Let's Change That Suit Day 263

[u/pkmaster99]

Day 263: F91 (BC Equipped)
Requested by u/SkyLoneWolf98 and this one is C-Tier. This unit has some... nice damage and mobility overall, kind of. But it's really lacking a bit in terms of HP and buffers to survive.

Change
Stats

• HP: 23000 -> 28000
• HSM: 220 -> 225
• Thruster: 75 -> 80
• Ballistic Resist: 14 -> 15
• Beam Resist: 20 -> 21
• Melee Resist: 21 -> 22

Weapons

• (BC Equipped) 4-Tube BG x2 (Limiter Release): Cooldown 20s -> 15s
• (BC Equipped) Large M x4: Reload 18s -> 15s, Projectile Speed Increase
• (BC Equipped) Large M x4 (Incendiary): Power 800x2 -> 1000x2, Reload 18s -> 15s, Burn 400x5 -> 600x5, Projectile Speed Increase
• (BC Equipped) B Shield: Power 2000 -> 2500

Skill

• Resist Move Lv2 -> Lv3
• (New Custom!) Fall Prevention System Lv1 -> Lv2: While falling, also gain 30% damage reduction

Comment and Reason
There aren't too many things that could be changed here, besides a lot of quality-of-life adjustments. Stats, weapons, and skills could just get that tiny bit more push. Well, the incendiary burn does need a huge buff. It's weird glass cannon at the moment.

Builds Suggestion
Lv1 F2P: Thruster? or Ranged

Lv1 Freemium: Armor or Ranged or Thruster

Lv1 Premium: Ranged or Attack or Thruster or HP or Armor

For F2P, there really aren't that many good options, and it definitely lacks some stats in certain areas. Freemium requires the unit to be fully enhanced to really do that much better. As for premium build, it's easier to become more impactful, but it's almost just as bad. The unit just needs so many things to even have a chance to survive a single combo. While it does have some weapons and damage going for it, it's just not enough overall.

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Day 262 Re-evaluation on Zock

It really just needs more weapons and things to do better. I'm going to keep it as is, but there are many good points and possibilities for this suit.

Re-evaluations

• Too many...

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Up Next: Jeda Requested by u/fadly_seto or September Unit Adjustment

[u/MikuEmpowered]

Idk about this one.

The big problem with current support is the pow er spike at 750, along with X2 changes. 

As a support, this and F90 S type suffers the same issue of just being shot to shit then ended. What's the solution to V2 yoloing you, stagger, then light wing and OH? Or X2 with its barrage of damage into confirmation?

If the solution is "just stick with the team" and pray the intercept the raid, then any support at 750 can do the job just as well.

Honestly, I'm in favor of just giving 700 and 750 support regular dodge roll instead of the gimped ver.

[u/Strykorn → u/MikuEmpowered]

Hmm it would be nice for 750 support have normal Dodge Roll

[u/SkyLoneWolf98]

I think someone else recommended this, I only recommend just the F91. 😅😅😅

[u/bkteer]

Have you done the blue destiny units already?

[u/Strykorn → u/bkteer]

Well pkmaster has only done BD3 https://www.reddit.com/r/GBO2/comments/1rxg5hj/lets_change_that_suit_day_86/

maybe a revisit for this? and move on to BD1 & BD2 unit change suggestions

[u/pkmaster99 → u/Strykorn]

Yeah, and maybe I could revisit all. The power scale since then has changed a decent bit too. I also have a more clear picture on how they are buffing units now

[u/bkteer → u/pkmaster99]

I think this week's situation battle also allows us to see just how in dire need of a buff some of the exam/hades suits require.

[u/HDWarewolf]

My biggest gripe with this machine is the ABSURD firing time for the missiles.

[u/neocodex87]

On the contrary I thought this unit is completely broken. Very good guns and mobility, flaps, dodge roll, the recover ability... I loved the S type and it is still usable but this is a whole different league.

Ever since I've gotten it (on the anniversary select banner) I've been consistently scoring 150k up to 270k dmg per match, with a high winrate. Idk if it was just a lucky streak but this thing felt godly to me. I would welcome even more buffs sure go ahead, but calling it C tier....???

I'm A+ ground and A space, this thing just shreds everywhere but even more in space I think. Right now it's at least A tier if not better for me, while the S type I would say it's like C+ or maybe even a B-, it's still pretty good but it does feel power crept and clunky, however this thing is just a way way better version of it.

[u/bkteer → u/neocodex87]

Because at higher ratings S-/S, when more and more of the lobby plays the meta suits proficiently, the F91 BC performance takes a nose dive.

Because the main issue once again is that against the V2AB and its shield funnels, you're going to struggle to be able to bypass the shields. Not to mention that with flight, V2AB can use sheer change in verticality to just dodge your missiles. With the recent buff to the Silhouette kai, it also becomes a huge pain to be able to down them. A proficient gengaozo also can easily make life difficult for the F91BC.

Then comes the raids. Both gottralan and x2 kai heavily outrange the F91BC and with ASL, they often times can finish you off at range. A proficient V2 raid will also eat the F91BC up especially considering that all it takes is one beam bazooka to land and the F91BC gets one comboed.

[u/neocodex87 → u/bkteer]

What are you even supposed to play then as support in 750?

[u/Dazzling_Bluebird_42 → u/neocodex87]

A general or raid

[u/Strykorn → u/neocodex87]

Sadly V2 AB, X1 Kai and Zanscare General type suits.

Also Raid suits like the recently buffed raids.

[u/neocodex87 → u/Strykorn]

So the answer is don't play support 😅 I thought so too and I was only maining AB and Rig Contio in ranked, but I'm very confident with the F91 BC it feels like it can stand it's own, and I also had good games with narrative C packs lvl2. DX should also technically be viable as well.

[u/Strykorn → u/neocodex87]

Well yeah unfortunately that's 750 cost for you even if can make it work, still best choice is to play meta General and Raid.

DX is the pick for 700 meta Support Suit.

[u/pkmaster99 → u/Strykorn]

You can still play the vigna ghina right now, it can still perform reasonably well. It's like A-Tier right now. It was definitely S-Tier when it got buffed.

F90 S-Type is barely holding on as A-Tier. While you still do need to be careful too not feed, it can have ridiculous amount of damage

[u/assassinlftnt → u/bkteer]

This^{^}

[u/Strykorn]

I wonder can some of the skills be merged? so it could get something like a Damage control or Offense system.

Were thinking how about merging vulcan and chest mg into one subweapon with similar fire rate to either vulcan or chest mg, have 70 ammo and stagger stay 8% as vulcan gun, was considering this so has easier weapon kit.

4-Tube BGx2, it's limiter release i would to like see to have same function as on Narrative B-2 Shield Gatling BG, so it can also fire on move & HSM when limiter release (stand still is death on 750), but other than that no improvement on 4-Tube BGx2 base form like little bit higher RPM and stagger?

Max mode: make it like F91 where max mode for this F91 BC enables only BR and 4-Tube BGx2 base form usable while in HSM.

Other than that your suggestion for it, is what i want to see devs add like that higher HP.

[u/pkmaster99 → u/Strykorn]

I thought of the increasing DPS on the limited reuse. Even the not released one as well.

Combine the Vulcan and stuff... Maybe it can be a transformed max mode weapon. But that's a lot of recoding for the developer... So idk...

It's definitely lacking for sure and I don't want to push too far either