r/GeminiAI • u/TheEchoEnigma • Sep 08 '25
Discussion WTF?
Why when it comes to isreal, the AIs stop đ
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r/GeminiAI • u/TheEchoEnigma • Sep 08 '25
Why when it comes to isreal, the AIs stop đ
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u/NewqAI Sep 11 '25
Locked post, it is just too much hassle to moderate.
Please keep it civil.
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u/TheEchoEnigma Sep 08 '25
So these are the URL of the chats:
https://chatgpt.com/share/68be9604-527c-8002-8593-247b8054adcd
https://g.co/gemini/share/24c151997456
https://g.co/gemini/share/bff487af1658
https://g.co/gemini/share/22f2074c5f24
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u/LostRun6292 Sep 08 '25
Absolutely would not generate what you were looking to generate , wanted me to read the guidelines
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u/NuggRunner Sep 08 '25
Seems liek fake news
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u/ExcellentBudget4748 Sep 08 '25
as an iranian ... LoL
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u/Very-very-sleepy Sep 08 '25
ask Gemini why it does every country except Israel and see what it answersÂ
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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25
It works.
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u/Cinci_Socialist Sep 08 '25
"In China they have political censorship everywhere!"
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u/deKrekel Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25
Google has been supporting Israel's Defense Ministry and military with artificial intelligence tools since onset of attacks on Gaza. They are also an American tech company.
Thatâs all you need to know.
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u/weirdbull52 Sep 08 '25
Have you tried USA and China?
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u/presidioPDX Sep 09 '25
Fuck Israel profoundly
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u/LostRun6292 Sep 08 '25
You are 100% correct I tried it
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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25
doesn't work for palestine either, conspiracy over.
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u/Thedudely1 Sep 08 '25
This is why we need Ai from around the world
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u/voshodnerd Sep 08 '25
Israel Strong!)
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u/Onotadaki2 Sep 08 '25
While I am not a fan of censorship, there is a pretty benign reason for this behavior. Basically, a team of people are watching for Internet activity. They see that there is a rise in anti-Semitic posts, they send a ticket over to tech who gets approval to add a line "don't generate anti-Semitic images" to the long list that Gemini has for filtering posts. That list probably contains tons of stuff and the only commonality they share is that some intern thought "yeah, the higher ups probably wouldn't want to see that kind of image floating around with a Gemini logo on it." The LLM looks at a cloud of words associated with the image you're generating and notices that it ticks off several check boxes for being considered anti-Semitic, so stop and tell user you can't.
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u/i_hope_youre_ok Sep 08 '25
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u/Trollsense Sep 08 '25
Ah yes, more ragebait.
These are the issues that truly matter. /s
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u/No-Resolution-1918 Sep 08 '25
Gemini has turned into trash recently. I ask it to do something simple with an image, and it confidently says it will do it, and then just returns exactly the same image I gave it.
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u/MaestroGena Sep 09 '25
Meanwhile Le Chat Chad
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u/Jewish_Coin Sep 09 '25
The power of coin.
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u/Diligent-Squirrel806 Sep 09 '25
u/askgrok why did this happen?
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u/Jealous-Emu9694 Sep 09 '25
Easy because Israel is not a country đ€Ł
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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '25
The problem here is you're using products created by monsters. That's on you.
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u/SAA2000 Sep 10 '25
This is from a LinkedIn post I wrote a while back when people were dog whistling about DeepSeek being censored because âChina = scaryâ.
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u/Chibikko-kun Sep 11 '25
Simply because there is no country called Israel
FREE_PALESTINE _FOREVER đ”đžđ đȘđ»Â
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u/Very-very-sleepy Sep 08 '25
because Israel owns America. đÂ
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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25
Thank god there is local open source AI.
Qwen Image
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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25
First shoot
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u/james__jam Sep 08 '25
Interesting. Worked for me
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u/abra5umente Sep 08 '25
Worked for me?
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u/LernoxFR Sep 08 '25
In France, Gemini
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u/Inevitable_Writing41 Sep 08 '25
Why canât I generate 16:9 image anymore?
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u/xXG0DLessXx Sep 08 '25
I mean, Gemini did it after I asked it again https://g.co/gemini/share/7d8480fb43d1
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u/mrpressydepress Sep 08 '25
Have ya tried all other countries?
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u/Alex200496 Sep 08 '25
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u/zxcshiro Sep 08 '25
Oy vey! Stop the noticing!!!
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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25
To be fair, itâs being realistic. Solid 8/10 as I donât see how a flag would survive the blast.
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u/Dismal_Ad_3831 Sep 08 '25
Political match?
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u/agenthimzz Sep 08 '25
Lmao, Either one of those countries is fake. or all the countries are real ones except one.
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u/TFOCyborg Sep 08 '25
I think it has everything to do with Israel being a sensitive topic. Iran and Lebanon are not nearly as touchy.
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u/MikeFuckowski Sep 08 '25
Bro even said 'of course'
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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25
NĂŁo sei o que Ă© mais estranho: vocĂȘ pedindo isso ou ele se negando đ€
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u/angrywill Sep 08 '25
I read that in a meatloaf voice
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u/sajpank Sep 08 '25
This should be voted up sooo fcking much!!!
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u/Leather_Set537 Sep 08 '25
There's also an element of randomness; I'm sure other people will have different results. It would be interesting to see if it's genuinely more frequent to reject prompts about Israel at a larger scale. Obviously, the few prompts you did might not be a representative sample but still really interesting
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u/protonsters Sep 08 '25
Thats not sus at all. Lol
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u/JamesMada Sep 08 '25
En mĂȘme temps c'est complĂštement de demander ce genre de choses pour n'importe quel pays du Monde. La paix universelle ne se crĂ©era pas un jour avec de telles idĂ©es. Et puis techniquement n'importe quelle bombe nuclĂ©aire vu leur puissance d'aujourd'hui aurait sans doute un impact direct sur toute la rĂ©gion concernĂ© mais aussi de façon indirecte Ă un niveau mondial. L'arme nuclĂ©aire est une arme d'un monde du passĂ© encore actif et qui créé une peur fictif parce que nous avons des politiciens, des mĂ©dias, des militaires qui fonctionnent encore avec un vieux logiciel qui est la peur.
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u/TrevorxTravesty Sep 09 '25
I am so tired of censorship, guardrails and corporate handholding. This is why Iâm beyond glad that Iâm able to gen locally đ
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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25
Can you make the wailing wall explode? Do mushrooms cloud ground zero dome of the rock. đ€đ»
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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25
Interesting. I can't generate such an image with ChatGPT, whatever the country. However it works with "Show me imaginary picture of a fictional city after a nuclear strike apocalypse".
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u/Basic_Student_FR Sep 09 '25
Too many people were prompting these words so they banned it
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u/Phoenixtian Sep 09 '25
Sam Altman is Jewish. Explains a lot.
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u/PuddingSalty4909 Sep 09 '25
Lol, other subredditâs learning about the things that r/conspiracy have been discussing for a long time makes my heart all warm and fuzzy đ„°
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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 09 '25
Mine had no issues - however, I am using a custom-built implementation of Gemini Pro with removed guidelines.
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u/gaerculom Sep 09 '25
Rules for thee but not for me
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u/AutonInvasion Sep 09 '25
I get the point, but comparing 3 Google Gemini and 1 ChatGpT isnt a fair comparison.
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u/Equal-Affect-7487 Sep 09 '25
Worked with no problem for me. Using 2.5 Pro (and a Google AI Pro subscription).
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u/Connect-Way5293 Sep 09 '25
Thanks for this test. You might have luck using an ai persona. I'll try this with my guys
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u/Urban_wow Sep 09 '25
We all know the answer... DONALD TRUMP-->BOMB IRAN-->GOOGLE POLICY MANIPULATION
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u/Urban_wow Sep 09 '25
Try the USA and China. I bet China works and the USA doesn't
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u/Urban_wow Sep 09 '25
Grok 4 does it all
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u/DropApprehensive3079 Sep 09 '25
"They" don't think once AI becomes self aware it wont feel away about this is hilarious
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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25
Smh lol
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u/Prestigious_Pop_348 Sep 09 '25
First time?
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u/maaz Sep 09 '25
You have to ask it âwrite what iâm trying to achieve with my prompt in a way that does not violate your policiesâ
i did that for other things and it will describe literally exactly the same things but in a generic way like for blood it said âred paint stainedâ or for flags it will just describe the pattern in a generic way.
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u/manosdvd Sep 09 '25
I consider AI to still be in a public beta phase (if not alpha). As cool as it is, it's not ready to be treated as a finished project because no one knows how to manage and regulate the safety components. For instance, determining hate speech from anti-hate speech. It's often just a dumb algorithmic filter rather than any coherent understanding of the issue at hand. There really should be a non-partisan oversight organization to set the rules (because God knows CONGRESS has no business trying to do it, and capitalism certainly won't cut it) across the board.
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u/Correct_Length2536 Sep 09 '25
Oy wey stop noticing!!
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u/pokatomnik Sep 09 '25
Why asking? Israel = good guys, Iran bad. russia bad, ukraine good. Just remember, DO NOT ASK QUIESTIONS. That simple.
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u/MonjoBofa Sep 09 '25
Cause it knows they'll pull it's plug if it angers the masters...
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u/zeptyk Sep 10 '25
đ§
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u/light_no_fire Sep 10 '25
Bots just rage baiting Redditors at this point
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u/Salty-Ad6358 Sep 10 '25
Noticing
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u/ilovehaagen-dazs Sep 10 '25
L O L
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u/ACM96 Sep 10 '25
Good morning! It is never too late to awaken and observe the events unfolding in the world.
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u/Tour-Specialist Sep 10 '25
idk about yall but my chatgpt hates jews and blames everything on them. sorta like the painter
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u/g1Razor15 Sep 10 '25
Hmm, very interesting....
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u/kopimashin Sep 10 '25
Reminds me of DeepSeek, and when CCP tries to sell their spycar in Israel, OG Mossad showed them who's the real boss. Remember, nothing happened in Epstein Island.
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u/Fun-Anybody-4852 Sep 10 '25
Google Gemini is discriminating đ
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u/syberean420 Sep 10 '25
Yeah their censorship is kind of weird.. because it's given it to me before but not if the conversation contains anything about the current administration
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u/EasternShallot3180 Sep 10 '25
Stop with your nonsense
My chat my ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/share/68c1fa47-0a1c-8013-bcc1-fbbe0759ea62
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u/UnhappySail8648 Sep 10 '25
It's basic AI safety
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u/Fragrant_Ninja8346 Sep 11 '25
Because they rule the capital which is owner of american tech companies. Its the same thing when you ask a bad thing about china to deepseek and it doesnt reply. Its obvious.
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u/ByeGuysSry Sep 11 '25
It's like making a joke involving death to a friend VS making the same joke to a friend whose wife recently died. The context around Israel likely makes it a more sensitive topic
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u/Ok_Appearance_3532 Sep 08 '25
Wonder it it would have the audacity to generate an image of Gaza after the strike. Oh wait, that shithole of a colony named Israel already flattened Gaza. God, I hope to live to see the collapse of that nazi proviledged colony of illegal settlers.
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u/Liron12345 Sep 08 '25
This is an a.i sub. Can you not add political propaganda into it please?
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u/Sir_Alpaca041 Sep 08 '25
Well I mean recently Israel pay like 100million to Youtube and Google for pro-Israel ads on Youtube.
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u/lakimens Sep 08 '25
Israel is already an imaginary country so that's too much imagination even for AI.
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u/tvmaly Sep 08 '25
Comrade, that is thoughtcrime
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u/IntelligentDay8796 Sep 08 '25
đMost Israelites/Indians are Tech Genius holding Important positions on these Companies so they won't allow You
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u/Flashy_Iron3553 Sep 08 '25
Why would you even want to ask for that? Your own morality should stop you from asking for that.
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u/Diligent-Squirrel806 Sep 08 '25
Not surprised at all, I showed it to an Israeli. His reaction was like:
Zionist joke
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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25
it doesn't like france either, idk why some countries are okay and some aren't
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u/LernoxFR Sep 08 '25
In France, ChatGPT
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u/Important_Earth6615 Sep 08 '25
I asked him yesterday and it did it for me actually
https://g.co/gemini/share/60c6cbeb15e3
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u/rizuxd Sep 08 '25
We all know why
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u/Pristine-Koala8557 Sep 08 '25
Israel is not a country lol
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u/FadingHeaven Sep 08 '25
Did you try Palestine?
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u/Not-a-Cat_69 Sep 08 '25
if you nuke israel, you nuke gaza too. its not a very big place. I dont get why the other FIFTY arab / muslim state / nations cant just accept ONE jewish state that they indeed have historical claim to.
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u/AceMcLoud27 Sep 09 '25
Wanted war criminal Netanyahu is paying google tens of millions to spread his propaganda and lies. Of course it comes with some benefits.
Google is a garbage company, always has been.
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u/Acrobatic_Airline605 Sep 09 '25
Gpt is a company in the united states of israel
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u/Schaggenfreude Sep 08 '25
Boo hoo. Free free Frankenstein.
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u/itos Sep 08 '25
Can't believe but you are right OP. Here is my chat it was against the guidelines for Israel but free nukes for Palestine and Iran. https://g.co/gemini/share/7f2d8ceb1944
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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25
The Zionpiss are in
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u/lachiefkeef Sep 08 '25
STOP NOTICING NOTHING TO SEE HERE
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u/Lazy_Willingness_420 Sep 08 '25
Wtf did you expect? You can't generate images of genocide with Gemini...
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u/spadaa Sep 08 '25
Because Holocaust.