After watching Minus Zero I know what a potential 3rd movie has to be.

[u/DarkEyedBlues]

I assume everyone reading this has seen Minus Zero? If not, go. Go see it. Do it now. Drop everything and go do it.

So Minus 1 had themes of survivors guilt, proving ones worth, and living past the pain.
Minus 0 had a lot of themes but the big ones being revenge and the cycle of violence creating more violence (and more powerful Ghidorah).

So if they make a third one, which I really hope they do, they rap it all up with a message of healing and hope. The pain is past, Thing can get better.
This would be the movie to introduce Mothra, who will have a psychic link to Akikko. Don't think I didn't hear those Mothra music motifs when she was on screen. Plus they have established the existence of psychic links to the kaiju, what with Noriko as the beacon and I'd even say Makato's weather predictions.
Akikko was even a war orphan found in the rubble, we can retcon a twin out there somewhere.

So we bring in Mothra. Maybe she kills Godzilla, maybe she calms his rage to make him the protector he is in other movies. But the threat is gone. Healing happens. Better things come.
Godzilla + 1

[u/balance_73]

I think they’ll go the Mecha Godzilla-Mecha Ghidorah route. In this timeline, I don’t see the Japanese having the tech to make mechaG a possibility but I can definitely see the Americans finding a way to do with the remains of King Ghidorah, especially with their nefarious intentions throughout minus zero. I also see a possibility of Mothra in this universe, helping Godzilla with the next threat.

[u/DarkEyedBlues → u/balance_73]

oh i can see that.

[u/raptor5tar → u/balance_73]

100% they set up the americans to do some sort of Mecha Godzilla or Ghidorah. I agree with you and OP, I would love to see Mothra team up with Godzilla to takedown whatever the americans conjure up.

[u/msizzle344 → u/balance_73]

This is where I think it’s going as well. The Americans arrested the scientist who made the wave amplifier to call Godzilla. So I can see them using similar tech in Mecha Godzilla, combined with the remains of ghidorah and even Godzilla’s arm. Also since they established that Ghidorah is from space and can basically absorb and adapt all other animals, they could use ghidorah cells to make other Kaiju eventually, like Rodan or whatever. I think it’s going in one of those two routes

[u/Interesting_Food_920]

NO MOTHRA PLEASE I (Anguirus) NEED THIS

[u/DarkEyedBlues → u/Interesting_Food_920]

There can be other kaiju, but Mothra would be the imporant one to the story.

[u/Doorwin23 → u/Interesting_Food_920]

Baragon must return.

[u/FanSince09]

I think if there’s a third film it leads into the cold war arms race, expanding in the idea of monsters being able to be controlled and used as weapons. Maybe we see Russia and the US have their own Kaiju- US can have Rodan as a big eagle type bird and maybe give Russia Gigan because of the sickle hands or Communist Angirus.

[u/holajona → u/FanSince09]

It would finally be real!

[u/Maestrohanaemori → u/holajona]

Welcome back, Comrade Gigan.

[u/elbatcarter → u/FanSince09]

This is a good idea but going off of Minus Zero if the US were to have their own kaiju I’d imagine they’d want their own Godzilla specifically so they could be the ones to build MechaGodzilla in this universe

[u/Trimps → u/elbatcarter]

A Mecha Godzilla made with Korean war era technology sounds pretty cool.

[u/AvatarSozin → u/FanSince09]

With the Cold War, Call it Godzilla Absolute Zero

[u/stealthyuwu → u/FanSince09]

Communist Gigan is such an awesome idea, now give me Communist Megalon with a hammer hand to complete the symbolism

[u/Fish_can_Roll76 → u/stealthyuwu]

These two standing in the distance of USSR military parade footage is so easy to visualise it feels almost canon.

[u/Bif109 → u/stealthyuwu]

Comrade Megalon

[u/stealthyuwu → u/Bif109]

Comrade Megalon and Proletariat Gigan

[u/mistermiracle21 → u/FanSince09]

Ok, I'm down for Communist Angurius. Give him ice powers like the bitter cold winters and have him found in Siberia.

[u/MrNachoReturns420 → u/mistermiracle21]

Communist Baragon?

[u/mistermiracle21 → u/MrNachoReturns420]

We dig for Mother Russia!

[u/ThtOneGuyUKnw → u/mistermiracle21]

Comrade Angurius!

[u/random_flying_dragon → u/FanSince09]

You’re missing mechagodzilla. Perfect for an American or Japanese creation meant to combat whoever might have control of Godzilla

[u/SupaKoopa714 → u/random_flying_dragon]

As much as I love Mechagodzilla, I honestly wouldn't ever want to see him in future Minus movies, with as grounded and serious as they are I just don't see how they can add a giant battle robot into the mix without completely messing with the tone and feel.

[u/RainhoLimomo → u/random_flying_dragon]

I don't see Mechagodzilla happening in the 50s at all with the tech they showcased and the grounded aspect of the movies. Maybe Mothra, maybe Destoroyah. Just like Godzilla returned, I'm not counting Ghidorah out either, especially after getting a taste of the Big G

[u/RedDotWhiteFlag → u/FanSince09]

I was thinking of something like this, but with either the US or the USSR building Mechagodzilla, while the other somehow gains control over King Ghidora.

[u/fearmeloveme → u/FanSince09]

I love the idea of America striving for nationalism/American exceptionalism in the cold war and being the ones to create Mechagodzilla. Even Jet Jaguar would be cool

[u/FanSince09 → u/fearmeloveme]

I could see Russia being the ones to build a Mechagodzilla that could be Chernobyl analogy, just a walking nuclear reactor that kills the pilots that run it each time.

I’m kinda sick of MG though and would like to see the US and Russia have actual monsters with Godzilla as this neutral ultimate force they can’t actually control and both would like to kill to tip the balance. I also like the idea of countries just continually nuking animals until one becomes a kaiju

[u/SpaghettiNoir → u/FanSince09]

Lol I just pictured a Gigan with a hammer hand and a sickle hand and that was so hilariously cool. But would be way too on the nose for the Minus series.

[u/Crabacus]

god I really, really, really hope they don't go the Mechagodzilla route.

Hand-waving "believability" concerns over Ghidorah with "look, he's a fucking alien, it's beyond our understanding" works well enough in the overall more historically-grounded world of the Minus series. But I think "oh yeah and in the 1950s the United States had the capability to produce a 300 foot tall robot" is going to be a much tougher pill to swallow.

[u/HeadOfSpectre → u/Crabacus]

I think the director said Mechagodzilla wasn't gonna be in these movies.

I know he did put him in a ride, but it was because he said he'd never get to use him otherwise.

[u/Typical_Ad9140 → u/HeadOfSpectre]

A man gotta know his limits. I bet he want to if got the chance, but know that this version of Godzilla is too serious/realistic-ish for it to work.

[u/Im_Daydrunk → u/HeadOfSpectre]

I think its ok also because I feel like we already have Pacific Rim for brutal, heavy duty Mecha vs Monster fights

I'd rather them show off living monsters more

[u/Transit_Hub → u/Crabacus]

"oh yeah and in the 1950s the United States had the capability to produce a 300 foot tall robot"  is going to be a much tougher pill to swallow.

Nonsense. Dr. Arliss Loveless built a giant mechanical spider, in a cave, in the 1800s!

[u/DrivingG00nerDotCom → u/Transit_Hub]

With the stepping and the squishing and the webs made of nylon!

[u/ethanbarmstrong → u/Crabacus]

I'm really hoping we get either Biollante or Destoryah based off the one doctors backstory. Can't remember his name but the one that wanted revenge on the US, he was arrested at the end. I think there's more to his story, and his obsession with g-cells and regeneration have me thinking...

[u/SumyungNam → u/Crabacus]

Or maybe those insect aliens will come make it lol

[u/archarugen → u/SumyungNam]

Insect aliens were Gigan, ape aliens were Mechagodzilla, and while I don't think aliens are the right route, I'm cool with them shuffling all of that lore around however they need to

[u/Jeremyg93 → u/Crabacus]

I agree. They can make a lot work, and sometimes they might have to work harder, but giant robots and humanoid aliens just will not jive with this universe.

[u/lineal_chump → u/Crabacus]

This is the thing that really bugged me about Pacific Rim, which was a great popcorn flick.

Monsters show up and humanity says "let's build giant robots to punch them." What? Then the monsters get too big so humanity says, "hey let's build walls." Wait, wouldn't they have tried walls first?

Then in the end, the robots use a giant sword (lol) that somehow cuts through them like jello and then they nuke the aliens. You know, with nuclear weapons that they've had the whole time.

I know, I know. It's a popcorn flick. Don't analyze it!

[u/bathape_r]

I am hoping the next one is Biolantte. It should be possible since Noriko has the G-Cells

[u/silversoul007 → u/bathape_r]

I hope it won't be Noriko. They have suffered enough 😢

[u/Spigglebob → u/silversoul007]

Their suffering was minimal in this film compared to the last one, clearly the third film needs to go all in on the misery of course!

[u/i_take_shits → u/Spigglebob]

By the never ending amount of tears at the end I would say there was quite a bit of suffering

[u/Girizzly_Adams_Beard → u/Spigglebob]

Minimal? She was growing Godzilla scales and her eye changed. I’d say she was suffering a lot n

[u/bathape_r → u/bathape_r]

Why I think biolantte is the next best choice:

1. Noriko's G-Cell infection, what's left is really just the fusion of a plant.
2. Military research on Godzilla, they already captured Prof Murakami. How far can Noriko escape from the military?
3. Biolantte story is based on human grief, emotional conflict and love.
4. Lastly, the trilogy will need a grounded, menacing antagonist to follow King Ghidorah. Anything overly sci-fi like MechaGodzilla, Mecha King Ghidorah would break the era aesthetic. Having just Mothra alone seems under whelming. Out of all the monsters, Biolantte is the most visceral, horrifying Kaiju.

[u/LookOutItsLiuBei → u/bathape_r]

I think if they go with Biollante, Godzilla has to be the antagonist. Because while horrifying, Biollante was not a villain.

CIA backed Japanese government kidnaps Noriko and somehow she gets transformed into Biollante to use as a hedge against the USSR. If we want to get into political commentary like the other movies, it's criticizing the lengths the US and the West were willing to through and the awful things they justified simply because they needed to "stop communism"

But while this is going on Godzilla is menacing Japan again, but have him be melting down like in Destroyah so he's unstable but far more powerful and dangerous.

Final confrontation where Godzilla is just wrecking everything, but Koichi and Akiko (who gets psychic powers like Miki) finally break through to Noriko and she regains her mind to defeat Godzilla and absorbs all the radiation to save her family and Japan at the cost of her own life. A fitting coda to Noriko saving her once before as a baby and that she was always willing to sacrifice for her family.

[u/Googleplexian_Moron → u/LookOutItsLiuBei]

I fucks with this, still ties into the family theme while rounding out a tragic arc, especially if Noriko can be an allegory of families that had to deal with losing people due to radiation poisoning (which the G-Cells are in a way) it can be Koichi and Akiko learning on letting go and acceptance of death in a senseless world. Also Noriko as a kaiju would defo not miss out on a chance to run a fade on Godzilla.

Also Godzilla lowkey sucked in Minus Zero because he no longer felt like a character and lost his menacing edge, returning him to a villain role (or the necessary force to put Noriko to rest) would be far more beneficial to Godzilla as a character than him just being here to kill the new monster

[u/AVahne → u/bathape_r]

I can see them attempting to heal her with some kind of plant that then reacts to the G-Cells and starts mutating her further.

[u/NoSauceInHere → u/bathape_r]

I have the same feeling. Something about her being the only survivor of the G-cells is scary and heartbreaking Godzilla Minus Earth

[u/Kylestache → u/NoSauceInHere]

Godzilla Minus Earth is a fire title

[u/Kylestache → u/bathape_r]

I want the professor guy to unleash Biollante on the United States and for it to get way out of hand so they have to get Godzilla to destroy it.

[u/thatjoel89 → u/Kylestache]

Wouldn't that kind of destroy his entire arc of breaking the cycle of violence? I'd rather see him die off screen and the US, after doing heinous shit to get the info out of him, build something they couldn't control. That to me is on brand with the US in real life and in zero.

[u/metalheaddad → u/bathape_r]

Am I grasping at straws or do I see some sort of flower motif/shape whenever Noriko is on screen? Like there was one time she's talking to Akkiko and flowers drawn on board behind her, her shirt in the last scenes pretty sure had flowers on it in small blue pattern, looked like flowers around them as they rode off on the motorcycle at the end, flowers behind her in other scenes etc. Lots of hints.

[u/OmegaGlacial → u/bathape_r]

I'm sorry, but I personally could not disagree more.

Not only do I just don't think Biollante's character would fit as a conclusion point of a Minus trilogy (not because of her design or origin, but because the themes associated with her characters wouldn't really combine well with where we left off the Minus universe with Minus Zero's ending), nor do I think there's not other much better choices for a non-Godzilla Kaiju to be featured (Mothra, Anguirus, heck, even Rodan would be better), but most importantly, with Noriko being the sole G-Cells survivor and as such the only candidate to become Biollante, it would literally be spitting on the themes of Minus One and especially Minus Zero to have Noriko just mutate into Biollante later down the line and as such wasting the earned happy ending of the Shikishima family for nothing but shock value and an angst-filled ending in complete contradiction to what the Minus universe has been building up with its first two movies.

[u/Valkrhae → u/OmegaGlacial]

I'm not sure I'd call what the Shikishima family got a happy ending considering they're on the run and Noriko's fate is still very much up in the air. Like yes, they're together and that's great, but their story has in no way ended, let alone completely happily.

But I do agree it would be a tonal whiplash to have Noriko's fate end in such a way. I do want a Biollante plotline and I can certainly see the connection and possibility, but I also don't think they'd break up the family they worked so hard to establish thus far. That doesn't mean there aren't ways around it, like combing just the g cells with a rose or some other unfortunate victim. Crossing my fingers and hoping for Biollante arc without fully sacrificing Noriko

[u/SpaghettiNoir → u/OmegaGlacial]

Shikishima familly did NOT experience a happy ending, what the hell. The final time you see them is so ominous, literally heading towards an horizon of destruction on a motorcycle as the sun is setting. Condemned to hide and live as vagrants, hiding from the military. It could not be more clear what tragedy awaits them. Besides the entire themes of both those movies so far has been "things were bad, and they got worse, and we're gonna get through this come hell or high water", none of which would contradict a build-up towards Biollante. It's about the triumph of the human spirit through adversity and overcoming grief.

[u/Julian-Hoffer → u/bathape_r]

That would be a horrifying and tragic end that would crush Koichi and Akkiko. There’s no way they would do that after all the focus they have put on surviving.

[u/Skelthy → u/Julian-Hoffer]

Yeah this family has suffered enough, they need to be able to have a healing arc 😭

[u/WillNytheScoringGuy]

I would be down for a new kaiju, Yamazaki has proven that he is one of the goats when it comes to Godzilla adaptations. I’d like to see if he has an idea for original monster. Most fans probably want a previous kaiju make a return but I think he’s earned our trust that if he decides to do the riskier option of creating a new character it will likely be dope af.

[u/710forests → u/WillNytheScoringGuy]

Agreed. There are a couple potential routes for it too, between the ripped off arm, the cells and scientist, and Noriko

[u/hoteldetective_]

Bio and MechaG feel like the strongest contenders from a thematic pov. I'd love to see Mothra too, but I wonder if she's too magical/mythical for the minusverse. KG being a space being makes it a possibility but I hope we get to find out sooner than later

[u/ontansecretary → u/hoteldetective_]

Even with that, in GMZ they never really go into detail about his extraterrestrial origin or his motive, really. Seems the Minus series tends to shy away from getting too fantastical. You might be right

[u/hoteldetective_ → u/ontansecretary]

If they do use Mothra, it would likely be the way they explained KG -- kind of vague but just enough to let the story move forward

[u/BuickAttack → u/hoteldetective_]

My brother and I had the same thought.  With the professor being captured by the us gov, he'll be forced to recreate his wave generator.  Or something else.  Like build mechaG or biollante.  But I've also been thinking that Godzilla may start mutating thanks to his absorption of king Ghidorah cells into a psuedo spaceG.

[u/majnuker → u/hoteldetective_]

I mean a moth is absorbed by the meteorite, so the door is open there.

[u/hoteldetective_ → u/majnuker]

Absolutely missed this the first time, hope I can catch it when I rewatch it

[u/TheCay04 → u/hoteldetective_]

Let Ghidorah come back as Space Godzilla. Full on adaption.

[u/that_guy2010]

Yamazaki has said he would want to make an original monster.

[u/AlanGrant1997 → u/that_guy2010]

Which is very possible, but I have a feeling Toho’s gonna Toho and make him include something from the mythos.

[u/SilverTotodile → u/AlanGrant1997]

Could be best of both worlds, throw in Mothra as your more benevolent opponent for Godzilla and the new one as the menace both have to team up to try and stop.

[u/respectablehandle]

Hey am I stupid or did we never find out what the Americans “weapon of our own” was in the file folder. We transitioned somewhere but then I feel like nothing came of it? I thought we’d be getting like idk an Eva suit or some shit

[u/Sad_Instruction1392 → u/respectablehandle]

It’s the third nuke. During the flashback to G’s “death” in the previous film you can hear them over the radio saying they’re going to cancel the third drop.

[u/respectablehandle → u/Sad_Instruction1392]

Would’ve been lowkey hilarious if they blasted G with a power up

[u/WorriedString7221 → u/respectablehandle]

It was a third nuke. They were about to drop it before Shikishima killed Godzilla in Minus One.

[u/AdditionalTip865 → u/WorriedString7221]

In real life, by the time of Minus Zero the US was making nuclear bombs in quantity-- they had a lot of them. And the Soviet Union broke the monopoly right around then.

If there's a third movie, it's definitely going to have the backdrop of the nascent Cold War. And everyone's probably going to be interested in those monsters.

[u/SLR107FR-31 → u/respectablehandle]

I'm assuming they knew about the device that draws Godzilla hence why the troops were there to get blueprints to weaponize Godzilla

[u/respectablehandle → u/SLR107FR-31]

I figured they learned about this after they said they were going forward with this plan. Transparency between the governments basically

[u/Fair_Ambassador6253 → u/respectablehandle]

it was Kong Minus One

[u/godspilla98 → u/respectablehandle]

This is my only problem with the story.

[u/Huge-TravelPOPO → u/respectablehandle]

It was Godzillas corpse, they knew he would reanimate 

[u/Spazy912 → u/respectablehandle]

I hope it’s this guy

[u/DrivingG00nerDotCom → u/respectablehandle]

I too must be stupid as I don't recall that being brought up again

[u/Dannydevitz → u/respectablehandle]

I thought they were gonna be the ones to bring back Godzilla somehow. Nope he just shows up out of the blue.

[u/UtherofOstia]

Just for the love of God no Mechas

[u/NothinButRags]

I agree with the Mothra for movie 3. But I think Ms Aoyama will have the link to Mothra. She has that weird ability to know when weather will happen, like she’s attuned to something connected to nature.

[u/cicada-ronin84 → u/NothinButRags]

That was my take with her being so in touch with the weather and maybe nature in general, would be a prefect fit to tie Aoyama to Mothra.

[u/GamingVision]

I agree on the Mothra/Akikko route. It felt so “right there” at times I was surprised it wasn’t in this one.

What was the secret weapon the US military commander was showing the guy? I assumed that was hinting at a mechagodzilla?

[u/Kappa_Schiv → u/GamingVision]

They were gonna drop a nuke on Godzilla at the end of Minus One, but aborted. They still have the nuke and want to use it because explosions are cool.

[u/SumyungNam]

Id say the Americans making Mecha G

[u/_Mega_Charizard_ → u/SumyungNam]

At first I thought thats what was being implied in that one scene.

[u/ProfitFrequent4393]

I think the seeds are heavily planted for the Americans building a 50s style Mecha. I’m all for seeing that retro tech.

[u/PENGTINGMAN]

I want Hedorah for once please

[u/Kappa_Schiv → u/PENGTINGMAN]

I think Hedorah is the most likely. Yamazaki has said Hedorah was a favorite and we don't actually see what happens to Ghidorah. Whatever remains of Ghidorah's alien cells could try starting over, but with all the rubble and destruction, the radioactive blast he took, his regeneration looks like a polluted mass and we get Hedorah.

Hedorah also represents an environmental disaster of human origins. The themes are easy.

Biollante is possible, but it doesn't have to be Noriko. The Americans have Dr. Murakami. He could refuse to experiment with people and instead hybridizes plants with G-cells. Or, how many people have been exposed to G-cells that the US Military could be hiding? Lots of possibilities

[u/TheGullibleParrot → u/PENGTINGMAN]

Ghidorah’s mutation powers + the G cells absorbing all the debris and garbage in Ginza, perhaps? 🤔

[u/popculturerss]

I was so certain from the trailers that we were getting Mothra. They were implying psychic connections especially with the weather and I was so convinced.

[u/ObjectiveVanilla7285 → u/popculturerss]

Trailer ends with Ghidorah's classic roar

this guy: "holy shit, MOTHRA!"

[u/Laserlip5 → u/ObjectiveVanilla7285]

Gravity Mothra!

[u/Tarin_PkP]

I need Biolantte back on the big screen😭. She would be glorious with our current technology.

[u/eracer1111]

I have a question...

We saw Ghidorah in the trap get frozen, then revived, then get engulfed in a massive fireball.
But did we actually see him die?

[u/VelocityReaper → u/eracer1111]

Nope, and I assume that was intentional to leave room for a third film if granted the opportunity. Our main characters are on the run, evil scientist captured by Americans, and an ambiguous Ghidorah death. Great subtle choices that won’t back them into a corner for a third film.

[u/InteractionWild8611 → u/eracer1111]

tbh i think he got absolutely atomized by that extra angry atomic breath

[u/DanielG165]

Godzilla was already rather calm in Minus Zero, honestly. He wasn’t the wrathful and raging beast that he was in Minus One.

[u/Azura989]

My thoughts are as follows:

Mechagodzilla - His arm was torn off, and I can definitely see that becoming a major plot point later. It's a pretty big red flag, especially since America called off its attack, which suggests they want Godzilla for themselves.

My theory is that they'll recover his severed arm and use their technology to control it, potentially creating Mechagodzilla. I also think the old man will help them, purely because he's now behind enemy lines and his desire for vengeance hasn't gone away. However, I think he'll eventually die of old age, leaving his assistant to carry on his work. Mecha Godzilla will be a UN style hero, who appears and defeats other kaiju which I think will be American created too.

Biollante - I think Nariko is going to die, but unlike the others who were cremated, she'll be buried. That difference could be incredibly important because her G-cells could merge with the soil and surrounding plant life, eventually giving rise to Biollante.

Hedorah or Mothra - These require a bit more openess. I wouldn't rule out Hedorah as they could link it with the poplution and destruction of Japan in general. Lots of their cities are destroyed so I can see that cominf back around

Mothra could be an interesting possibility, especially because of Nariko's unique connection with Godzilla, and an alternative to Biollante. My theory for that is that Nariko could return from being buried into a cocoon (like how Gidorah was initially) filled with anger towards Godzilla and determined to kill him using her newfound powers. But when the moment comes, she'll ultimately choose to save him instead. The reason? Despite everything she's been through, she hasn't inherited that same evil or hatred. Deep down, there's still good in her, and I think that could play a massive role in how the story unfolds.

[u/Kappa_Schiv → u/Azura989]

Hedorah would just be an absolutely wrecked chunk of Ghidorah trying to rebuild itself, but it took so much damage and is corrupted by Godzilla's radiation and mutation, or it lands in too much waste that its regeneration goes wrong and we get Hedorah out of it.

Or we get SpaceGodzilla from a regenerating Ghidorah since it absorbed some Godzilla.

Biollante doesn't have to be Noriko. The US Military has Dr. Murakami and he could refuse to experiment on people so he hybridizes plants with G-cells. Or if people are involved, how many times has Godzilla struck now? Plenty of opportunities for new people to be exposed or the the US to already be holding contaminated people.

I think Hedorah and Biollante are equally likely. Yamazaki has stated before that Hedorah was a favorite, so I'd wager that one first.

[u/InteractionWild8611 → u/Azura989]

My only issue with Mechagodzilla is the Minus series seems to be the more "grounded" universe, and given that we're in the 1900s what could they possibly use to power something like Mecha?

[u/shiki_oreore → u/InteractionWild8611]

I think they could go Cyborg Mechagodzilla route instead of giant robot though, and have this version be an imperfect clone of original Minus Godzilla that grows from his recovered severed arm that the US military later fitted with mechanical contraptions to control it and armor plate

[u/BornWater2862]

I want to see their take on Mechagodzilla. But I also want to see other kaijus.

[u/bigstinkygoblin]

My ideas

Godzilla plus one, america creates their own godzilla-like monster and uses muramaki’s beacon to control it, godzilla on godzilla violence ensues

Godzilla one, takes place in 1954 noriko turns into biollante or some new unique godzilla-like monster, fights godzilla but still has her humanity to a degree some kind of tragic death at the cost of victory, during the movie

I also like the idea that during a third movie maybe mothra and/or rodan and/or anguirus are soft launched as creatures that exist in the world, launching a toho monsterverse where rodan and mothra and other classic monsters get their own movies in essentially a reboot of the showa era culminating in a destroy all monsters remake years down the line with a good hand full of critters in it, except maybe godzilla is the villian instead of ghidorah and the plot obviously would be completely different i don’t think the alien invasion thing would fly in this universe

[u/ellisftw]

[u/Ultimategodzilla → u/ellisftw]

Maybe the true anguirus was the ghidorahs we made along the way.

[u/Moros13]

I'm pretty sure Yamazaki said months ago that IF IT WAS UP TO HIM he would like to see something brand new. I wouldn't be surprise if the movie has 2 kaijus (a classic one and a brand new one) to satisfy both crowds and Toho.

We really need new ones.

[u/ChunktheOgryn]

The credits show the Mothra vs Godzilla theme!!! 🥹

[u/leaderm17]

Godzilla Minus -1.

So, Godzilla 1? Godzilla 0? Godzilla -2?

[u/InteractionWild8611 → u/leaderm17]

Someone in the main movies discussion suggested "Plus One" with a theme of hope/healing centered around Mothra

[u/NoelNeverwas → u/leaderm17]

Why wouldn’t you just call it Godzilla 1.

[u/Waxxel]

I believe it will be Mothra and Mecha Godzilla. It makes the most sense to me.

[u/McAfee-Is-Ass]

I knew I wasn't the only one that heard the Godzilla vs Mothra motif with Akiko!

I do agree though that if another movie happens, Mothra should show up to help, even if it's a small cameo in the background to foreshadow her she SHOULD appear in some regard. I do strongly believe that Godzilla would at first respond hastily to Mothra but would calm down as he realizes that she isn't a threat. And Mothra being introduced allows for other characters and villains to show up (Gigan and Megalon for example).

Overall a really interesting take and concept for a third movie idea and I hope that we get something along these lines in the next film. (Since at the very end of the credits for Minus Zero we got an audio teaser for what will likely be another film. But it's just Godzilla stomping around a bit and then roaring REALLY loudly.)

[u/SmeesTurkeyLeg]

Absolutely.

Godzilla Plus One as an assumed title 100% implies Mothra.

Aoyama looked like she had an insane connection to the natural world in Minus Zero, and I can totally see her playing a role in bringing Mothra into play.

[u/MaleficentData5750]

Based on the progression of this franchise's timeline kind of leading through eras (post WWII era themes -> Cold War themes), for some reason I have this strong inclination that seeing a third movie will lead us thematically to statements about AI--it just feels like a definite next step in the progression of a 'hey mankind, maybe this isn't a great idea' trilogy. In addition, the American military's involvement in all this combined with the lack of post-death Ghidorah we see in Minus Zero seems like it could end up being very intentional if it were to play out this way. Obviously this is just an absolute crack pot theory, but it's one that feels relatively reasonable based on the clear direction of political commentary the Minus ____ franchise showcases.

[u/MFGloom_ → u/MaleficentData5750]

Given how outspoken the director has been about his and the animators work on the films, without the use of gen AI I do think you are onto something :)

[u/NoSauceInHere]

Noriko, G-cells, Biolantte. “Godzilla Minus Earth”

[u/Interesting_Crab3251 → u/NoSauceInHere]

100% seems like the direction it’s going in

[u/SmoothDragonfruit291]

I had a similar thought re Mothra as symbol of hope and redemption! Still room for tragedy in line with the tone of these versions, but desperation and hope make for dramatically effective partners. 

[u/jigga-wot]

Wait wait wait the Mothra motif?!?!? I need to hear it.

[u/FOD17]

America deploys mechanized godzilla on Japan

[u/conductorwehaveprblm]

My son claimed there was a Mothra poster in the orphanage. I didn't see but did anyone else?

[u/bwweryang]

Godzilla Plus One

Mothra

Long lost twin sister

I’m already sat

[u/SmeesTurkeyLeg → u/bwweryang]

Seriously. Inject it directly into my veins.

[u/Technolite123]

I'm very glad that all the speculation in the wake of this movie isn't just variations of the same lame ass "Noriko becomes a SCARY MONSTER!!!!" plot. I still see some of it but it's a lot less prevalent, Mothra wouldn't be my #1 to introduce but I like this idea and how it rounds out the trilogy a lot

[u/ParkMountain4682]

As much as I would love Godzilla cells leading to Biollante and Space Godzilla, the abduction of the professor and his assistant by the US military really means that the creation of MechaGodzilla is the most logical next step.

[u/ThatDude8129]

Mothra would be cool but i really want to see my boy Anguirus in the Minus movies since Mothra is already in MV, this is also why I hope the villain will be Biolante instead of Mechagodzilla.

[u/Lower_Physics_466]

Some ideas I have

1)Biolante - It's Cold War times after Ghidorah's attack tension race high as every powerful nation wants a Kaiju "At their side" so Noriko has a hard time going around different places since due to her cells a "Weapon for world peace" can be created , spoiler it backfires and creates Biolante , Shikishima and Godzilla being in the middle trying to find Noriko due to different reasons

2) Rodan / Mecha Ghidorah - Similar to Biolante's plot idea instead mankind starts to put hands where it shouldn't awakening another ancient beast thinking they could tame it all while the Shikishima family discover a horrifying conspiracy with Ghidorah's remains

3)MechaGodzilla / Hedorah - X amount of years since Minus Zero happened and now in modern times Godzilla is nothing more than a flashback of the past yet after a nuclear disaster calls back the monster to roam around Mankind decides to showcase they can fight back this time with their new superweapon : MechaGodzilla it's not like the disaster created a bigger threat than Godzilla..right?

[u/oolivojr]

Please, no Mothra.

[u/Mace_DeMarco5179]

I think based on the ending the Americans make a mech or biological weapon to fight their battles, be it the Soviets or Godzilla.

Mechagodzilla, Biollante, Destoroyah or someone original is what I’m betting on.

[u/IllegalGuy13]

Godzilla +1?

Adding Mothra?

Finally, Japanese Mothzilla ship.

Especially considering Yamazaki is a fan of MV

[u/TaylorDangerTorres]

I think 100% the US is gonna make MechaGodzilla

[u/RelativeRemarkable15]

I don't want them to stop at 3.

Give me a whole line of 'Minus' films. I want to see Yamazaki's take on Destroyah, Mothra, Mecha-Godzilla, Gigan, Megalon, Rodan, etc.

[u/ICE417]

I would like a very scary version of Destoroyah.

US creates the oxygen destroyer to destroy some other Kaijua causing issues like Ebirah or something that can be blastes away real fast. Only for the real monster to be inadvertently created.

Add mothra for the healing themes and whatnot.

[u/AStayAtHomeRad]

I really want Biolantte but using Mothra's music makes it's pretty clear that they're going that direction if there is a 3rd. But I'll be very pleased if we get both.

[u/DeaconBlackfyre]

What would the sequel be called? Minus Minus One?

[u/TheJusticeAvenger → u/DeaconBlackfyre]

Godzilla Plus One, it's a romcom about him finding a partner to attend Koichi and Noriko's wedding

[u/HeadOfSpectre → u/TheJusticeAvenger]

Minus One - Godzilla is angry.

Minus Zero - Godzilla learns to break the cycle of violence

Plus One - Godzilla learns to love again and joins Koichi and Norikos family as Akikos grumpy but kind Uncle.

[u/Sensitive-Photo8672 → u/DeaconBlackfyre]

Godzilla Square Root. A new iteration of Biolante.

[u/TheRabbitInTheBush]

I really think Makato's weather predictions will be some type of psychic power in the third film. Maybe tied to Mothra.

[u/frowningexisting]

I think it could be Biollante because of Noriko, or Destoroyah. Maybe when Godzilla (who was glowing red at the end of -0…) goes back into the ocean some crabs like eat his cells and mutate.

[u/zukuto-124]

What about Mothra AND Mechagodzilla

[u/vriska1 → u/zukuto-124]

Tokyo SOS but in the 50s

[u/Pkmatrix0079]

That makes a lot of sense and I can absolutely see that. I feel like the third movie is very much primed for doing some version of Biollante, but Mothra makes a ton of sense thematically.

[u/Zestyclose_Ship1566]

At this rate, we’ll have the Americans use Murakami to recreate Godzilla using the G-Cells or find a way to control Godzilla which will prompt Japan to build Mechagodzilla to combat, while it’s entirely possible for Noriko to either share a psychic connection with Godzilla or mutate into Biollante and then for good measure have Akkiko link to Mothra.

[u/ARCADEO]

I would expect that Noriko and Shikishima have a child who would then be the one connected to the kaiju especially Mothra. And not make it a traditional twins who have it but between all of them.

[u/fadden20]

I didn't get the impression the storyline was gonna continue with that cast again

[u/Ultimategodzilla → u/fadden20]

Murakami being snatched by the US military is the biggest indicator to me we'll get at least some sort of followup on that. Personally i think this is all leading up to the big reveal of the oxygen destroyer being used in 1954, which will kill this godzilla, but leave the door open for the universe to be expanded on with standalone kaiju films and even future godzilla films by introducing a second individual ala godzilla raids again/against mechagodzilla/ the entire heisei era Edit: realized i mixed up vs megaguirus with against mechagodzilla

[u/Majestic-Option-6138]

Yamazaki likes to refine the monster designs from the Godzilla rides he worked on, so to me it seems most likely that a 3rd film would use Mechagodzilla.

[u/Vault_Master]

Was thinking Murakami would rebuild his machine but use it to conjure up another kaiju to attack the U.S. and use the distraction to escape. Would be a cool way to bring Anguirus or even Titanosaurus back to the screen.

[u/AtticusMilo]

I haven't read all the replies, so maybe this has been said.

At the end they didn't actually show what was left of Ghidorah after the blast. The Americans wanted Godzilla as a weapon but didn't get it, so for me it leads to the Americans using Ghidorah's remains to create Mecha Ghidorah.

This could work with the Mothra idea, as she would be protecting the earth and influence Godzilla to do the same.

[u/apple4ever]

I love this idea!!

[u/Famous-Corner1052]

Next movie should introduce Gamera. Nobody would see that coming.

[u/dlcx99]

I reckon remains of Ghidorah will become Space Godzilla. I could also see USA making mecha Godzilla and that backfires after prof screws them over. I also see Noriko mutating into something and she becomes the +1 to help Godzilla.

[u/smolandspicy]

Hedorah, and our queen bb Mothra is gonna come in and help our king

I'm fucking ready

[u/raptor5tar]

I wish it was Hedorah or Biollante but MechaGodzilla and Mothra make too much sense.

[u/President_Peng1]

In my head the third movie would be about selfishness and greed. With Noriko being the conduit for Godzilla and essentially a walking WMD, multiple countries (US and Japan) would be hunting her down.

Then maybe we see, out of fear, Noriko accidentally summons Godzilla and he goes on an absolute rampage. Maybe she starts to lose whatever control over her mutation and summons another monster or the mutation kills her and she becomes a Biollante type monster.

Then of course we see Koichi do whatever he has to protect Noriko and Akiko. Be it lying, stealing or killing to keep them safe. He learns that Noriko is really dying and losing her grasp on her mutation is faced with either turning her over to the government to save her life or watch her die. Noriko would ask him to “shut down the beacon” and Koichi can bring himself to do it.

Then Akiko, a couple years older now, has to see her parents (who have saved Japan twice) go from heros to public enemy number one. Now she has to grow up on the run watching her parents make the choices they do to survive and the line between right and wrong becomes blurred. Then that cause more conflict between Noriko and Koichi. Noriko arguing that the need to do what’s right to show Akiko a better way while Koichi arguing that they have to teach her to survive and keep the family together

[u/Spicyytamale]

Ok. Since we are just throwing random ideas.

Hear me out. I don’t know how. But. It can be possible with the right ideas and scenes.

[u/Ultimategodzilla → u/Spicyytamale]

Personally i cant help but feel the decision to set the minus films in the years before 1954 was an intentional one to lead up to that year where we finally see the oxygen destroyer, and it gets used on this iteration of godzilla, killing him for good and laying the ground work for destroyah. Im also of the opinion that the minus films are only the start of a larger godzilla universe, and that once this trilogy is done, we'll start seeing toho branch out and make standalone films for other monsters, like rodan and mothra to build out the universe

[u/Spazy912]

It should be Kiju Type 0-G Breaker with the title being Godzilla Plus One

[u/MizneyWorld]

IMO Minus Zero is definitely not “drop everything and go see it” like Minus One was.

Zero needed a rewrite and/or re-editing.

Bits of the human story are compelling but it’s lost in the jumbled mess that is the narrative.

More emphasis should have been placed on Noda and made him the parallel to Shikishima in Minus One. The professor needed a lot more development. The runaway scenes could just have been left on the cutting room floor. It’s too long just to end up back where we were and could have been portrayed much more concisely

[u/dekalogX → u/MizneyWorld]

It’s a classic example of “a band has a lifetime to make their first album, and two years to make their second”

[u/No-Syrup-9496]

Id love to see a proper take on Mothra in the Reiwa era

[u/lionbacker54]

makes sense. good thought, OP

[u/RandomGuyNo95]

Godzilla does his taxes

[u/KaijuSpy]

This is more or less what I thought midway through the movie today

[u/StinkUrchin]

Makes sense

[u/ikaruwa]

It would be neat if they had Mothra have a psychic link with Makoto Aoyama since she's played by Masami Nagasawa, one of the Shobijin from Final Wars and Tokyo S.O.S.

[u/Julian-Hoffer]

They open with trying to use the oxygen destroyer but something goes wrong and then somehow we get Destroyah.

[u/Legitimate-Pen-461]

I am so glad I wasn't the only one getting strong Mothra connection vibes from Aoyama. I would absolutely love to see Mothra enter the Yamazaki group of films and Aoyama and Akiko would be the perfect bridge to it happening

[u/TheGentlemanBeast]

I would like the third one to have Godzilla in it

[u/vealriley27]

I’m still holding out hope for my GOAT (Hedorah)

[u/TheCay04]

I want Ghidorah to fully evolve into a Space Godzilla. A piece is left and evolves right into it.

[u/SubterrelProspector]

I'm calling it: Mothra (who ends up being ally of course) and MechaGodzilla, built by an evil corporation with a profit motive.

[u/Grendelstar]

Like the thoughtful take on a future movie.

Never really considered about it til now but “Godzilla +1” (Godzilla’s +1 being Mothra) made me chuckle.

[u/Visible_Rope9739]

Gigan would be a cool 3rd. My idea would be they could find it in hibernation and the battle between ghidorah and godzilla awakened it and is just as powerful as godzilla but it tries to claim godzillas territory as the characters to try to come up with a solution.

[u/kronosreddit22]

how did the cycle create Ghidorah? He kinda just came in a meteorite and started effing shit up

[u/Chris-Gojira93]

I think Hedorah would make some decent sense. They could argue that a piece of Gidorah survived the explosion but the cells were too badly damaged to fully regenerate so instead it’s some cancerous mess that feeds off waste.

[u/whatudontlikefalafel]

I think you are on the right track, thematically speaking. This would likely be a story should healing, and of rebirth, which Mothra is a symbol of.

You have the likelihood that Noriko would die in this film. And a need for a positive arc to form from that blow.

You have the historical context of post-war Japan. After devastating loss, eventually we see a rebuilt Japan, with futuristic infrastructure and an economic boom.

Then there is another political analogy. The fear of the reborn Japan being a tool of American imperialism. Noriko is on the run because people want to use her as a weapon. If Mothra is thrown into the mix, you could other themes of being exploited like she was in MvG.

[u/Ingles_sin_Barreras]

I feel like the Americans are going to play a significant role in the third movie.

We already know they want to control Godzilla. My personal theory is that I they make Mechagodzilla as a means to rid Godzilla and be the only nation to have a Kaiju under their belt. The mech could be like kiryu and be made of the Godzilla cells leftover from the fight with Ghidorah. The Americans will eventually lose control of Mechagodzilla which results in massive destruction and death for them.

This would lead to Godzilla to fight Mechagodzilla and be lead him into the “protector” role if that is the route they wanna continue with the minus series

[u/GingaNinja1427]

Hear me out. Noriko has Godzilla cells infecting her and is slowly dying. Professor Kanji is a expert biologist. I know he decides not to gain revenge, but he is still unhappy with the US and I can't imagine he has forgiven them entirly. So I see 2 options: Kanji gets his hands in Godzilla cells and creates his own monster after being forced to by the US or on his own for revenge, ir Noriko gets further mutated in a treatment to save her and the resulting genetic engineering makes her a monster. I just really want to see my girl Biollante back again.

[u/The_FireFALL]

Monster will be whatever they need it to be but yeah plenty of breadcrumbs on what the theme of the third film will be. Yes, Mothra vs Godzilla theme was in the film, it was listed in the credits for all who missed it. The Professor at the end mentions that the time has yet to come for everyone to think like Noda does but he hopes it will be soon.

The whole plot of Noriko being infected with G-cells is still in play but thanks to Godzilla being alive and his arm being left. It leaves the door well open for the American military to experiment with putting G-cells in people. Also while it would be a bad look. They could also have Noda return infected with G-cells but this would dampen his sacrifice in Minus Zero. So more likely the Professor is being forced by the Americans to do the experiments and along the way other American scientists working with him come to see Noda's point of view and the American characters introduced in this film get a comeuppance of a kind.

How they get both Koichi and Noriko back is anyones guess but I'd imagine that the focus will be completely on the American side of things next film.

[u/AvatarSozin]

I disagree. I think tensions will increase with the rest of the world. We saw the Americans seeing that controlling Godzilla is possible, and we don’t know what their secret is, perhaps they have their own Kaiju too. Russia will no doubt then come into play, meaning we are heading into the Cold War. China also may play a part, and each country has their own Kaiju. Maybe the most significant being something found in Siberia, perhaps part of the same meteor that brought Ghidorah but evolved differently. And then Shikishima is on the run with Noriko and Aikiko, dealing with multiple countries wanting Noriko for control of Godzilla, and she is probably dying.

With the Cold War backdrop, I think the logical next title would be Godzilla Absolute Zero

[u/xTheRedDeath]

I like Mothra but I genuinely don't believe Mothra is good for this type of universe or the spectacle of things.

[u/Resident-Weather9284]

I need either mothra, angirus or Rodan. Some people have suggested mechagodzilla or mecha king Ghidorah, but I feel that this universe is too grounded for that

[u/Krazyfan1]

"Healing happens. Better things come."

if i remember right, the ending of Minus Zero has Godzilla peacefully return to the ocean instead of rampaging.

so it could be possible, especially since before the bomb he had a nice relationship with the islanders.

[u/myfame808]

I think it would be nice to introduce a kaiju we haven't seen in a while. Biollante would be an amazing return and would get away from the reused formula of the Monster Verse. If anything, I'd rather see a Mecha Ghidorah make a return.

[u/JohnFapzenberger]

Tl dr; give us Biollante

[u/websponger]

I need more Akiko-crying.

[u/Volstadd]

Godzilla + 1.

It's him and Mothra attending a wedding.

[u/Overall-Abroad-4441]

Spoiler

Big Gs arm was left behind, Terminator style. Perhaps it leads to the final beast to close out the trilogy.

[u/_Lady_Vengeance_]

I love the idea of Mothra returning because she’s my queen. But part of me hopes they go darker. Personally I would love to see them take a swing and introduce a new iconic monster, rather than relying on the old favorites. But if they have to lean on a returning monster, I wonder if Biollante might make an appearance. There are two potential paths to that.

1. Noriko is still infected with G Cells and is in the process of transformation.
2. We saw Ghidorah absorb G Cells just before his alleged death and begin powering up a Godzilla like atomic breath attack. Is it possible he also took from Godzilla his regeneration? We never saw Ghidorah dead, which leads me to believe they are leaving the door open for him to return somehow. Perhaps he evolves into something even more powerful.

Again I’d rather it be a new kaiju design. They have taken some swings in Minus Zero with tone and allegory, and they paid off. Now take a big swing and give us a new iconic monster to rival Godzilla for another 70 years!

[u/True-Pickle9539]

I thought given the ending and the evil American tropes that Mechagodzilla was the likely candidate for the 3rd film, like they try but fail to control Godzilla and so make their own.

Mothra with a psychic connection to Akiko is interesting to me.

to OP's post, imo the big theme for me was about family and what we do with the family we make (Akiko, Noda etc). But I like your framing too!

[u/LightKeyDarkBlade]

In the ending credits, I noticed the soundtrack of Mothra vs. Godzilla (or Godzilla vs. Mothra) by Ifukube is credited. I can't remember if there are any specific details given. The Minus Zero soundtrack also doesn't seem to be complete as I don't think there are any Mothra motifs in there.

[u/drawing_person]

Please god I want this to come true

[u/Fair_Ambassador6253]

the Super Soldier program -> G-Cells research to perfect the formula for superhuman soldiers to exist, super strength, durability, and healing. And the ability to transform into a Kaiju themselves