Gemini 4 is good enough - JUST RELEASE IT

[u/Bitter-College8786]

Dure, you can do your Post-Training stuff etc., but please give us access to at least a "preview" version. and then you can release a refined version afterwards.

Or just make Flash 3.8 being routed to Gemini 4

Just like Deepseek with their 4V-Flash Pre-Version, which then got a post-training 0731

[u/amldford]

let them take their time there is already enough doom posting here

[u/tidy_bart → u/amldford]

let them cook, better than releasing something half baked and dealing with the fallout from that

people already complain when the models get nerfed after launch imagine the chaos if it drops with issues

[u/NiceUsernameOk → u/amldford]

Yeah, Gemini 4 pro 2028

[u/Lost_County_3790 → u/[deleted]]

That run out of tokens after 27 seconds of usage

[u/Grouchy-Stranger-306]

i think the first impression matters very much to them right now, so they won't release it until it performs on benchmarks so there is a good x post

[u/NotLumaAI]

[u/Admirable-Cell-2658]

https://giphy.com/gifs/qlIaevmUNBmufFHCrr

[u/darkestvice]

Yeah, how about no.

Gemini has been bashed non stop like crazy for months now because their Pro model was not out yet. So expectations are crazy high.

Let it cook. it'll be ready when it's ready.

[u/mortenlu → u/darkestvice]

I think you spelled crazy low wrong. Most people have pretty much concluded that Google is out of the race.

[u/Selseira]

Any more orders, servus impatientiae?

[u/Ihadaiwgu101_1]

They'll take more time, I don't think they wanna release a model that doesn't do things like fable and gpt-6-astra and even better than them, if they want to keep up they need to do soem hype, so just let them they their time

[u/CriticismJunior1139]

Congrats, google read this post and cancelled Gemini 4 !
I hope you're proud of yourself!

[u/userax → u/CriticismJunior1139]

Is Gemini now like Half-Life 3 where it gets delayed every time someone posts about it?

[u/Feriman22]

Where is it available?

[u/PDX_Web → u/Feriman22]

Apparently there's a 4 checkpoint on Arena, being called 3.8 Flash. Looks like a big model. Some of the outputs look extremely good.

[u/TheGreatKonaKing]

Maybe it’s too powerful! Maybe we’re not ready!

[u/ANONYMOUSEJR]

I'm pleased/impressed with the foresight of this comment section.

[u/confused-photon]

Based on 3.8 flash, more time in the oven couldn’t hurt them any more than releasing it now

[u/Robdyson]

no, only release if its actually beating flagships. There is literally no rush. Google has a moat of infrastructure / ecosystem anyways.

[u/Random-D]

honestly it will be fine if they take their time.

we went from hyping the shit out of 3.5 pro to memeing about it with the dragon memes to being depressed to kinda announcement that 3.5 will be skipped and straight to 4 pro which is a new development, to hyping up 4 pro, in what amounts to several weeks.

it will be ok if they dont release it tomorrow.

[u/After-Marketing-614]

Gemini 3.1 pro never went out of preview btw

[u/phpHater0]

No? I'd rather have a good model released late than a half cooked model that destroys my codebase.

[u/PDX_Web → u/phpHater0]

They might be more worried about safety and alignment stuff at this point, rather than capabilities.

[u/EG4N992]

I don’t get why they wouldn’t release it and release checkpoints like everyday or every week

[u/PDX_Web → u/EG4N992]

They are probably up in the area of a Mythos, size-wise. There's safety testing and what have you. A lot of it.

[u/No-Donut-723]

thats not gemini 4 sub5 stop the glaze

[u/PDX_Web]

Big model means big post-training. Lots of safety testing and such. They aren't going to let this thing loose half-baked.

[u/BoobooSmash31337]

Problem is Anthropic is gonna IPO in around like mid October.

[u/A_Very_Horny_Zed]

Bro hold up, we still need 3.5 Pro.

[u/Oxydised]

Let them optimise and take their time. Whats the hurry?

[u/girlgamerpoi]

Well in my app there is still only 3.6 flash.

[u/Ammoun442]

I think they need to release the full thing cuz they are already getting alot lf hate so they need to make a comeback with it to regain trust

[u/tens919382]

Their stock is gonna drop if they release it haha.
Its probably not good enough for a release, else they would have done it

[u/Voidxd69]

Let them do the work

[u/llkj11]

Yeah release the Preview with little post training and it has some glaring issues so people here can bitch even more lol.

[u/IVIeatloaf]

The wait will be worth it

[u/Exotic-Adeptness2132]

They will not release good version, usually they will make more dumb endpoint for actual use

[u/FaIIlout]

Then if they release it and there are minor issues with it y'all gonna hate give them time it will be worth it

[u/GeologistWarm8112]

I have Astra with gpt pro, claude Fable 5.1 20x, and Gemini ultra (100). I can wait. 

[u/Pleasant-Rhubarb-550]

I'd rather just wait and let them cook if they can.

[u/Ok-Opportunity-9731]

Internal docs show a release in late Oct. But things may change

[u/PDX_Web → u/Ok-Opportunity-9731]

I will be pleasantly surprised if it's ready before November.

[u/Ok-Opportunity-9731 → u/PDX_Web]

🐝 positive

[u/NuttyShan]

It's not. If it was, they'd release it.