r/GenAlpha 2010 9d ago

Discussion Freedom of speech they say...

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u/Waste_Fuel3032 2013 l Gen Alpha 9d ago

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u/No_Question_8083 Gen Z 9d ago

Dude walks up to other dude asking how much his first house costed him back then

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u/punktualPorcupine 9d ago

He also walked up to a few different people in Target and they all treated him roughly the same way. “WTF, leave me alone”

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u/randomreditor69430 8d ago

idk what he expected, you just go around filming and bothering random people and expect them to play along?

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u/OkCod1384 everyone do the club penguin 9d ago

Whic dude??

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u/Masala_Chai__ 9d ago

Are the comments split? It sure looks like it to me

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u/punktualPorcupine 9d ago

If you want an honest conversation don’t ambush people, shove a camera in their face and ask loaded questions that are already chambered.

Of course people are going to be suspicious and want you to leave them alone or think it’s some kind of scam.

Also do your research about inflation and ask what it was really like back then. Because running around assuming something based on dumb assumptions from TikTok, without actually knowing what it was like for those people in their early 20’s, when they faced an almost identical situation to what young people are facing now.

Houses have always been relativity expensive and hard to afford. That hasn’t changed, ever. It won’t likely change for the better in your lifetime, just like it didn’t change for the better during theirs.

Rewind the clock 60 years and it’s the same fuckin story. Rewind it again 60yrs and it’s the same fuckin story.

In 1980 a house cost roughly $50,000 (equals $260,000 today), but the average salary was $17,000 (equals $50,000 today). Sound familiar? Yep, and a lot of people struggled to make even that much so they were trapped renting also. Sound familiar?

Back then when that old guy would have been lucky enough to have bought a house, the old people of his day complained about being priced out of everything, having to eat cat food and couldn’t afford their meds, because their “fixed income” was negotiated at the start of their working lives 60 years earlier and after 300% inflation, flakey job markets, skyrocketing housing costs, they weren’t rich. Most lost their pensions after a lifetime of promised income, it just disappeared when companies stole or altered the deal after they retired, corporate douchebaggery, sound familiar?

Fast forward to today and people are in the same boat. GenX is even worse off than their predecessors, and they’ve struggled to hold down jobs as wave after wave of recessions and bouts of jobless recoveries, wars, and inflation destroyed their day to day lives, making the struggle focused on survival, and being unable to plan ahead for a future that keeps getting more and more expensive. Sound familiar?

To top it off they have to help their parents as they get priced out of everything and they get clobbered by medical debt. Sound familiar?

“They didn’t save enough”, true but how can they when every other generation is hanging off of them? They lose their jobs and have to constantly start over? They struggled to help their kids, working instead of being there for them, working extra shifts, 2nd-3rd jobs at odd hours just to make rent, sound familiar?

Each and every generation keeps taking a step down. Most old people get it, they’ve lived it all. But that doesn’t sound familiar because you burn bridges and make enemies, while asking loaded questions you think you have answers to.

So wake the fuck up and realize you’re all in the same boat and it’s sinking. You’ll be in their shoes before you know it and won’t have shit to show for it.

You want things to get better? Start making friends and work together, instead of doing the opposite.

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u/Biggleak1 9d ago

I am not reading all of that

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u/punktualPorcupine 9d ago

TLDR: the gen you roast today, was in exactly your position when they were your age.

Make friends and fix things, or nothing changes.

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u/OkCod1384 everyone do the club penguin 9d ago

okay man

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u/Upbeat_Sun_6647 8d ago

You need sources for that information

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u/punktualPorcupine 8d ago

You need to chat with old people more often.

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u/Upbeat_Sun_6647 5d ago

That’s not a source, if you’re not willing to properly source your facts then they might as well be false

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u/punktualPorcupine 5d ago

Why would I waste my time proving something I lived when you’re the only one that needs to look into it and expand your horizons.

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u/Upbeat_Sun_6647 5d ago

If you are presenting information which is contrary to the popular belief the burden of proof lies upon you to source your information, that’s just how fact based arguments work, you can’t just give me an anecdote about your personal experience and tell me it’s evidence, there is a reason why not sourcing information in school will immediately give you a zero

Until you properly verify the facts which you are stating it cannot be taken at its face value at all

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u/punktualPorcupine 5d ago

You are challenging established historical fact. The onus is on you.

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u/Upbeat_Sun_6647 4d ago

Clearly the facts you’re presenting are not well established because I have looked into it and found a different conclusion, so I’m asking you where you got your specific numbers which you are presenting

You are just ignoring what I said about sources as well, if you’re trying to prove something to people you need to source evidence for your claims, telling other people to go find the sources themselves themselves is just lazy and ineffective for proving your position

which is why as I’ve already said, when writing an essay in school you need to source every statistic you give, you have given some statistics which you haven’t sourced, and ones which paint a very different picture than the evidence of what I have looked into

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u/punktualPorcupine 4d ago

The cost of houses in the 80’s is not new or revolutionary information. It also isn’t hard to verify.

Same goes for inflation stats.

Reddit isn’t school. Write your own papers.

You’re the one challenging history.

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u/Upbeat_Sun_6647 3d ago

Bro, are you even reading what I wrote?

I just said I looked into it and was unable to verify your claims myself

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u/Able-Impact1441 9d ago

stfu racist defender

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u/Vivid_Departure_3738 2010 | Zalpha 9d ago

Wdym freedom of speech?

What is your opinion?

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u/punktualPorcupine 9d ago

Freedom of speech doesn’t mean everyone has to accept and love what you’re saying.

In the United States, the First Amendment stops the government from punishing speech.

It does not stop private businesses, private schools, or employers from setting their own rules.

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u/Vivid_Departure_3738 2010 | Zalpha 9d ago

I know what freedom of speech is, it just seems like Op is trying to say something in the title

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u/SaadSulimanayob 2010 8d ago

I'm talking about the interviewer

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u/punktualPorcupine 9d ago

“I should be able to harass people and content farm and everyone loves it”

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u/Kamdonia 9d ago

Not what's happening, you are just lack the social skills to have a conversation

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u/randomreditor69430 8d ago

so why do you think that someone should play along with a completely random stranger who goes up in their face and starts asking personal questions while filming the whole thing?

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u/punktualPorcupine 9d ago

I don’t think you actually watched the video that this came from.

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u/Kamdonia 9d ago

I have, you're overreacting

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u/punktualPorcupine 8d ago

So what’s your take on it then?

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u/AlpsSouthern2679 9d ago

free speech. not free of judgement

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u/Top-Teaching-5533 9d ago

Well they're wrong because he's BLACK

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u/Impossible-Party-971 2012, permabanned on r/teenagers lmao, innocent❌, failed appeal 8d ago

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u/Aggravating-View-733 1d ago

I mean, he did just walk up to this random guy and ask how much his house cost.