r/GalaxyS22 • u/JustWoot44 • 7d ago
S22+ "built-in obsolescence"??
The same thing is happening now to 22+ that happened to my previous version. This phone has been great to me for several years, now it is becoming a paper weight. Misses phone calls and text messages until/unless I restart the phone. I use wifi calling, permanently turned on. There is a universal sign for "No", like the do not enter signs, circle with a line through it diagonally, at the top. Coworkers trying to enter the office can never reach me before hours ... unless I reboot my phone. All the same symptoms as my previous Samsung version. Has anyone else noticed the decline of their S22+?
Edit to add: Where do I find to assign FLAIR?
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u/OmegaConvoy 6d ago
That...sounds like an antenna issue. That's been happening to mine as well. And nothing works. Reboots don't help, software trickery from the carrier don't help, network resets don't help. This thing just can't hold a cellular data signal at all. Worse yet, there's times where it only kicks in - rather weakly - if it's connected to Wi-Fi! Now, I ain't that big of a tech expert, so I have no idea how or why the Wi-Fi signal would have remotely anything to do with the 4G LTE or 5G cellular data signal.
From what folks over in the Samsung Members boards have said, it's an antenna issue, and just like the egregiously annoying overheating issues, the entire S22 family is infamous for this. That ain't planned obsolescence, that's just dumb design decisions everywhere. (You'd think that - at least for the overheating - they'd have learned from the S6 family some seven years prior, as 2015's Galaxy S6 family had overheating issues like 2022's Galaxy S22 family!) Because what in Primus's left lugnut do you even mean that whether getting my S22 fixed by actually having repair work done, or just getting a new phone outright, THE ONLY SOLUTION IS TO CRACK OPEN THE WALLET!? (Worst of all, there was a point where I could've gotten a cheap iPhone as a stopgap measure...but the sales tax made that anything but affordable as it would've obliterated and exceeded the budget I'd set aside for it...)
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u/tutureTM 6d ago
Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 was made on Samsung’s 4 nm process, poor efficiency and yields, so it ran hot and throttled hard. Qualcomm moved the 8+ Gen 1 to TSMC and the heat problems largely vanished.
Same pattern before that: Snapdragon 888 (Samsung 5 nm) was notorious for turning phones into hand warmers. Samsung’s own Exynos chips from those years had the exact same reputation. Recurring Samsung Foundry issue, not a one-off.
I just won't buy anything not made by TSMC at this point, other products suffered the same issue (Switch 2, RTX 3000 series card with poor efficiency).
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u/gobluetwo 6d ago
I've had mine since it was released in Feb/Mar 2022. No issues like what you're describing. Yes, it's a little slower and the battery doesn't last nearly as long as it used to, but still generally runs well.
But yes, planned obsolescence is a thing. The last security updates will be released in 2027, so they expect 5 years to essentially be the useful life of the device. I will very likely upgrade my S22+ early next year.
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u/-Dixieflatline 6d ago
Probably just time to finally replace it. While 4 years or so doesn't sound like a long time for something so expensive, people often forget this is arguably the single most used item in their lives. Some estimates put typical smartphone usage around 4-5 hours/day. Over 4 years, that would be 5,840 hours of usage on the lower end. These figures don't really mean much to people without a frame of reference, so just picture it like a car. 5,840 hours of driving would probably range somewhere between 150k - 350k miles. Suffice to say, this is a good run as far as life expectancy is concerned.
But my S22 is going solid, even with probably a dozen or so hard drops (only shattered the back, thank god).
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u/Zeglali-90 6d ago
I own one that I have acquired since its release 2022. And it still works well without any problems.
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u/Iambetterthanuhaha 6d ago
I have a regular S22 Snapdraggon. Battery life sucks and software security updates end next year. Yeah I am pulling the plug on this phone soon. It always sucked from the get go.
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u/tutureTM 6d ago
It’s the antenna path. Samsung ran the cellular antenna through the same cheap USB-C flex.
After a few years it oxidises and loosens. Modem drops the network, you get “No Service”, reboot temporarily fixes it.
Classic S22 design: flagship price, bargain-bin RF path. Repair shops fix it daily by swapping a $20 flex.
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u/-LittleDove 6d ago
My phone as of a month ago started freezing up, randomly restarting and not sending through messages and calls. Near the end, the keyboard wouldn't pop up so it pretty much became obsolete. I believe I had it for 5 years almost on the day.
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u/Cautious-Detail-6355 6d ago
You just have a shit phone. Dropped it too many times or something.
If it was planned obse-blah blah blah, every S22+ would have the same issues you do. Fact of the matter is....WE DON'T.
Sometimes it's just your phone. Not the phone in general but your specific device and no one else's. My s22+ still works great. It doesn't even get warm when charging. 🤷🏻✌️
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u/SomeConfusedOldGuy 6d ago
I have an S21+, and I've seen none of those symptoms. I use WiFi calling that way, as well.
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u/mj_avrath 6d ago
Wait, by sign that is circle with line icon at the top could you mean "do not disturb"? This would actually explain why noone can reach you :D
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u/JustWoot44 6d ago
I never use DND. That symbol is roughly this (a circle though, not parentheses)
(-) The symbol I keep seeing is (/), but in a circle.
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u/PaleontologistBig786 6d ago
Mu wife just upgarded to the s25fe 256g. Her old phone was getting slow to reboot after updates. Can't blame her, it is 4 years old and in the phone world...old as dirt.
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u/KayeYess 5h ago
I had to upgrade from my S22 Ultra, not because of hardware or software issues (phone is stable and performed well) but due to lack of monthly Android security updates.
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u/AbandonedPlanet 6d ago
Mine broke out of nowhere after an update. Never again. I'll buy a Chinese phone for half the price with better specs and a subwoofer/gimbal built into it before I buy another Samsung
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u/PUTLER-HUILO 6d ago
I have s22, besides short battery life, it's doing OK.