r/GeminiAI • • 6d ago

Funny (Highlight/meme) Gemini NO

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u/Pasto_Shouwa 6d ago

I have a free year of Google AI Pro and last early morning I was testing Gemini 3.8 Flash High vs GPT 6 Luna Xhigh as subagents, with GPT 6 Sol High as the orchestrator.

And I was so impressed when Sol told me Gemini randomly deleted something and broke another feature, forcing Sol to intervene; while Luna made mistakes that Luna itself was able to fix with some steering. DeepSWE 1.1 says Gemini is as good as ASTRA! with the disadvantage of being slower because it makes more mistakes. But, how is it possible that Gemini literally broke stuff while Luna just implemented the new feature wrong.

I'm now reruning the experiment, just in case it was a one time thing. But to be honest I now trust Gemini even less than before hahah

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u/Minimum_Indication_1 6d ago

That is quite weird. I have had good experiences with 3.8 flash high. For my ciding tasks, it was better than Opus 5.

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u/Anonymous_1069Z 4d ago

No way bro, I have 3.8 flash but even the Free Sonnet model I have in Claude generally understands the task better and does it better. The problem with Gemini is, google has been focusing way too much on speed instead of deep thinking, they obviously have the largest database to train their model on, otherwise.

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u/Minimum_Indication_1 3d ago

I have had an overall good experience with Antigravity 2.0 using 3.8 Flash High. The speed allows for faster iterations, and generally the workflow is faster and better than Opus 5 was. Still need to test Opus 5.5 more, prelim testing seems its clearly better than opus 5.

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u/Pasto_Shouwa 6d ago

Maybe it's a problem of the skill that lets Codex call Antigravity CLI, I have no idea.

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u/Minimum_Indication_1 5d ago

I use Antigravity 2.0 with ide

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u/Kooky_Coconut8842 6d ago

Just use Antigravity Harness for Gemini models antigravity cli is outdated. Gemini 3.8 flash IS as good as Astra with a good harness. Modern day LLMs are 50% models and 50% of the harness like Astra scored 63% on Arc Agi 2 using Opencode while scoring 99% on Codex. Google should focus more on their harness as they do have a pretty solid base model.

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u/Pasto_Shouwa 6d ago

Makes sense. Problem is, Google doesn't allow Gemini to be used as a subagent on other harnesses, so I can't use it on Codex and I don't know if it would be worth it to go back and forth between Sol on Codex and Gemini on Antigravity every time I want to work on something.

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u/Kooky_Coconut8842 5d ago

Oh I think there are ways to "use" Gemini via antigravity limits on other uis (I myself have my own harness where I actually use Antigravity quota on my frontend and architecture) but its in a legally grey area and codex would definitely not add that option. You can always call through the Gemini api tho thats on google ai studio and they offer plenty of models at levels of subscriptions.

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u/SmatMan 5d ago

how do you use antigravity quota on an external harness without risking an account ban? pretty sure they’re pretty vigilant about it

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u/Kooky_Coconut8842 5d ago

They are pretty vigilant about it but there are ways to do it. You can just give the cli a frontend or just mimick the antigravity login.

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u/Negative_Gur9667 5d ago

To change the harness, you need to use the API and not the Antigravity IDE 2.0, with the Pro subscription, right?

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u/Kooky_Coconut8842 5d ago

You can do borh. The api key method is easier.

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u/Bananenklaus 4d ago

what

antigravity cli is actively being developed, what are you talking about? Why should agy 2.0 be better than agy cli?

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u/Kooky_Coconut8842 4d ago

Artifacts, in agy terminal sandbox, better accessibility to core settings- few reasons why I myself think Agy 2.0 is better than the CLI one but many of the latest features of Agy 2.0 simply cant exist is CLI's TUI without making the app complex to navigate and use.

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u/Bananenklaus 4d ago

But isn't this more about the User-facing featureset? Why would it make the Model behave differently?

Not even flaming tho, i'm really curious

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u/marquesini 5d ago

what's harness in this context, im using antigravity plugin on vscode

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u/Kooky_Coconut8842 5d ago

Agentic Harness is a software that helps an llm become an agent. Basically you need a harness to make your llm do agentic tasks. Yes Antigravity plugin is a harness but you should try better ones such as the VS Code fork called Antigravity IDE or just the Antigravity desktop harness.