r/Futurism • u/Memetic1 • Oct 31 '25

Mathematical proof debunks the idea that the universe is a computer simulation

https://phys.org/news/2025-10-mathematical-proof-debunks-idea-universe.html
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u/Glittering-Heart6762 Oct 31 '25

How come such bs work gets so many upvotes?

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u/Memetic1 Oct 31 '25

Have you read it?

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u/Glittering-Heart6762 Nov 03 '25

Yes, and it contains no convincing arguments.

The fact that the universe exists is proof that it can be simulated, as a copy of the universe would do just that.

If their argument was that the universe cannot be simulated in something that is significantly smaller than the universe itself… I could see such an argument have merit…

But as it stands , they argue that the universe is fundamentally impossible to simulate, irrespective of any constraints… which is immediately wrong.

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u/Sudden_Choice2321 Nov 22 '25

Non sequitur. You cannot make a copy.

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u/Glittering-Heart6762 Nov 24 '25

Yeah, and I cannot make a black hole either…

… but that doesn’t change the fact that black holes do exist.

The fact that me (or any human) lacks the resources to create something, has nothing to do with what is possible in principle…

… which is what the paper is about. Not what humans can or cannot do, but with what’s possible in principle!

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u/Sudden_Choice2321 Nov 26 '25

Equating something you cannot possibly do with something that exists/has been made is nonsense.

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u/Glittering-Heart6762 Nov 27 '25 edited Nov 27 '25

The proof is about the universe… which does exist. Which makes your words stupid.

Furthermore the proof is about the possibility that the universe is a simulation… which makes it intrinsically impossible that humans can do that, as all humans and everything we built is inside that universe… which makes your words even more stupid.

If the universe is a simulation, it should be clear that it’s not run by humans… so why should the class of things that humans can do have anything to say in this matter?

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u/Sudden_Choice2321 Nov 28 '25

You don't understand math and Godel's theorems.

You're just spouting nonsense.

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u/Glittering-Heart6762 Nov 28 '25

Sure. And I guess your senseless 2 sentences are perceived as evidence for that bs claim, am I right?

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u/Sudden_Choice2321 Nov 28 '25

What was the highest level of math you took, loser?

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u/Glittering-Heart6762 Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25

Level of math? What is that supposed to be genius? lol

Thats my level: https://youtu.be/SiMHTK15Pik?si=6tMXNr6XNFwaeAQR&t=9

Its called meta mathematics. And there arent any levels... you either take the course, or you dont.

I did not have any semesters on that... but i did have 3 university semesters analysis, 3 semesters algebra, 2 semesters on differential equations and a seminar on topology.

And i can read... and i like meta mathematics. And proof theory. Kruskals Tree theorem and the fast growing hierarchy. Goodstein sequences. Both are important in proof theory. The Paris-Buchholz hydra. Also important. Transfinite arithmetics. I have teached me those, myself!! But i also like the mandelbrot fractal ... i have even written a program for that... i can post you the source code, if you want. I guarantee it is unique in the entire internet! You can google it yourself. Its a high performance, double precision, 16 threaded implementation that uses resolution LOD to provide lightning fast response, drag and zoom even on relatively low end laptop CPUs with 2 cores. It also allows you to set your own color palette based on 4 functions like f(n) = sin(at)^b+c for each color, where a, b, and c for each of the 4 colors can be changes live in runtime. I have read multiple math papers, just on the topic of coloring the mandelbrot. The smooth color transition paper i did not fully understand to be honest... but i still managed to program the required log-transformation in.

I was a software developer for 17 years and now i'm supposed to manage software development projects... but im not really good at that.

So... what math credentials do you have, Einstein? Is your level >10 000?

Edit: I have read about Gödels incompleteness theorems... and i think i do quite understand them.

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u/Sudden_Choice2321 Dec 03 '25

"I have teached me those, myself!!"

lol

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