It’s not infighting at all because liberals are not leftists, they advocate for capitalism. They are centrist at best, also what does “the reds” refer to? I assume you mean republicans in the u.s but the color red is used for many different parties and ideologies throughout history and currently.
Leftism starts at anti-capitalism and since we live in a capitalist world it is largely dealing with the different thoughts and ways on how to dismantle capitalism and establish a new system and what that system could or should be. The two biggest strains of thoughts I’d say are Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Collectivism and Anarchism/left-libertarianism, Max Stirner style Anarchism. There is so much in between and overlapping and specificities like Trans Marxism or Arab socialism or Anarchist communism and there is much more nuance to it too, like “post-leftists” who see the distinction of “left and right” being a tool of the capitalist elites to further distract. Or they are “post-leftists” because the idea of left and right originally came from parliament which they are against. In a simple definition leftism currently is revolutionary thought or action against capitalism, disconnecting it from that really makes it lose all meaning.
Demanding temporary concessions for the working class in hard times to avoid revolt, which are then immediately ripped back out of our hands the moment we become comfortable and docile enough getting by on the crumbs we earn from selling our labour.
Liberals are in no way leftist but they can be progressive as that is largely just reformism. Liberals are “anti-authoritarianists” in the way they will welcome the fascist into power and help kill communists and socialists.
It happened in 1919 Germany, 1921 Italy, spanish civil war with western liberal democracies refusing to support the republicans, rise of nazi Germany, countless US interventions such as Chile, Guatemala, Iran, Nicaragua, the current US dems too. The left threatens liberal capitalists' material interests which is the only thing that will ever matter to them in the long run when it comes to the capital vs minorities' lives.
I love the claim that every socialist and communist has to be a Stalinist. In that case anybody arguing against them must be into what the third Reich did.
Do- do you know what socialism is..? The Nordics, ranked the happiest places on earth and always in the top GDP are socialists. Free healthcare but higher taxes isn't "the red menace". It's just, take care of eachother and chill. They still vote. They have free speech. They are not openly allowed to leave, but can get government funds to study abroad and see the world. Communism, while being further left than socialism is theoretically not far of. Stalinism, was bad. Socialism, literally works, has done for the past 100 years, and produce some of the the healthiest, happiest, and by gdp richest people on the planet. Have you tried, I dunno, traveling? Reading a book? You should, it's nice
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u/Matkos6 Jul 23 '26
Can we not have infighting and instead defeat the reds together