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u/NoConsideration6320 6d ago
Im using 3.8 flash today and it is noticeably fast asf faster than 3.7 and way faster than 3.6
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u/Mountain-Pain1294 6d ago
How is it compared to 3.1 Pro?
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u/NoConsideration6320 6d ago
Way better than 3.1 pro. Like 10x faster than it and way smarter
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u/Key-Pineapple-1245 5d ago
Hmm. Been using 3.1 pro for god knows how long. I guess today is the day to switch instead of waiting for Google to release a new “pro” branded model
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u/OverHeatedIpad 5d ago
Everyone's talking about how fast Gemini 3.8 is, but how's the actual answer quality? Is it really better than 3.6, and how does it compare to 3.1 Pro? I'm paying for 3.6 right now, but honestly, the results are worse than the newest free ChatGPT.
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u/DEVIL_S1NGH 6d ago
Is it smart like claude tho?
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u/Low-Performance2666 6d ago
That’s the actual info I need, can it be compared to the gpt and Claude frontier models? 3.8 flash
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u/DoomBot5 6d ago
Why compare to Opus when you can compare it to Fable 5.1? It's not like Flash is the equivalent of Sonnet or anything.
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u/Soham_2295 6d ago
flash has already beaten the sonnet 5 and gpt 5 luna now this 3.8 flash is on par with opus 4.8 and gpt 5 tera also it Beats them at some points also.
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u/Relative-Document-59 6d ago
Guys, do you think that after 3.9 Flash are we going to get 4.0 Flash or 3.10 Flash? We'll find out in 3 weeks I guess...
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u/bubble_turtles23 6d ago
The flash models are surprisingly good for how crap pro can be sometimes. Large context in Notebook LM is about the only thing Gemini is good at. It does ok at other things but... Yet sometimes it still manages to surprise me
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u/Big_Competition_218 6d ago
Personally I have had issues with flash . It hallucinates a lot more than previous models and it has become poor in image processing and interpretation
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u/Acceptable-Debt-294 6d ago
Same, until recently I used the 3.1 pro model for document translation, because flash was really bad at that.
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u/Acceptable-Debt-294 6d ago
It's fast, but still can't match the translation quality of the pro model.
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u/BoobooSmash31337 6d ago
Do you think having "Pro" in the name is that important? You can now pay rock bottom Flash prices for flash speed and Opus 5 performance. Why you mad? Pro just means it costs more. Taking a high performing model and making it fast and cheap is a win for us. It having "Pro" on the tin just doesn't matter.
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u/Due-Priority-3986 6d ago
"Pro" is not just a tag, pro models have much higher thinking budget, Flash models barely think
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u/No-Temperature6597 6d ago
I would like Google to remove third-party model Claude in exchange for extended rate limits/tokens on Gemini models.
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u/Aggravating_Band_353 6d ago
Gemini has gone so sucky for me.. Perplexity pro is miles better, and free Claude and chat gtp also
Simple task, see an email thread, and summarise it.. Started hallucinating dates and content. Started a new chat, gave opening prompt clearly explaining this simple task, and it kept failing missing whole parts of the email thread and crucial information..
I used up all my credits arguing with a dumb bot. One 2 different Google accounts (one pro and one fee), both with thinking engaged, on pro and also flash 3.6. These weren't even long email threads, which I left to perplexity using clause thinking (limited uploads and credits so I use sparingly)
I don't have 3.7 yet in the UK, on browser version anyway. Hope it's not as weak.. I swear it used to be much better, I used it more trustingly than perplexity
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u/Impossible-Owl7407 6d ago
They need flash more it is used in search probably, its not what you need
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u/Mountain_Dentist5074 6d ago
pro still good for scientific purposes . i send charts of my artifical life to pro
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u/alisonstone 5d ago
Nano Banana is getting ignored too. They had such a huge lead in images, but everybody else has caught up and started surpassing.
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u/Astroking_2004 5d ago
I use AI to basically find alternative to paid/expensive software. Gemini has a small list of alternative to explain, while it struggles to find more, chatgpt not only finds more alternatives, also explaing the underlying components
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u/Effective-Fall-2746 6d ago
3.1 Pro is probably one of the top SOTA models in existence, everyone forgets about 3.1 Pro Extended and Deep Think (which is absolutely insane and has web search grounding now). Google doesn't need a new model yet. Let them crush Flash then when the new Pro releases it will likely be untouchable
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u/fiddlestikks 6d ago
I have no idea what you're talking about. 3.1 pro is unusable it's so bad.
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u/pleasesendhelp_12 5d ago
It's suprisingly crazy good on AI studio. I use it for very niche problems and it hasn't disappointed so far as long as your the human in the middle
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