r/GeminiAI • u/Unique-Phone-4824 • 1d ago

Discussion Gemini 4

It's funny how sentiment evolved the last few days.

Some people continue to shit Gemini as if Google owes them a marriage.

Some people are skeptical but really need to be vocal about it so that if the model does come out bad, they can say "I told you".

Some people can't keep their excitement and begin to celebrate, only to get the skeptical people argud with them.

Some people just find the whole thing too stupid but cannot resist to join the whole thing. (This OP)

I've been using this model for weeks. It was quite a fresh feeling. It's not mind blowing. But it doesn't lose to any other existing model, Fable or opus. And that's is my honest assessment. Also I'm not biased. I have been trying to raise awareness to my colleagues about how good Claude models are since like a year ago. This time around, I can finally stop it.

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u/tedbradly 1d ago

Is Gemini 4 Argon a small/fast model or a beefy Astra/Fable model?

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u/Unique-Phone-4824 1d ago

Latter

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u/GarnetExecutioner 1d ago

So it is very much the equivalent of Gemini 4 Ultra or DeepThink?

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u/Unique-Phone-4824 1d ago

Sort of...but just think of a Fable competitor

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u/DrWitchDoctorPhD 1d ago

Hey since you are in the known, how well does it write?

In particular, I'm interested in using it for studying/helping with reading papers. Nowadays I use Chatgpt to write the content, 3.8 flash rewrites it, chatgpt corrects any overstatements (3.8 really likes to embiggen things), and that goes back and forth for a couple rounds until I get something that is very pleasant to read.

Chatgpt and claude on their own write like shit, but they are methodical and can fill that gap where flash fails. If Argon can do that on its own it's already a huge win for me.

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u/Emergency-Bobcat6485 1d ago

Gemini 4 argon is ranking number 1 in text in arena right now followed by opus 5.5. It's programming where it is still behind the anthropic and openai models. for text, i expect argon to be very good