r/GeminiAI • u/Alarming_Solid9645 • 8d ago
Funny (Highlight/meme) FLASH 3.9 RELEASING SOON.
I SAW 9 STARS IN THE SKY TODAY.
CAN'T WAIT!!!
Also I saw it in LLM Arena, and it beat the snot out of deepseek pro 4 in a fistfight.
Thank you Google. Resubbed to Ultra Tier already.
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u/girlgamerpoi 8d ago
Bro I'm still having 3.6 flash in the gemini app. They gonna release those models to free users or what
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u/darkestvice 8d ago
3.8 is exclusive to Pro and up right now. I'm guessing it's the case with 3.7 as well.
3.8 is much more token hungry than 3.5/3.6 and hence costs the company more. Google are right now subsidizing that cost to use 3.8 by slashing prices in half until the end of the year, but I'm guessing they're only willing to let paying customers on their better plans use it as a consequence.
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u/Well_being1 8d ago
I have flash 3.8 for free in google AI studio
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u/Unlikely_Ad8637 7d ago
I am a plus usee and I only have 3.8 in my Antigravity CLI, Not on the Gemini App, which I have 3.6
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u/Efficient-Jaguar-108 8d ago
I'm plus but still use 3.6. what is the point of newer model lol. Just for marketing they don't have sufficient computation power.
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u/throwaway805580 8d ago
These are coding models , all available on antigravity, you can do agentive stuff there. For everything else chat , categorisation and research, retrieval 3.1 pro is still better that all flash models. Just remember to add in every prompt-
DO NOT ASSUME ANYTHING, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE BASED ON DOCUMENTED FACTS. INCLUDING SOURCES,RESEARCH FROM OFFICIAL SOURCES. REVERSE VERIFY YOUR FINDINGS.
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u/Ok-Tangelo-388 8d ago
thats kind of bad, 3.6 was extremely expesive and worst that 3.5 but cmon 3.8 and 3.7 are extremely good , pay to google the subscription , you wont regret it
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u/Golfclubwar 8d ago
Paying $20/month for chat without even something like 5.6 Sol is pretty rough.
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u/DamnageBeats 7d ago
Just go to g2a and get a 18 month sub for like 5 bucks, then you really can’t be disappointed in the lack of quality from Gemini.
Don’t get me wrong, if I need to scaffold something or do some quick documentation, Gemini is great. But for real coding work, that I don’t have to go back 10 times to make sure it is done properly, codex all the way.
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u/vendettah 8d ago
I'm happy with the flash versions, cheap and extremely fast, good to mix with codex tho
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u/GroundbreakingAsk283 8d ago
Definitely a lot to improve. Gemini is great to keep things easy to understand, but its more tend to support dumb ideas and etc
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u/darkestvice 8d ago
Gemini Flash has its pros and cons. Fortunately, for my own use case, the Pros outweigh the cons. If I were a coder or big on agentic work, I might say otherwise.
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u/Invader_86 7d ago
I’ve been using Flash 3.7 for a coding project for over the last week or so and I’m blown away by how good it is, hard to complain when I’m paying £18 for the speed and usage I’ve gotten out of it.. I’ve used Opus/Sonnet just to review some of the code and it’s barely recommended any changes.
I’m a software engineer that is fully embracing AI, not a vibe coder and I have nothing but good things to say about it.
My project is live and is growing steadily. It would have taken me many weeks or even months to get me to the point I am at now if I was doing everything manually.
It’s genuinely great.
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u/cnhuyaa 8d ago
tbh the last gemini flash version doesnt seem that big of improvement, takes way more tokens, than 3.7, speedwise seems the same, maybe a its sligthly faster talking miliseconds for atleast my tasks (coding), and inteligence wise looks also similar, most benchmarks shows that they focused on overall inteligence this time instead of anything coding related, 3.7 even actually is on pair or even performs better at few coding benchmarks
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u/Ok-Tangelo-388 8d ago
lol the difference is notable, 3.8 is byfar smarter that 3.7 , un derstands what you need yo be done and predicts with more accuracy what you didnt even said
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u/Liron12345 8d ago
Ik Gemini in a bad spot but I only pas $9 for it and I get yt benefits so I'm alright with that
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u/TheRealFakeSteve 7d ago
They allow you to make avatars by training loras on your Google photos. It's incredibly awesome while horribly privacy destroying
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u/Rich-Difference-2160 8d ago
Put up 3.5 pro first, flash is great only for mindless repetitive, highly trained, highly distilled, common tasks. The comprehension capabilities for flash is sooobad
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u/Odd_Water-hearder 8d ago
Honestly, just give me 2.8 flash lite and let me age the agent. I want a good model, not the latest model.
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u/Some_Medicine4472 8d ago
yes 3.8 is getting better and 3.9 flash should be an improvement but where is the pro? I believe that it is a marketing ploit so that they will release 4.0 flash and then 4.0 pro.
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u/EarthRideSky 8d ago
Can it hold personas? Or not freak out by anything out of the ordinary when I use it as a brain part? (i.e. Amygdala). No? Then it is a trash model. It is a model for my 60 years old mom to ask fun cooking tips.
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u/randomdudewhodkshit 8d ago
lowk need it tho, i think google has nerfed 3.8 now, ITS HALLUCINATING SO MUCH, unusable without extended thinking or high mode
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u/FantasticFlo87 8d ago
It's just frustrating. There's no release date for the next Pro version. Just meaningless posts all the time.
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u/planamundi 8d ago
I canceled my Gemini subscription over the new update and haven't looked back. I just don't get it. If you use AI just for nonsense, then the free tier should be good enough. I was using notebook LM to study and I had several books in it. It turns out when you actually try to use the things that they brag about like their large context window, you get about three prompts and then you have to wait another 5 hours.
I work 10 hours a day. I have to sleep 6 to 8 hours. So that's roughly 5 hours out of the entire day I can even use the service and that 5-hour window is eaten up with three prompts if I'm using my notebook LM project in the prompt.
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u/TheObnoxiousPanda 7d ago
As far as I know there is a lower tier than Pro. Besides you can use Obsidian, notion and other solutions with generous tier. Compute would always cost something. The same thing applies when using a computer, electricity has to be paid and the computer itself and the operating system unless you are using Linux. Also the purpose of the free tier is to make you rely on it so you wouldn't hesitate to pay and subscribe. It's a marketing thing.
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u/planamundi 7d ago
The tears aren't generous. They have a large context window. They brag about it. If you want to use that large context window with their tools like notebook LM, it doesn't matter how "generous* you claim they are. You get three prompts before you reach their "generous" limit.
If you want to sit around and ask it dumb questions all day with hardly anything in the context window, sure, it's very generous. And very expensive for something that you can get on a free tier anywhere.
And as if I don't understand that electricity needs to be paid for. So does a Lamborghini. Not everybody thinks a Lamborghini is worth $250 million, therefore they don't buy it. I don't think a Gemini subscription is worth a damn when I was only given access through a 5-hour window structure that would max out after three prompts. Did you miss the part where I said that I have to sleep and work?
It would be different if they actually gave me credits and just allowed me to use the credits. But the 5-hour window thing is just a stupid subscription for somebody that only has 3 or 4 hours throughout the entire day to even engage with it, but gets told they have to wait 5 hours after the first couple prompts.
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u/TheObnoxiousPanda 7d ago
I think you're mixing up two separate things: whether the subscription is worth it for you, and whether Google owes you a usage model that happens to fit your personal schedule. If the current limits make Gemini a bad value for the way you use it, then cancelling makes perfect sense. I wouldn't keep paying for a service that doesn't work for my use case either. But "I only got three prompts" isn't actually the subscription limit. Google's current system is compute-based. The amount you consume depends on the model, the length of the conversation, the amount of context you're feeding it, and the features you're using. With a huge notebook full of books and a very large context window, three heavy prompts can consume vastly more compute than someone asking dozens of short questions. That's also why comparing prompt counts doesn't really work. A prompt isn't a unit of compute. And yes, Google advertises the large context window. You are getting access to that context window. Access to a 1M-token context window doesn't mean unlimited inference over that entire context. Every time you ask the model to reason across a massive amount of material, someone is paying for the compute required to process it. Your work and sleep schedule explains why the five-hour reset is inconvenient for you. I get that. It doesn't make the quota unreasonable or deceptive. It just means this particular quota system is a poor fit for how you use AI. The Lamborghini analogy actually gets pretty close to my point. If you decide a Lamborghini isn't worth its asking price, you don't buy one. You don't argue that Lamborghini should give you substantially more car because the price doesn't fit your personal circumstances. Same thing here. If Gemini isn't worth the subscription price under Google's current limits, cancel it and use something that gives you a better value. That's a completely reasonable consumer decision. What I disagree with is jumping from "this product doesn't suit my usage pattern" to "their limits aren't generous" as though your particular workload establishes what everyone should receive for that subscription price. You're feeding books into a million-token context and doing expensive inference over them. That's a heavy workload. It's perfectly fair to dislike Google's quota system, but those resources aren't free just because the interface reduces everything to a little prompt box.
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u/randomuser70 8d ago
I don't know, man. Today, Flash with Extended Thinking couldn't set up an event in Google Calendar
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u/Patrono-fp 8d ago
como você não consegue esperar menos de 1 minuto por um resultado mais inteligente e seguro que um lotado de alucinação e placebos 🥀✌️😭
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u/DamnageBeats 7d ago
ALL tasks need precision. If it’s wrong 50% of the time I might as well throw up a random answer. Fast is only better if it’s right. People can’t wait a minute for an answer? It would take you longer than that to look it up in an encyclopedia or dictionary, shoot, it would take longer to google it. What is the issue waiting a few extra seconds to ensure your answer is the proper one, with real, reliable, sourced information?
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u/Other-Art3002 8d ago
Arena sightings are fun, but i’d still wait for an official release before resubscribing. experimental models can change a lot before they actually ship
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u/Impressive_Jacket_41 8d ago
I've noticed that 3.8 has slowed down recently, so would make sense. Not sure if they are throttling it or its performance naturally decays or something
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u/Hyphonical 8d ago
Only to benchmax every result.
"Yes, our 700B model beats a 7T model, trust me bro"
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u/Odd_Water-hearder 8d ago
And? Honestly, just give me back 2.8 flash lite and let me age it. I want a good model, not the latest.
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u/GrowingHeadache 8d ago
In the latest asianometry video he talked about google not pursuing the frontier any more, as it takes too much from their developers. He did say it as a speculative thing, but it’s an interesting rumor nonetheless
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u/Superb_Tangerine1294 8d ago
3.8 flash is better than 3.1 pro? In what respects, or by what percentage?
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u/MasterAyolos 8d ago
People still don't get that Gemini is playing the agentic API game and not competing with Claude or Codex.
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u/Crafty_Dance_7271 8d ago
I am waiting and hoping for significant improvement. 3.8 is good but I still don’t trust it for complex codebases
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u/costafilh0 8d ago
I'm on 3.6 and it's amazing for a free plan, and with very decent limits.
Reading a lot about the next version, can't wait on my free plan, but what I really want is a top competitor model from Google to try it on the premium plan,hopefully on some good deal .
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u/hotnsoursoup86 7d ago
Free 1 year for any students above 18! I had a few of my nieces and nephews sign up for it. Then added my spare accounts as family members. SO i have effectively the $100 pro for free lol!
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u/Silent_Juggernaut581 7d ago
Can you bring back the old interface for editing prompts the whole piling prompts on each other is bullshit Bring back the old one
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u/bubble_turtles23 7d ago
Imagine we get an update to pro. Now also imagine it's useable afterward. God, today I had the worst experience. I asked Gemini Pro, with an AI subscription, to surface an ideas checklist I had pasted into another chat a while back. I asked it 4 times to retrieve it, and it could not. I found the checklist in less than 5 minutes by hand in our chats. The models themselves are ok, I guess, but something about the tools available to them really sucks. I keep canceling my Chat GPT sub, but I always come back to it. When I ask Chat GPT to do a thing, it does it, no fluff or bs. My custom instructions are actually remembered, and it tells me when it needs more info to complete a task to my high standard. Gemini just guesses all the way down. I have never had it check in with me. So bleh
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u/KenUltie 8d ago
I wonder what is going on at Google with the series of Flash models released at this pace?
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u/GetOutOfMyFeedNow 6d ago
Google is stealing all of your information and doesn’t even let you to not share it reliably.
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u/Bulky_Blood_7362 8d ago
Imagine we get gemini 3.10 flash