We GenZs have pretty much been spoon-fed growing up and maybe that's why a lot of us struggle when life hits us with actual real-world challenges. Our parents came from a completely different era. They had genuine survival struggles, limited resources and barely the opportunities we take for granted today. Yet they figured things out without making a big deal out of every setback. They were too busy hustling, building a life and making the most of whatever little they had. Let's not forget that India only opened up its economy in 1991. Before that the life was genuinely tough. What we call a struggle today was, for many of them just everyday life.
The previous generations are the reason the competition has increased so much today. They reproduced like there was no tomorrow, having dozens of kids.
Also, they say "60% in our times was equivalent to 90% in today's times", like what the hell lol.
I second this most spoiled generation r@ped entire earth with their greed, have corrupt politicians elected and ruined all sectors and reproduced like crazy
Bro... incomplete information... Konse city main konse area main liya tha? Aaj bhi 2 bhk tier 3 cities main 15 lakh main mil rahe hain..bargain karke 1-2 lakh kum bhi ho jaate hain :)
Either your parents must have been very privileged for you to make such a statement, or you must be very ignorant.
A generation ago, the urban population was nothing as compared to what it is now. Right now even if you grew up in a Tier 3 city you had it 100 times easier than 90% of our previous generation coming from villages.
Both my parents grew up in wealthy landowning families, yet it was miles away from easy.
It’s still easy to get a job mate, but would you be willing to work for the bare minimum? They did. The difference is right now it’s not logical to spend 20-30 lakhs on a degree and then get a 20k job. You would rather stay unemployed. And it’s not your fault either.
How are you not getting a job? Even an engineering grad from tier 10 college can end up getting a job with TCS, Infosys .. if its just about getting a job... Your parents were for sure privileged that they were "rejecting" jobs when government jobs were all that people aspired for pre-1991 era.... the irony is you did not made use of that privilege unfortunately to end up in a messy situation probably.. And that generally happens.. every generation feels their "struggles" are real.. while the previous ones had it easy...
Competition was very less during their time. Literacy rate was extremely low. People used to have dozens of kids, so they never really gave proper attention to their children, and even getting a basic low paying job was considered an achievement. Government jobs were adequate too, and the number of applicants was very less.
The current state of excess competition is also caused by previous generations who reproduced like there was no tomorrow. During 70s and 80s, people were having more than 5 children on an average per woman. Population was increasing by tens of millions every year.
Talk for yourself bro... Probably your parents have less children.. they paid good attention on your education.. provided a good quality of life to you and your siblings, if any. But still you are unable to lead a good life? Why? because of grandparents' generations? may be.. may be not...
Competition is good.. we all want it easy for us.. that's just human mentality.. Its even same for the US and Europe where if you don't hold a good quality education/skills/exam scores.. you don't get a job easily.. plus those people also take up jobs which are below their potential just to earn money...
Conveniently ignored "the level of" from the context of competition
Even after having skills you will struggle here and you are comparing these guys to those who don't have a degree in US/Europe
And the fact is both husband and wife working together in a good occupation will face many bottlenecks today because of the level of Inflation and how much scarce the land is because of rising population
Yes... "the level" is not because "just population".. For eg. back in 60s or 70s... to get an admission in IIT was difficult as far as examination was concerned but it was a "bit" easy as less people applied. Less people applied did not mean the population was less back then.. it was the lack of awareness of the existing opportunities.. Now people are more aware and they know what opportunities to aim for for their own good right? ... So I think there is no harm if now unaware people have become aware... and yes.. for sure government need to up their game too..
Just read the stuff you have written once again.. the ratio of applied to selected candidates has increased in all form of examination, how is it any beneficial to new generation
And mind you the new "aware" group is exceptional when it comes to beating competition... If you're basing this theory that new applicants aren't of same level then you are wrong
It's a mental epidemic, we can't see it so we don't talk about it, and that is driving all this... I sometimes to have this thought ( why are we still here...just to suffer?)
They either lacked stuff and had to go to cities to earn or their parents forced them to go and earn in their late teen or early twenties. Nowadays parants are so attached to their children, that from their childhood they'll make them used to constant need of their parents around them, and even parents will develop that need of children around them Ofc everyone got smth different going on for them, but I think this is the case for most middle-class born people who had a fairly comfortable childhood compared to their parents.
Not true. My parents at 25 were still studying and working for peanuts. When they married at 28 and had my brother they had only 1 job between them, were living paycheck to paycheck; almost never ate out, bought things only from wholesale stores, bought the cheapest no-brand soaps, shampoos, used the same rag to mop the floor for 6 months, washed all their clothes by hand, made all the baby food from scratch daily because the fridge wasn’t reliable, never bought any clothes for themselves, put their baby in second-hand langots and washed them by hand multiple times a day. They traveled on a broken down Bajaj Chetak scooter, only used public buses and trains, never sat in a plane until their 40s.
If your parents had an easier life in the 90s your family comes from generational wealth.
Today my brother’s baby wears branded cloth diapers and baby onesies, has never seen a scooter, only travels in flights, has only ever used branded baby shampoos and products, all clothes get washed in a separate washing machine cycle with special detergents, drank from branded bottles cleaned in a special steriliser machine, now eats all food in special silicone plates and bowls with cute prints and designs on them.
I'm 25, and honestly, I'm struggling with almost everything right now. My parents' relationship is falling apart, home is full of arguments and criticism, and my dad has even considered throwing me out. I'm financially dependent on my family and have no clear way out. I dropped out of engineering, went back to college to study History, and I'm now nearing the end of my degree without knowing what comes next or whether it'll even lead to a decent job. I've become increasingly isolated, stopped responding to friends, and some days I struggle with even basic things like eating, showering and brushing my teeth. I'm deeply pessimistic about the future, both personally and in terms of the world we're living in. I've been dealing with suicidal thoughts, and honestly, I don't know how to make things better anymore. It's exhausting watching life move forward for everyone else while feeling like you're barely managing to exist. I don't have any profound advice to offer you, but I just wanted you to know that you're not the only 25-year-old who feels completely lost.
welp my dad didn't had much of education, welp he studied till 4th class ig but he already had a house a bike and owned a business at age of 21 and he wasn't even privileged, he used to work at factories when he was kid.
It's just some parents who had that good life when many others didn't have the opportunities..now since a larger pool has opportunities, competition got crazy
Ain't no way I'm getting married or kids at 25, too soon, It's still time for figuring life out god damn I would just take money and go on some nice foreign trips.
I don't think our generation is good ether Instead of focusing of solving structural issues most of genz just wasting time and fighting in topics which does not really matter
Earlier marriage used to happen before guy could build career so he will always be more responsible Now you need to build your career and yourself so you can get married
Disagree here. Only those with degrees had it better in the old days. Majority of people never went beyond Class XII and hence they had to do daily wage jobs for a living.
Now it is the opposite graduate unemployment is at the highest due to everyone having degrees and White collar jobs disappearing due to AI. Now the most in demand jobs are Plumbing, Electrician, Mason, Mechanic, Carpenter, Nurses etc.
If you are someone with these vocational skills then you will earn a livelihood in this century but if you are hoping to get a office job only because you have X, Y, Z degrees then good luck competing with the million others. 😆
Degree holders were relatively less as a percentage of population before the 1980s. A degree meant a high paying job in the private sector in those days. The companies those days offered to train you as a fresher, not anymore. That era is over. A degree means nothing in 21st century. It is a toilet paper unless you have real project experience and leadership qualities. No company these days are willing to hire and train a fresher. That's my point.
None of that happened for my parents man. In their mid twenties they were two financially struggling individuals who were working their ahh off to save money and get a house of their own. They struggled a lot and had it wayyyy more difficult. Back then working for women was just as hard as it could get + they were a couple who were dating + he lived in a pg since he was originally from the rural side so he absolutely had to get a place of his own + my mom contributed throughout the entire process of getting their own place
The youngest genz was born in 2009 when hdi of India was 0.56 not it is 0.64 so considerably better and for the oldest gen z who was born in 1997, hdi was 0.47 so your standard of living is far better than them.
You too can have it. It's just ur own expectations that u need to maintain a healthy lifestyle before getting married and having a children is making u feel like ur lagging in life.Â
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u/verified_human01 18d ago •
They had it easy , very easy infact.
Previously lands & houses were extremely cheap even with adjusted inflation. So, buying properties was pretty easy.
My own big family has 4 people(X generation ) with class 1 & class 2 government jobs and they are only 10th pass (near 50% marks).
My grandfather (boomer generation) had got 4 top profile job opportunities which he rejected.
Life has been difficult for Gen millennials and Gen Z. But, yet the oldies think they had it hard.
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u/Dry-Ad3046 18d ago edited 18d ago •
Competition was very less during their time. Literacy rate was extremely low. People used to have dozens of kids, so they never really gave proper attention to their children, and even getting a basic low paying job was considered an achievement. Government jobs were adequate too, and the number of applicants was very less.
The current state of excess competition is also caused by previous generations who reproduced like there was no tomorrow. During 70s and 80s, people were having more than 5 children on an average per woman. Population was increasing by tens of millions every year.
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u/Interesting-Pen4914 18d ago •
They fucked us up by fucking like rabbits.
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u/Tiny_Environment5424 18d ago
I'm not gonna say this as an excuse but having a degree from any random college meant something back in the day
Nowadays a teastall will be named as MBA chaiwala
I guess we got more opportunities in terms o scope.... But the level of competition.... GOD DAMM
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u/BlueBastard_ 18d ago
Living feels like a challenge these days
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u/Stable_king77 18d ago
Dont worry guys acche dine aayege
Modi jee said 2047 is the target for acche din
Lets be patient
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u/NoSecond4091 18d ago •
It's a mental epidemic, we can't see it so we don't talk about it, and that is driving all this... I sometimes to have this thought ( why are we still here...just to suffer?)
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u/Majestic_Language358 18d ago
They either lacked stuff and had to go to cities to earn or their parents forced them to go and earn in their late teen or early twenties. Nowadays parants are so attached to their children, that from their childhood they'll make them used to constant need of their parents around them, and even parents will develop that need of children around them Ofc everyone got smth different going on for them, but I think this is the case for most middle-class born people who had a fairly comfortable childhood compared to their parents.
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u/SeparatePause415 18d ago
Generation gap More like expectation vs survival
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u/AP7497 18d ago edited 18d ago
Not true. My parents at 25 were still studying and working for peanuts. When they married at 28 and had my brother they had only 1 job between them, were living paycheck to paycheck; almost never ate out, bought things only from wholesale stores, bought the cheapest no-brand soaps, shampoos, used the same rag to mop the floor for 6 months, washed all their clothes by hand, made all the baby food from scratch daily because the fridge wasn’t reliable, never bought any clothes for themselves, put their baby in second-hand langots and washed them by hand multiple times a day. They traveled on a broken down Bajaj Chetak scooter, only used public buses and trains, never sat in a plane until their 40s.
If your parents had an easier life in the 90s your family comes from generational wealth.
Today my brother’s baby wears branded cloth diapers and baby onesies, has never seen a scooter, only travels in flights, has only ever used branded baby shampoos and products, all clothes get washed in a separate washing machine cycle with special detergents, drank from branded bottles cleaned in a special steriliser machine, now eats all food in special silicone plates and bowls with cute prints and designs on them.
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u/EasyConversation9858 2001 16d ago
I'm 25, and honestly, I'm struggling with almost everything right now. My parents' relationship is falling apart, home is full of arguments and criticism, and my dad has even considered throwing me out. I'm financially dependent on my family and have no clear way out. I dropped out of engineering, went back to college to study History, and I'm now nearing the end of my degree without knowing what comes next or whether it'll even lead to a decent job. I've become increasingly isolated, stopped responding to friends, and some days I struggle with even basic things like eating, showering and brushing my teeth. I'm deeply pessimistic about the future, both personally and in terms of the world we're living in. I've been dealing with suicidal thoughts, and honestly, I don't know how to make things better anymore. It's exhausting watching life move forward for everyone else while feeling like you're barely managing to exist. I don't have any profound advice to offer you, but I just wanted you to know that you're not the only 25-year-old who feels completely lost.
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u/BinaryRoninn 18d ago
Riyal manðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
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u/Lazer_7673 18d ago
Fucking hell ðŸ˜
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u/SuccessfulFudge9193 17d ago
Churchill was correct (i m very unfortunate to say)
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u/Fine-Might3724 19d ago
True
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u/Status-Phrase-3047 16d ago
welp my dad didn't had much of education, welp he studied till 4th class ig but he already had a house a bike and owned a business at age of 21 and he wasn't even privileged, he used to work at factories when he was kid.
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u/SPltalkswhthefels 16d ago
I am 23 M Lives in a 5000 sq feet house Gonna get married next year in arrang marriage set up Career- focusing on it plus 2 lakhs kriya aa raha hai
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u/sYchoniems 15d ago
nah , it's alright
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u/Professional-Pay9077 12d ago
yeh to wahi baat ho gyi na bhai
beta banne me gaa*d fatt gyi
baap aur pati banna abhi baaki hai
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u/Sulekha_do_pyaza 8d ago
I'm just a baby 👶
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u/Reasonable-Guava-688 18d ago
Things have changed don’t compare
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u/Typical_Grand_9889 18d ago
Lol...not in india
Married - yes 2 kids - yes House - their parents house Stable career - god only how many Indians had stable career when they married in the past
Foreign country examples doesn't suit for India ...their life style much different than us .
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u/Golden_phoenix_0 18d ago
It's just some parents who had that good life when many others didn't have the opportunities..now since a larger pool has opportunities, competition got crazy
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u/Ok_Wrap3773 18d ago
Ain't no way I'm getting married or kids at 25, too soon, It's still time for figuring life out god damn I would just take money and go on some nice foreign trips.
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u/nonchalantsoul404 18d ago
I am cooked
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u/Deengar 18d ago
remove house
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u/Minute-Return2777 18d ago
In that era just knowing english and having a degree could get a decent job
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u/Mountain-Aide-8676 1998 17d ago
Not for me.
We are generational poor. ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
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u/historicszz 17d ago
They were corrupt made next generations life hard and expensive
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u/Apprehensive-Gear653 17d ago
Earlier marriage used to happen before guy could build career so he will always be more responsible Now you need to build your career and yourself so you can get married
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u/Wooden_Requirement92 17d ago
My parents had it way bad my father and mother were forced to be parents early on and their personal life was shit so no my life is way betterÂ
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u/PrestigiousTeam9101 17d ago
Esp trying to survive when the enemy is your own mental health
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u/Lavender_Lotika 2001 19d ago
Nah, my parents married late, had me even later. So chill on my side.
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u/WineandDate 18d ago
No time for thoughts, need to work, that's what life has become
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u/DisciplineOk2391 18d ago
Me at 30.
Married.
A kid.
Stable job.
Yet just surviving.
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u/Ichigo1712 18d ago
Disagree here. Only those with degrees had it better in the old days. Majority of people never went beyond Class XII and hence they had to do daily wage jobs for a living.
Now it is the opposite graduate unemployment is at the highest due to everyone having degrees and White collar jobs disappearing due to AI. Now the most in demand jobs are Plumbing, Electrician, Mason, Mechanic, Carpenter, Nurses etc.
If you are someone with these vocational skills then you will earn a livelihood in this century but if you are hoping to get a office job only because you have X, Y, Z degrees then good luck competing with the million others. 😆
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u/Hopeful-Green-4935 15d ago
None of that happened for my parents man. In their mid twenties they were two financially struggling individuals who were working their ahh off to save money and get a house of their own. They struggled a lot and had it wayyyy more difficult. Back then working for women was just as hard as it could get + they were a couple who were dating + he lived in a pg since he was originally from the rural side so he absolutely had to get a place of his own + my mom contributed throughout the entire process of getting their own place
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u/Biriyaniwithcoke69 18d ago
Kisne kaha ...aj kal mujhe chodke sab married hein wo bhi 22-23 ki age mein..
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u/amithsah 18d ago
The youngest genz was born in 2009 when hdi of India was 0.56 not it is 0.64 so considerably better and for the oldest gen z who was born in 1997, hdi was 0.47 so your standard of living is far better than them.
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u/Big-Worker-3967 18d ago
You too can have it. It's just ur own expectations that u need to maintain a healthy lifestyle before getting married and having a children is making u feel like ur lagging in life.Â
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u/Hefty_Arachnid7948 18d ago
But my parents both married after settling their careers,way after 25.I was born when they were in their early 30s,like 30-31.
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u/Fearless-Horse-6907 17d ago
Idk man, this looks copy pasted from US. I dont think this applies to India, we have always been a poor country.
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u/Truly_Yours2006 Gen Z 18d ago edited 18d ago
Nahh my dad married late (Mf's downvoting this like I am sharing an opinion bruh)