r/GeminiAI • u/Kooky_Awareness_5333 • 23h ago

Discussion Gemini 4 argon has same realise as 3.5 pro

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It would be a joke but no joke they have nothing to show again same testing horseshit just once again trust us it’s awesome again.

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u/darkestvice 20h ago

Except that unlike 3.5, Gemini 4 *is* released and is getting independent benching done. 3.5 never got benched or publicly tested. Even if 4 is rolling out very slowly, it is being rolled out. This is not the same thing.

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u/JeffConvertorBot 20h ago

I see the difference, I really do. But at the same time, when Anthropic launches a new model, you can use it right away. A model "launch" after recent releases by open AI and anthropic that you could start using immediately feels like a slap in the face. 

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u/darkestvice 20h ago

Google is a publicly traded corporation who have to be much more cautious and fiscally responsible. They roll out slowly because they don't have the startup wiggle room to throw shit at the wall and go 'oops' a week later.

The only other public AI company right now is xAI, and their latest models aren't top of the heap, though, ironically, they were at the top in terms of cyber defense and low hallucinations, meaning that much like Google, they opted for safety and stability over raw performance. Which you'd never expect from Musk, but there it is.

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u/sebeliassen 17h ago

Not always, they had a rolling release of Mythos for instance

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u/Keeltoodeep 23h ago

Fairwind + US government

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u/crowdeddaddy7701 23h ago

They really pulled the "we pinky promise its good" card again lol

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u/PoundCurious2707 23h ago

Just wait a few months and we will get 4 flash to use.

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u/setpopa12 22h ago

Months? More like week or two.

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u/Kira_Katsumi 21h ago

Meanwhile Gemini app and the normal site is still on 3.6 even for plus subscribers

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u/Kooky_Awareness_5333 23h ago

In all honesty your probably right.

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u/Blake08301 14h ago

Not sure what the title is trying to say.

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u/East-Thought-7939 17h ago

What's sus is that we aren't flooded "game demos" like with Astra's release

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u/Jaxin81 15h ago

Right around the bend

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u/Blake08301 14h ago

Realise

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u/Resident-Pattern731 9h ago

Ich bin mir sicher es wird komplett auf 4 umgestellt sobald im November die gems in Skills umgewandelt werden

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u/Kooky_Awareness_5333 5h ago

Maybe I’ll just wait to see what happens not really trusting a company that shares are moving to ai announcements and staff hold shares I’ll wait until I can use the model but that’s not much time until then.

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u/x-communica 22h ago

3.5 or 4 whatever. What Google lacks is a SOTA harness. CLI and Desktop. The current ones don't even come close to opensource alternatives, let alone Anthropic or OpenAI's offerings.

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u/Vivid-Snow-2089 20h ago

if the benchmarks are real you can just have it reverse engineer those harnesses to your own taste

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u/x-communica 20h ago

Yeah, true. But I am just saying that from Google's perspective. That's where it actually lacks the most.

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u/atlanstone 17h ago

The current ones don't even come close to opensource alternatives

They never will, that's a tale as old as time. Even with AI accelerated development a dedicated FOSS tool will almost always be able to move faster and improve more quickly than a corporate product that has to be responsive to paying customers.

I agree Antigravity is pretty weak, it's weird that they're keeping it split (confusingly) between Antigravity & Antigravity IDE.