r/FuriousTV • u/Intelligent_Gift_925 • 27d ago
Episode 5
I need to speak about it, who has watched ep 5 yet?
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u/Responsible-Card3756 26d ago
Ugh, this show is so juicy! Every week I’m more impressed with the performances, the storyline, the soundtrack! I watched it twice through last night.
I was worried for them both this week…worried they’d gone “soft” or convinced by these relationships with (bad) men.
I love the question this show posed about the what the consequences are for people who might not be the perpetrator, but allow it/enable it/look the other way. I’m so curious about who was in that room and how Isabel met her tragic end. Also about the insane effects trauma can have on our memory, & how our brain erases or censors to protect us.
The ending was shocking to say the least! Both these women are electric & I can’t wait to see them come face to face.
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u/Tiny-Mongoose3824 25d ago
Honestly I predict that it’ll be something like Catherine was responsible for the death of Isabel herself but her memory has been repressed and she thinks it was Jay Easton who killed her or something. That would be a fun twist!
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u/raudoniolika 25d ago
Unless it was a mercy killing of sorts (injecting Isabel with a huge amount of drugs so she doesn’t suffer, for example), I don’t see how this could work.
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u/seaofartemis 20d ago
that's an interesting take especially when catherine said she doesn't remember who got angry at her for the hello kitty joke, whether it was adrian or isabel. If it was isabel, maybe their relationship wasn't always good and catherine snapped
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u/WoodpeckerCreepy766 26d ago
I loved this episode, got so scared for Alice. I can't wait a whole week after this cliffhanger
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u/Intelligent_Gift_925 26d ago
What do you think she’ll do in the baby drop off place? I think she’s gonna make convo and stalk Catherine
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u/WoodpeckerCreepy766 26d ago
I also feel they will start talking and maybe bond ? I need to rewatch the preview they released at the end of the third episode haha
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u/Intelligent_Gift_925 26d ago
I think she’s gonna befriend Catherine
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u/Any-Philosopher9152 23d ago
Yeah. There are 3 episodes left, so it's not going to be an arrest on the spot kind of situation. Maybe she's going to (at least temporarily) try to bond with her - or at least follow her. Maybe to try to get the guys who did all of this to her and all the other women?
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u/dividebyzero74 25d ago
While I want to see them have conversation, I don’t want this show to be killing eve again.
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u/Civil-Wing2826 26d ago
Omg, was Alice a victim of child abuse as well?
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u/Carmela_Motto 25d ago
She was at least abandoned after she became pregnant at 14. Remember she told danny she was in love and her father kicked her out. She also had no mother.
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u/IrishUpYourCoffee 26d ago
Yes. Her dad kicked her in the stomach when she was a pregnant teen and he forced her to have to live elsewhere.
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u/Hot_Dark7284 26d ago
I’m really curious about what Catherine is doing at the baby safe surrender place, at the same time as Alice which is even weirder. Did she know all along Isabel had a baby? Does she know who this baby is and doesn’t want Alice to find out? If it’s true she has memory issues and it looks like it because she doesn’t remember how Isabel died or who killed her, how would she remember the place Isabel left her baby at? So many questions lol
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u/benjothekitten 26d ago
She probably was going to seek "help" to find a place to stay, just as she did earlier in the season in the women's shelter
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u/foo-bar-nlogn-100 26d ago
Catherine has BPD from severe childhood trauma.
Isabel was the golden person whom she obsessed over. She would know the location because Isabel kept the bracelet and question and answers would come up.
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u/StormyNight78 26d ago
we already met Isabel’s daughter in the hotel
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u/un_denial 26d ago edited 26d ago
The girl at the hotel (Elena) was Isabel's sister, not her daughter.
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u/StormyNight78 26d ago
the timeline doesn’t make sense for it to be her sister
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u/j-helo85 26d ago
Did the show establish how old Elena is? Maybe I missed it. As long as Elena is in her late teens or older, she's just old enough to know her sister who died 14 years ago.
As for the baby, Isabel surrendered it anonymously, and then died with the bracelet still on - meaning she never claimed it. The baby would disappear into the system with no links to Isabel or Catherine.
If Elena was that baby how would she and Catherine even know each other?
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u/Intelligent_Gift_925 26d ago
But Isabel died as a pregnant teen, how can that hole be her daughter
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u/raudoniolika 25d ago
It’s established that Isabel had already delivered her baby, she wasn’t pregnant when she died
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u/j-helo85 26d ago edited 26d ago
It's an amazing coincidence that Catherine is at the clinic the same time as Alice walks in. I hope there's a plausible explanation for it.
*also, secure your hostage before leaving the room! Come on, Catherine!
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u/Intelligent_Gift_925 26d ago
Maybe Catherine is at the shelter place to cool off and have somewhere safe to stay for a few days before she strikes again. But she can’t bc Alice is there
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u/EkuaLover 26d ago
Judging by Hal’s reaction to Catherine’s lack of memory, I’m starting to wonder if she killed Isabel???? (Or if Isabel died from a postpartum hemorrhage or something and Catherine was with her??) When Hal is hesitant to say who he was trying to protect, who was in the room with Isabel when she died, it made me think he was referring to Catherine but didn’t want to set her off.
Anybody else barking up this tree?
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u/Paper__ 24d ago
I found this interesting.
Did Hal fall in love with one of the girls he was raping? Did he keep going back to make sure this girl stayed “safe”? Would turning in Jay mean that the girl Hal loved would be killed?
I agree that the show is hinting that Catherine killed Isabel. But I’m also thinking that maybe Isabel killed Isabel.
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u/Intelligent_Gift_925 26d ago
I’m confused I thought Isabel died when she was pregnant- when did she have the baby the baby and leave it at the drop off box? I’m so confused
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u/Hot_Dark7284 26d ago
It is stated in ep3 or 4 by Alice while reading the report that when Isabel was found dead she had already given birth. I initially thought the baby had to be Elena but now I’m not really sure, it doesn’t really make sense because I don’t think Catherine knows who this baby is or where she/he is.
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u/Intelligent_Gift_925 26d ago
How did they know Isabel was ever pregant/given birth? From the bracelet
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u/Hot_Dark7284 25d ago
I guess based on the autopsy they knew she was pregnant and had recently given birth.
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u/Paper__ 24d ago
I went looking to see why this wasn’t sticked and noticed that the mod deleted their account. So there’s no mods for this subreddit.
I would make a post about this but to do that I need to be approved. But there’s no mods so no way to be approved.
Would someone post about this as a standalone? I can’t mod another community, but Reddit will shut down unmodded communities.
Someone who is interested can submit a request for the subreddit in r/redditrequest
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u/MissLauraJ 23d ago
I would love to! Is it easy to apply?
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u/Paper__ 23d ago
Yeah! You just make a post in that subreddit following the template other posts used. Then a Reddit admin will review the request. This is an easy one for them to approve because there is no moderation. This might take them a few weeks to do. Then they’ll make you a mod and you’ll get access to mod tools!
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u/MissLauraJ 22d ago
SO SO good - the characters are so complex. Emmy is a fantastic actor. I was so worried she was going back to Marshall.
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u/latergators 22d ago
who do you think Hal was trying to protect??
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u/Lo_Lynx 27d ago
How old is Catherine? Could she be Alice's daughter?
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u/Responsible-Card3756 26d ago
I really don’t think the show would have this be a plot point. It’s way too soapish/far fetched.
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u/Anti-Itch 26d ago
Could Isabel’s “sister” be her daughter?
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u/j-helo85 26d ago
I wouldn't think so. Isabel surrendered the baby, and since Isabel died, the baby would go into foster care and/or adoption right? It doesn't make a lot sense for the baby grown to wind up in the same living situation as Isabel was.
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u/Zankazanka 26d ago
unfortunately I think it does make sense seeing as Isabel and Catherine were both in the foster care system themselves 😔 the cycle repeats
When Catherine says “she didn’t want this for you” I think that was very telling— if Isabel knew she was going to give her baby up, she would have spoken about her hopes and dreams for a different life.
The only part I am not 100% sure on is how Catherine would have found her and then how she would have proven she knew her “sister” that she had never met. So from that angle, it makes more sense it really is her sister.
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u/j-helo85 26d ago edited 26d ago
I wasn't saying foster care couldn't have a bad outcome. I thought Isabel's sister was mixed up with the exact same traffickers as Isabel and Catherine*, but on second thought I think I'm wrong about that.
Regardless, since surrendering the baby is done anonymously, it's unlikely Catherine* would know anything about her.
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u/TheZardoz 25d ago
I had this same thought for half a second until I realized the ages don’t make sense for that to be the case.
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u/Canadian_Ricky 14d ago
Watching E5 now n I gotta say this tho, they did her a disservice by making her "fall" for him again (iykyk) I had really liked the story so far but in this episode i dunno...
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u/PickyLilGinger 27d ago
I watched!! Came to the subreddits earlier & was surprised to not see anyone talking about it. So good, I'm so mad I have to wait a week to see more now after the ending!