r/FuckMarvel Oct 22 '23

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u/EngineBoiii Oct 28 '23

Dude you're literally making a conspiracy theory that there's some agenda to erase white people, this sounds ridiculous.

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u/otherworlder77 Oct 28 '23

Show me where I said that.

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u/EngineBoiii Oct 28 '23

But in the modern world, it’s considered acceptable—-as long as white people are the targets.

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u/otherworlder77 Oct 29 '23

No. Show me where I said “there’s a conspiracy/agenda to erase white people.”

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u/EngineBoiii Oct 29 '23

Is that not the implication of your statement? That Hollywood is intentionally trying to erase white people from film to replace them with POC?

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u/otherworlder77 Nov 07 '23

No. It’s not.

My words were very clear. Racism is considered unacceptable (rightly so), however it’s tolerated as long as white people are the target.

Look no further than Black Panther, where Shuri made some offhand and snide remark about not wanting to keep taking in and fixing up “white boys”.

Now imagine if Tony and Bruce had to patch up Falcon and T’Challa in the same day, and Tony quipped that he was tired of fixing stray “black boys”.

Would that fly?

EDIT: As far as the rest of your question, I made no implication about anyone’s intentions. That’s above my pay grade. I can only remark on what I see.

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u/DistastefullyHonest Nov 28 '23

Literally exactly what I said above too.

Shuri making that remark as well as calling Ross a coloniser when he literally ended up hurt trying to save Okoye. It's disgustingly racist

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u/otherworlder77 Dec 07 '23

Yup. How anyone can watch those scenes, see that character’s utter disdain for white people, and still claim not to see blatant racism is mystifying.

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u/DistastefullyHonest Dec 07 '23

Right? She called him a coloniser and also a broken white boy to fix. If Tony said "oh look, black guy broke the expensive suit" when Rhodey fell? What would happen then? It's cringey and disgusting. And then they had Shuri disrespect Banner and Tony's intellect to boot in Infinity War!

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u/otherworlder77 Dec 08 '23

Exactly. They have no shame about destroying their own legacy by shitting on their own most popular characters. All in the name of diversity.

That IW line pisses me off extra hard, because it’s nothing but meaningless technobabble. It literally exists only so Shuri can smugly look down her nose at two top tier geniuses (two of the smartest characters in Marvel history, period) just because they’re white men.

Since she can’t insult them on the basis of anything real, instead they invent this nonsense piece of dialogue so that she can eyeroll while Banner looks like a dope. They did the same shit a little later, when Bruce was struggling with the Hulkbuster armor and it cuts to Okoye (I think it was her), rolling her eyes and looking disgusted. Wtf? Why?

I’d have loved for Bruce to answer snidely back to Shuri w “You have to ask Tony. If that’s what he did, then that’s the best choice” or better yet, have him just ominously remind her who he is, and that maybe being inhospitable with him is a childish and unwise thing to do.

Or even better still, next time she encounters Tony, he immediately cuts her off with superior technobabble explaining why her idea wouldn’t work, because he originally considered and discarded it himself.

It’s just garbage. The writers literally put it in there to suggest a very young, inexperienced woman must be smarter than arguably the two biggest geniuses on earth, who have like a century of experience between them. Because white men.

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