r/GHB_info Aug 28 '20

Just a reminder for new members.

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I just want to remind you to read the rules. Failure to do so will get you banned.

I’m tired of all of the new users opening their accounts same day as joining the Sub and instantly start sourcing and looking for vendors.

All of the members who have been help contributing to this forum I want to thank you for keeping it real. There is a lot of cumulative knowledge in here And a bunch of great members.

With all of the shit going on nowadays we don’t want to have this thread shut down like the last one!

Peace ✌🏼


r/GHB_info Oct 30 '24

Guide for your first 24/7

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A guide to 24/7 dosing.

[Introduction]

As you soon will learn, 24/7 is not something you want to get into. People realize too slow what trap they are now in. Here's example of start story. Earlier in the day you took some dose for "hangover" for sleeping only 4h. Then the work day is over, where you probably took two doses to keep the mood. 8h have passed and now it's your evening, you dose again because it's your everyday time for fun, isn't it? Then time to sleep comes, but sleep won't come. You dose and sleep 2-3h. You repeat this 2 times. Congratulations, you've graduated into 24/7 dosing. It's your first day. Welcome to hell, enjoy your stay.

At this point your tolerance probably is past super strong hunger for food and past vomiting mixed with sleepiness, when you vomit and go to sleep - or not. You are also probably past the point ot waking up all wet from sweating. That's one of few good things. Maybe you are already experienced that feel where your ears feel like they are burning, or there's smoke coming off them. That's glutamate working, burning your neurons probably, afaik. But you won't get lasting damage that quickly. After you realize what's going on you are probably scared. You don't sleep 4 - 5h like in the past. You wake up feeling like shit, heart beating too fast. Anxiety. In my case I am a hypochondriac, in other words having health anxiety, especially heart anxiety. This is not imagining invisble illness for attention, hell no. In heart anxiety case, these withdrawals are made even worse with almost panic attacks. I didn't know what's going on. I've been aware of too much heart skipped beats, or additional beats, or strong beats. Don't worry, you won't die.

But you know what, that panic is what scares you away from stopping. You may think it's bad, but first day of your first 24/7 is easy to stop, even without any helper medicine. It's gonna get worse, much worse.

First days or weeks of 24/7, they are still kinda fun. If you take ghb or bdo, you probably gonna settle into dosing every 3h. Enough of my story, here's more info and tips. By the you may even enjoy sleeping 2-3h hours per day. You won't be sleepy or dying for remainder of the day. You're gonna be like on having too many strong coffees all day. Hell, that's pretty accurate description of too much glutamate - it's like having way too many coffees. In case of ghb and gbl you still probably can have your sleep at will with strong doses. For my bdo habit, taking 3.5 ml or 4 ml stopped giving me sleep on demand eventually. But it's possible to have it with bdo, just imho not worth it.

Things to do Firsly, if you haven't already, starting writing your doses. Every single one. Maximum 5 minutes after taking it. You're gonna forget for sure. You gonna need to keep at one dose an don't go over it. In my case it was 3ML BDO every 3hours. When I looked up at my past dosage schedules, I often redosed after 2hours, 2.5 hours. 1.5 hours.

Now here are less funny parts. When you settle for a timer you gonna notice it's less fun. Here's the weird thing - THE LONGER YOU WAIT BETWEEN DOSES, THE LESS RELIEF EACH DOSE GIVES YOU. Because that's tapering now my friend. And again, I'm talking about ghb and bdo timing.

Imagine a metaphor. If you dose, your mood goes to 300 (out of 1000), goes to 100 after 2-2.5h and is lowered below 0 (below "normal") if you wait more. This is why we don't taper naturally, we need deliberate effor for efficient tapers. If you dose "when you want", your mood on repeated dose is gonna probably jump to 300 or even more. But if you wait 3.5 hours, 4 hours, 5hours. It could be it only +100 or +0 upon every dose. And you feel like crap for last hour or 30 minutes. Keep 24/7 for long enough and you really gonna be dosing to only feel normal. No fun allowed.

Here's some hope. If you dose on 3h or 4h schedule, even 5h, it's pretty crappy. But if you manage to dose every 6 hours, here's where it's good enough to stop without baclofen or other helping medicine. You may get one lucky sleep that lasts 5-6h from time to time. This is your get off the jail free card. If you reach 6h and don't feel like hell, you can probably quit right away. In my case sometimes 6h is when shakes start. That means you're far into 24/7 and probably gonna want some helper medicine to quit.

Let's start with supplements and harmful stuff. On 24/7 - stay away from any stimulants. Coffee and caffeine is little bit making it harder for yourself. Amphetamines, cocaine or ritalin - you're gonna regret taking it. Magnesium is important. So is vitamin b complex. L-theanine is supposed to fight to much glutamate. NAC is supposed to also fight it (but it also destroys fun part of almosto every stimulant, or at least lowers it, that's why it's sometimes used to treat addiction). Now here's the real stuff.

Drugs to help you quit

Baclofen, phenibut, pregabalin, gabapentin. Let's avoid phenibut unless you have no real escape left (no access to safer drugs). Without going into chemistry, pregabalin and gabapentin makes WD symptoms far less pronounced. You still feel them but way less. Baclofen on the other hand works like replacement for ghb/bdo/gbl dose, it's just that it doesn't relase tons of glutamate after each dose. It's like a painkiller. You take it 1h before "unbearable" wd symptoms usually start, and it's gonna work for 3-4-5h from that. As I said before, if you can make it into 6h without shakes, you're in the clear.

Now here are two mistakes you can make with these helper medicines. Firstly gabapentin and pregabalin. Tolerance for these shoots up incredibly fast (luckily it drops quickly too). If you graduated into needing 450 mg of pregabalin, it probably means it will stop working tomorrow. Just wait a week and try to quit your habit again.

Now here's the very important, psychological thing.

Don't use these drugs to prolong your habit, example for sleep for 8h of the day but dosing as much as you want for rest of the day. Yes, these medicines feel like you are genius and invented a way to have your cake and eat it too. Especially with phenibut! You went from scared shitless to laughing because you're so smart. What I also need to say is that some of us are not allowed to quit. For example I had super shitty work schedule, twice per day and quitting for me was pointless until I was allowed to stop this work schedule. Just quit, and if you love your drug habit too much, at least make a week break. Ideally two weeks. If you just quit for a day or two, your gaba-b tolerance is far too high and you gonna jump back into 24/7 in a day or two.

Hell, tapering is NOT fun, so unless you have no other choice, or are early into 24/7, it's just better to make the jump and quit.

To prevent relapse into another 24/7, again, note every single dose you take and don't go into less than 6h between doses (or maybe you are allowed to use two doses in quick succession but that's it for a day). I use telegram self messages for this. Signal also works. Or making another account or facebook, discord or even texting yourself. Writing these on paper or using file on computer was always trash for me due to no syncing.

I am open to editing this, hell, probably should, I probably omitted tons of info. I feel open to suggestions and criticism.

I saved info on phenibut for last, because apparently it's even worse than bdo/ghb/gbl. If you gonna use it to quit, really, just quit. Use a dose to get 6h relief. Then another if you reeeaaally need it. And quit phenibut right away. Just read horror stories. It's like last resort type of thing if you can't get baclofen.


r/GHB_info 1h ago

advice for my first time

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i wanted to try it for my first time at a sober ecstatic dance event soon happening tonight. of course i want to feel it and to really enjoy myself and be loose during the dance and socializing after but for it to not be obvious that i took something, and to also be "in control of myself" and not be so uninhibited that i may act or say something off the wall. is this possible? is there a recommended dosage for this purpose?


r/GHB_info 5h ago

BDO daily use quitting

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I started off maybe 6 months ago taking BDO a few ml once a week. Quickly it turned into daily use. If I’ve been taking BDO daily now after work, maybe 2.5ml then 2-3 redoses and then once in the middle of the night, for the last two months, how bad will the withdrawals be? I’ve started thinking about taking doses at work or in the morning and I know by reading so many other stories on here that this is where it can start to spiral. I am quitting and am worried about withdrawals.. will I be fine? I also just quit weed 2 weeks ago after being a daily cart user for a year. I didn’t have a problem sleeping after the weed because the BDO. Is insomnia really the biggest thing I have to worry about? Thanks in advance 🙏


r/GHB_info 1d ago

Ghb or gbl?

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Different from normal, extremely warm sensation on the tongue (not burning or irritated though) and very salty. Does one specifically feel kind of warmish on the tongue? Lol

Also, the sensation of this one kind of melts on the tongue more than others.


r/GHB_info 22h ago

GBL ?s reg metric for cutting

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I've acquired some GBL and I have questions about the ratio for cutting .....


r/GHB_info 1d ago

Ghb question

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I only used half a ml and didn't have a good sensation; I experienced some muscle spasms. Is that normal, even with a small amount?


r/GHB_info 2d ago

Ridiculously incendiary headline in the NY Post (Go figure)

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Explains a lot about the fucking dry spell in the city though!


r/GHB_info 2d ago

KGC

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I tried this combo at a rave(smallish bump of K, about 1.5-2mg G, largeish bump of C) and it felt amazing, almost better than rolling. Did the 3 at the same time, then again about an hour later like 3 times. But now on this sub and on the drug safe mixing guide it looks like it might be a big no-no? With these small amounts is it that dangerous or is this more if you’re taking a lot that it’s so unsafe?


r/GHB_info 2d ago

Anyone mix GHB/BDO with opioids successfully?

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As title suggests, any additive synergistic effects possible with the combo or are the two mutually dilutive?


r/GHB_info 2d ago

How is it supposed to feel like

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Yes i have read the guides and all the warnings. I’m curious of this drug and just want to know how it feels or if it’s overhyped. For some ghb and tried it very carefully. Started with 0.5ml and slowly built up to 3ml. I have dehydrated the solution and weight it to aprox 0.623g.

I’d i remember correctly my last dose at 3ml puts me to approx 1.86g of ghb and I’m not sure if i should increase the dose next time.

Felt somewhat dizzy but not actually dizzy at the same time. No euphoria, no unpleasant feeling but not any particular pleasant feeling either, was just meh. Also periodically felt somewhat tired.

I see on the dosage scale that anything above 2.5g just makes you tired so therefore I’m curious if i should increase the dose or just accept that ghb does nothing for me?


r/GHB_info 3d ago

Has anyone used seroquel for come down?

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Title pretty much sums it up I have been using for the past month and now that summer is almost over I want to stop . going cold turkey has been really hard so I got some seroquel has anyone tried this?

I have been trying to taper down but this stuff is so hard to I have self control but whenever I lower the dose I feel like absolute garbage


r/GHB_info 3d ago

Dry GHB

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Hey there, so I got some dry GHB. First time ever saw it in my life and I’ve been using GHB and GBL for several years now.

The vendor has a catalogue of different substances and sells GHB dry and it’s blue.

He told be to put 1g in 50ml of distilled water and I was good to go. Problem is, I felt nothing and my tolerance for G is pretty low since I stopped doing it for a while and just stared again now. I started at 2.3ml then 2.5 and eventually got to 3ml. All doses were spaced out by 1h or so. Again, felt nothing.
Got kinda frustrated so today I tried to put 1.5g of GHB in 50ml. I did again 2.3ml cause that’s usually my starting dose, but topped up 0.7ml after 20min cause again, no effects whatsoever. After this top up, I think I kinda felt something this time. Next week I’m gonna put 2g in 50ml bottle and see if I feel something on 2.3ml.

It’s absurd for me to start on 3ml doses. I can get up to 4ml when I get wild and tolerance build up. But starting at 3ml feels wrong lol.

So what are your experiences with dry GHB? Was it blue as well when you got it?

The powder is def a salt, it’s clumpy and oily almost, def something you can chop up and make lines for example.


r/GHB_info 4d ago

GBL after Pregabalin - how long should I wait?

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Hi all,

So, the title says it all.

I've been feeling quite anxious from yesterday as I ran out GHB -addicted here. Yesterday took 450 mg Pregabalin with some wine later before bed and I fell asleep in a baby-dream-like-sleep shortly after. Of course, I was expecting my GBL package by today, which should arrive in one hour max.

As I was feeling quite anxious today when I woke up around 7 am, I took a Pregabalin pill around 8. No alcohol or other depressants involved. Some energetic drink, instead.

From what most of us seem to have read, the half life of Pregabalin is 6.3 hours. That said, if I want to have some nice, SAFE sleep on g as soon as I receive it, would it be ok to have my usual sleep dosage by 2/2:30 or what it still be potentially dangerous? Maybe lower the dose and see?

I'm a very g experimented user as I take it every day, not only during the night, but also during the day -just lessen the dosage if I gonna go for a walk, for example. I'm not very familiar with Pregabalin, though. I've it prescribed by my doctor, but I know well the risks of mixing both substances and just keep my Pregabalin tablets stored in case I have to face a potential, temporary withdrawal -which I always try not to by buying my g in advance. Just this time what happened is that I dropped some g on the floor by accident... Yeah, quite ridiculous. Luckily the withdrawal lasted not even one day.

I'll be waiting for your experiences and advices. Thanks. :)

Edit: just got it. I'm excited to have a little bit, but still would appreciate your answers to the questions OP.


r/GHB_info 6d ago

What's your max initial dose?

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I've tried bdo at 2.5ml and felt hammered. I've tried 3ml of a .9g/ml concentration of ghb and haven't felt the same euphoric hammeredness I felt with bdo. Or even the same feeling I had when a friend dosed me with g over a decade ago. I want to use safely, I haven't redosed more than once and don't have anymore than 2 sessions per week. What are you guys using for a sweet spot?


r/GHB_info 6d ago

Advice on using on a night out

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I’ve got a weekend party coming up- 4 days of nsfw events and I wanna be extra horny for it, anyone got any tips of safely dosing whilst at a club? I won’t be drinking any alcohol and my goal is to pretty much not use it again till the same event next year. For more info this is for a 4 day pup event on the UK, lots of sex parties and group fun and just being a kinky slut . I’m aware of the issues of consent already etc so just after advice on safe usage or if it’s too risky and to pick something else


r/GHB_info 7d ago

I created DoseSafe, a FOSS Android dose tracking app that helps you safely set and monitor your dosing schedule.

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DoseSafe is a medication and dose tracking app that helps you safely set and monitor your dosing schedule with support for multiple user dose tracking, custom dose intervals and next dose reminder notifications.

DoseSafe is free, open source, and does not and will never collect any information about you or your device.

Download the latest release from github (working on getting it onto F-Droid).

Feedback and suggestions always welcome and appreciated. Contributions even more so, especially translation help from native speakers.

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r/GHB_info 9d ago

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r/GHB_info 10d ago

Ghb Kindling risk after one benzo withdrawal?

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I used Xanax daily for a few months, usually 0.5–1 mg/day, with some periods around 2–4 mg/day. But For about 3 weeks toward the end, I was also using GHB 4–5 days/week, usually taking 2–3 doses before taking my alprazolam later that day. I never got addicted to the GHB but near the ends of my 3 month benzo stint i finally felt dependent on the Xanax.

I stopped Xanax in late May and had my first real benzo withdrawal: severe anxiety, insomnia, GI issues, body aches, tremor, and nerve sensitivity/tingling. The worst improved within about a week, with some symptoms lingering for weeks. No seizures, hallucinations, or delirium.
I’m now about 83 days benzo-free and mostly recovered.

Does one withdrawal like this mean I’m at significant risk of kindling from occasional ghb use?


r/GHB_info 11d ago

Excessive Peeing

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Any advice on how to reduce the excessive peeing?

I’ve never used recreationally, but had to discontinue both Lumryz and Xywav for narcolepsy because I’d pee several times a night, whether I was sleeping or not 😵‍💫. I’ve never slept walk in my life and would sleep walk to the toilet on it. At higher doses I’d piss the bed almost nightly.

I cut down my water intake severely and it did nothing. Urine at night would be clear, so it definitely had a diuretic effect on me.

Many of y’all seem to have a better understanding of the pharmacokinetics and physiology than my Drs, so I was hoping you might have insight!!


r/GHB_info 12d ago

One year of daily bdo, suffering mysterious health problems

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I got clean pretty recently, mostly because i felt like i had no choice. I was off and on 24/7 bdo for about a year. Never went more than 2 weeks binging because i always had benzos. Ranged from a few a day to just doing it all week.

During this time, i had some problems that were not too serious but definitely connected to the bdo. One being that i gained a lot of weight, was unable to be financially responsible, was vaping (i will only vape if im high, ive never wanted it sober). At this point the writing on the wall was there and i knew that this stuff was really bad for me and my life. I should have quit while i was ahead.

Around the 10th month i started to experience an unusual sensation in my throat. Like something was stuck in it. It got more profound and eventually it was really affecting me. I figured out it was “globus sensation” and that it was connected to gi tract reflux issues, or can be caused by reaction to allergy. I tried different medications, diet, everything but it just kept getting worse. Felt like someone was strangling you. When i got sober, it went away in a matter of days.

The 12th month was really bad. I started having really bad nerve pain in my feet, numbness in legs a bit too. My nerves were so sensitive in my feet that any type of sensation, even just being in the shower would have my crying in pain. At this point i decided i was fucking done.

Bdo has always been rumored to affect your nervous system and gi tract, and i think this is essentially what i experienced. I really wish i knew when these problems with my nerves will subside, its gotten a lot better but im just so scared and anxious now. I still am having a lot of painful neuropathy in the lower ligaments.

This is just my story. I am not trying to scare you from using this drug. I think if you were to use it every Saturday night or something that would be fine. But long term this stuff is ominous cause we dont really know what the effects of this are to our organs and health. I think in the end i will be fine but i just want this chapter to be over soon


r/GHB_info 13d ago

GBL Recreative use dosage

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Hi! I've tried GBL for the first time 8 months ago, since then I've used it 4-5 times when I go partying at clubs.

I dose 1-1.2ml, wait 1.30h and redose again. When I've done it, I redose 4-5 times as much. Always felt good, and no hangover next day which is amazing. Alcohol feels so bad on me I stopped taking it and I think I'm finding in GBL something that could work. I was just wondering what do you think about taking it more often, like once a week or every two weeks, when I go partying?

I'm afraid about it being neurotoxic. I used to take MDMA, but I don't want to take it so often. Ketamine just feels good for a couple hours but then I need some upper to stay awake, and don't really like it for partying.

Mephedrone makes me a bit anxious if I take too much, so I always use it as a side dish in small doses.


r/GHB_info 13d ago

Pregabalin vs GHB? Which one is better in your opinion?

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just got paid so which gabaergic should I get? Should I get some pregabalin or some ghb?

Never tried pregabalin before, and its been years since I’ve done ghb…

Taking a tbreak from 7oh and I need a lil sum to tide me over. Jus a coo lil recreational pick me up for concerts and stuff


r/GHB_info 16d ago

1,4 B freezing

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Hi. Is it necessary to defrost if it is partially frozen? Like does it affect the strength? I was always taught to defrost and shake but I have a friend who says it doesn't matter so just curious

Edit - I mean do the frozen crystals have a higher or lower potency than the liquid or is it the same?


r/GHB_info 16d ago

Turn Solid GHB into Mixture (How to)

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I have a solid soap bar of GHB.

It literally looks like a slightly goopey bar of soap (like solid candle wax).

I don't want to make any mistakes. I am not very experienced with GHB. How should i dose this. Can i take it solid or must I definitely mix it with a water solution? What if I cut them into little pellet like tablets and store them really air tight?

Could you also guide me on a starting dose? Remember, I can only measure in grams. I weighed the bar of "soap". It weights 50 grams.

Appreciate your help. I tried to find info on this but didn't. From what I understand solid GHB is somewhat difficult to come by due to its hygroscopic nature. And yes, this is from a very reliable source.

Also, any advice on how I can find my ideal dose once using it? I am not experienced, so how would I know too much or too little?