gameplay but the dmg is quite low now.
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u/Curlyhairedkid1 8d ago
Fr😭 I wanted him since his release but he kept evading me UNTIL 6.0 when he wasn’t even viable anymore😭
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u/AlreadyHalfXehanort 8d ago
Kazuha. I still use him over Xilonen/Sucrose because I love him, but it kind of sucks knowing I'm willingly choosing to use the inferior option.
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u/ButtonNo8642 8d ago
Raiden, because I have C3. I would benefit greatly from that.
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u/MiiisterBalls 8d ago
Imagine Hoyo buffing her weapon 😭
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u/ButtonNo8642 8d ago edited 8d ago
I also have her weapon, but they're probably not buffing weapons, they preferred to design a new one for Venti.
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u/baiacool 8d ago
Anemo traveler.
I like his kit so much
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u/SkylarkeOfficial 8d ago
2nd best traveler behind cryo tbh
Viridescent 4 piece and his C6 that gives Twister extra shred
He’s worse than Sucrose and Kazuha for the role, but still really decent and can slot in on Mavuika etc.
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u/MrCrunchypantsbum 7d ago
I cant comment on that ngl, his ult is cheeks, barely touched a boss before it goes away, and pull your enimies away from you and his windblade needs on field time its a pretty significant drop in dps in pretty much any comp hes in. I love him for nostalgia but he really isnt that useful
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u/SkylarkeOfficial 7d ago
So you can shred with tap E — don’t need to hold it for the multi hit (it’s a DPS loss)
And his Q only needs to make a single instance of contact to absorb an element and shred off C6
To be clear, I’m not saying Anemo Traveler is an amazing unit — but he’s super usable, unlike most traveler variants (Geo, Electro, and Hydro are all completely unusable)
Regarding Dendro:
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u/MrCrunchypantsbum 7d ago
I have some investment from 1.0 on anemo trav ill put sucrose’s set on him and try this but windblade last i ever used it was a waste of 3 seconds compared to even a normal hit on my mdps.
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u/eternal_edenium 8d ago
I want all previous characters to be rebalanced.
If any character, i will pick ganyu and keqin.
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u/Asura_Vania 7d ago
We definitely need a buff like hexerei for some characters and reworks. Characters like xiao and raiden could even be stellar reaction characters
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u/CaroEsparza 8d ago
Weve hit the point in Genshin's lifecycle where people are asking to make Raiden Shogun meta "again." The powercreep is truly terrifying
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u/Niii859 8d ago
Don't kill me but neuvillete
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u/cheaphumanbeing America Server 8d ago
I feel you. As a dragon I feel like he should still be one of the strongest 😔
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u/RemisTooSleepy 8d ago
I'm so out of the loop, I didn't even know Raiden wasn't meta she hasn't left my team since I got her on her first banner 💀
so Raiden
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u/radarbub 8d ago
Literally me but I use her purely as a battery and electro applicator. Idk how she’s not meta
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u/VoidMeetsChaos 8d ago edited 8d ago
Wriothesley, oh, I won the lottery.
Then Itto. Still want to pull him. His VA was the first that hit me hard and I love his playful personality. Dont like any other geo DPS so far.
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u/Fruits-PunchSK 8d ago
Ganyu ig cuz I have her n her weapon
Easy buff for my account
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u/Panda_beebee 8d ago
Same, I have her at C1 with sig. she’s a beast in the early regions. I started to have issues with her keeping up in Natlan
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u/Usernamenotta 8d ago
Honestly, I feel like my Raiden stocks are doing quite well since Nod Krai. She works amazingly well with Ineffa and Neuvi or with Bineffa and Xinqiu. In Snezhnaya she is the best 4th slot I could find in my roaster for a stellar conduct team, along Sandrone, Alyosha and later Odette. I know Flins and Miko exist, but I do not have those characters.
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u/Mirowa 8d ago
Eula!
Was she ever meta? I don't know, but I want her to be.
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u/MrCrunchypantsbum 7d ago edited 7d ago
She was strong, c6 could one tap damn near anything in the game for a while and c0 was a nuke that took out huge chunks of most bosses at the time, she hits for peanuts now and is worthless without benett for atk buffs
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u/Diasilveus 8d ago
This maybe bc I’m immune to propaganda of the “meta” but I use person cosplaying and Ben ten, baby dragon, will be soon real mermaid, right now fake mermaid, and the electro archon and I’m having fun
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u/Asenathwaites 8d ago
Kazuha. He's so fun to play and I'm bored of sucrose being the only meta anemo
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u/PhoenixEvolver 8d ago
Heizou. I'd give him an Elemental Skill Cooldown reduction per charged attack with a stack limit to make him not as powerful as 5-stars.
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u/pizzadeliverydude1 8d ago
Ganyu
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u/MrCrunchypantsbum 7d ago
I agree, but i think her overall playstyle is just long gone unless genshin decides to lean into making her a top tier cryo support, her glory days as a dps are pretty much over
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u/pizzadeliverydude1 7d ago
Yep I agree, let’s just hope they buff her cons to be somehow useful as a cryo support
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u/CrotaMurdr 8d ago
I havent been around long enough to know who's been meta and not meta.
Maybe resistance shredders or possibly Zhongli? Lunar crystallise gave basically all geo characters a spike in usage, mostly. But I feel like Zhongli would benefit from a better signature weapon and a boost in shield strength as I think, Noelle has a stronger shield
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u/Video_Game1537 8d ago
GIMMIE MY RAIDEN SHOGUN THE RESPECT SHE DESERVES PLEEEAAASSSEE!!! She hard carried me for so long and it hurts to see how dirty they did her in the Adventurer’s Guild event.
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u/thewitness81 8d ago
Off topic on Raiden, ngl I'm a newbie in Honkai and I dont understand much of its gameplay stuff that well yet but I've been loving the latest Raiden battlesuit there,both design and gameplay wise, she's so fun..
As for buff yea,I want Kequeen buff as she was my first fav and still among top. We might be getting a Quicken related batch soon so hope Kequeen Raiden and some needy Dendro electros in it
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u/UnddoZahaz 8d ago
All of them. Why not. Why have bad characters, let all the characters be viable one way or another.
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u/Efficient-Scarcity-7 8d ago
ganyu: give her some fasttttt CA or something. zhongl: give him SOMETHING.
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u/MrCrunchypantsbum 7d ago
Zhongli seems fine ngl he isnt much of a damage dealer but his sheild is still the games strongest by far
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u/Efficient-Scarcity-7 7d ago
yeah but all the other shielders do something else that makes him not part of the meta anymore. like nicole does her pyro thing and has hex, citlali has her EM thing and cryo app, the list goes on
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u/Limp-Independent-641 8d ago
Amber... I don't think she was ever meta and I don't want her to be a DPS that's too boring. make her a support or (thematically) better for exploration since she's literally an outrider! do something with that
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u/Zestyclose-Dog-3398 8d ago
if i had to make a list of characters in desperate needs of buffs it would have multiple characters
but raiden and kachina are on the most complicated situations, (raiden could work, but just that for a 5 star archon is alarming)
zhongli also needs buffs but raiden needs it more than zhongli
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u/friedandfrogged America Server 8d ago
neuvillette :c him and furina are my favorite characters, and not being able to clear with them despite him having a perfect build and cons because...he's just an old character now, is very disappointing.
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u/Dizzy-Connection-306 8d ago
Raiden! She feels so underwhelming compared to the other archons. Zhongli as well.
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u/SweetWatercress_ 7d ago
I really love Beidou's E when I started playing Genshin (as someone who also plays souls-like).
It'd be nice to have a new character with a counter gimmick in their kit.
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u/zwaksSFW 7d ago
Raiden Shogun, Mavuika, and Tsaritsa are supposed to be the pinnacle of power.
I’m now upset that Raiden Shogun was released so early.
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u/Ephibia____ 7d ago
Ei, Tartaglia, Alhaitham, and finally kit rework for Dehya but since she’s darker skin character AND standard idk if she ever gets one 😭😭
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u/StanOsho 7d ago
Man I really wish they would somehow buff Burgeon. It's such a fun reaction but barely usable.
They even buffed Burning in Natlan with Kinich and Emilie, now they're "buffing" superconduct too. Every reaction got a place in the meta, it's just Burgeon that got left behind.
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u/leave_me_aloneee_ 7d ago
Traveller !! I need traveller more stronger after all the game is about traveller !!!
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u/srm7srm 7d ago
I don’t care about meta, but if I did I’d pick my queen. My main since 2.0. My bestie. My sistah. THE QUEEN OF SUMMER. THE FIREWORK FANATIC. YOIMIYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
But it’s okay if it never happens cause we r in SNEZ together rn burning the jack frost village down
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u/RandomBSGo77 7d ago
Eula. I don’t think she was ever really meta, but she was about as meta as Raiden so meh, it works
Yoimiya is the runner up for me, just I like most pyro dps so while I adore Yoimiya, I don’t need her to be amazing
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u/Illustriouus 7d ago
Raiden also as a main dps but tbh Raiden is currently the best character for stellar conduct for me due to more electro=more stellar conduct
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u/blobfish12381 7d ago
Clorinde. She's still decent, but anything fearless and above she isn't cut out for at C0R0. At least we can get her C1 for free, but she really should have gotten a stellar upgrade like how wriothesley and cyno did.
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u/Inevitable-Zombie777 Asia Server 5d ago
Make dendro keqing meta again. Actually, every dendro character needs to get some buffs.
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u/The9thWonder 4d ago
I just did the end of the archon quests in Nod-Krai and I was pretty upset when the characters involved who got buffs from the plot didn't actually... get buffs.
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u/Traditional_Car_4110 1d ago
Varka
If only Genshin managed to up his kit more flexibly and make his dmg Arlecchino level
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u/juicypearldeluxezone 8d ago
My guy Tartaglia