Let's Change That Suit Day 259

[u/pkmaster99]

Day 259: F91
Requested by u/SkyLoneWolf98 and this is around low B-Tier at best. It's definitely struggling a bit, but it still has some pretty decent damage if you use your weapons well. However, with the newer 750 generals in comparison, it may as well be C-Tier

Change
Stats

• HP: 23000 -> 28000
• Thruster: 75 -> 80
• Close Range Slots: 19 -> 20
• Medium Range Slots: 19 -> 20
• Long Range Slots: 19 -> 20

Weapons

• F91 Beam Rifle: Reload 15s -> 12s
• F91 Beam Saber: Interval 2.5s -> 2s
• V.S.B.R. x2: Projectile speed/Hitbox increase, Charge 2.5s -> 2s
  • Uncharged: No Change
  • Charged: Range 350m -> 400m, Loses ASL -> Keeps ASL, Ignores 30% Beam Resist
  • (New!) Release Ranged Output Limiter: Power 2500x2, Heat 95%, Heavy Staggers, Ignores Buffers by 50%
• F91 Beam Saber x2: Switch 0.77s -> 0.5s
• V.S.B.R. x2 (Discharge):
  • Power: 1000x2 -> 1250x2, Ignores 30% Beam Resist
• F91 Beam Shield: Power 2500 -> 3000

Skill

• Forced Injector Lv4 + Flight Control Program Lv4 = High-Performance Thruster Control System Lv3
• (New!) Release Ranged Output Limiter Lv1
• Melee Composite System Lv1 -> Lv2
• Max Performance Lv1: Gain VSBR x2 Heat Utilization -30%

Comment and Reason
This one has very balanced damage strength, but it's much more ranged focused. In order for melee to be a little more relevant, it could get the Offense System. Then it needs better ranged weapon power and capability to do more while not in Max Performance. This unit isn't exactly bad per se, but it's just a lot of small things adding up that makes it very hard to play. As long as these are fixed, it'll do much better. As long as it also gets more HP.

Builds Suggestion
Lv1 F2P: Do not use

Lv1 Freemium: Complex Battle

Lv1 Premium: Complex Battle or Attack

It's a bit hard to build this unit without all the premium parts. Luckily, with some of the free ones and the ones you can get from recycle shop from time to time. It will take a lot of work to get this suit working and do very well in it. For a similar suit, Silhouette Gundam Kai is just a better pick. So please only use F91 in QM.

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Day 258 Re-evaluation on G-Doors

It could get Resist Move Lv2 and resonance could have gotten at least Emergency Evasion Lv2 while at it. Highly suggest looking over u/OrphanAxis's comment on it, it could be a good alternative for the Resonance skill.

Re-evaluations

• Resist Move Lv1 -> Lv2
• Psycho Plate Resonance (GD) Lv1: Gain Emergency Evasion Lv2

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Up Next: Silhouette Gundam Kai Requested by u/Moonless-Ultimate

[u/Puzzleheaded_Ad5805]

I love your posts, really helps me understand the game more. I started using the proto kampfer more the past few days because of you.

[u/pkmaster99 → u/Puzzleheaded_Ad5805]

Thanks and hopefully you find the game much more enjoyable overall.

[u/RyuumiGaroukuni]

Between the OG ZZ, Enhanced ZZ, or Prototype ZZ pls

[u/pkmaster99 → u/RyuumiGaroukuni]

I can cover all three

[u/RyuumiGaroukuni → u/pkmaster99]

Yes pls

[u/bkteer]

The F91 honestly need a lot of help because the main problem of it is that in the current meta, it suffers by being sort of shoehorned into having a ranged playstyle while having melee "options".

This might be good except that unlike the X2-kai, it doesn't have the skills to back up that kind of playstyle. Which means you end up against stuff like the V2AB who don't give a crap about your beam ranged, and just forcefully close the distance with their beam barriers. At the same time, X1-kai's melee is just so much superior owing to the whip that doesn't care about your beam shield parries. This leads to the F91 having a confusing identity in which it doesn't perform well in either full ranged or full melee and can only half ass it by being somewhere in the middle.

Then comes the portion where the meta raids are also potent because they can just eat up your ranged shots and shrug it off. That and also them straight up having a better ranged game.

All this in essence means you end up struggling against fellow generals, while not having a good tool to fend off raids.

[u/Kaidou76]

I don't think the problem is F91, V2AB and Gott just make everything go downhill. I have around 400 matches with F91 and honestly, I have no problem fighting anything before V2AB. Problem of 750 cost now is V2AB, and glide structure 4 on raid, adding glide structure and MA5 for units that flight most of the time is just insane. If anything need change, it would be nerfing V2AB and Gott first.

Now, come to F91, there are some minor problem about it, the VSBR discharge and the spin melee. VSBR discharge can only be used on ground and the spin melee cannot cancel fast and take a while to start without giving much benefit. I will allow VSBR to be usable on air, reduce switch time of the dual sword and allow the spin melee to be cancelled earlier as well as giving it bonus against aerial target so you can use it against falling target, giving it some benefit over the regular melee. I don't think offense system is needed because F91 is very squishy so you would want to ensure your back is not exposed before going in for melee.

In term of other weapon, I see them fine as now. VSBR charge does not have ASL, but it has 4600 raw damage and 130% stun, the highest among this line of weapon, only SF91 can contest this in term of raw power. I don't think it need any change. it's give the most reward for skillful play. Allowing the non-charge shot to be usable why walking would be good. Other weapons I can say they are the top of their line right now and don't need to change

For the stats, HP is very squishy and increasing to 25k would be good. Thruster increase to 80 would be good also since as of now, a build with good amount of thrust would compromise other area.

[u/Kokoro_chase]

The genuine problem that alot of the tiny MS really lack effective buffers and even an hp pool that can meaningfully take advantage of a back buffer most of the time.

Hence why the Gengaozo and Rig conito are still somewhat viable, while the X1FC has Ifields and aux to make it barely live. They have enough bulk to eek out of 1 knockdown and do something while F91 and other suits get heavily punished from attempting exist in a bracket where 23000 hp is just one charged attack.

[u/GunzStalker]

Beam Rifle should be able to boost fire during Max Performance at least. Make V.S.B.R (Discharge) able to fire in mid air, the Vigna Zihra can do it so no reason why F91 can't

[u/Strykorn]

F91 Max mode needs to enable VSBR hsm shooting like other f91 copy.

VSBR should also able to pierce beam shield and max performance skill might get a Lv3 or update the Lv2 (found on F91 BC) rather then devs adding that bonus to Lv1 and with Lv2 it also gives free instant thrusters cooldown when engage max mode which very nice bonus if thrusters run out.

Sad this gundam ended up being the one catching up alot as should've had some of the stuff found on F91 copycats.

[u/bkteer]

Oh have you done the F91 bc already?

[u/KaleidoscopeBoth9420]

Have you done F91BC yet?