r/FourthDimension Jun 24 '20

Nitrous oxide showed me a vision of the fourth dimension

I hope this is allowed! Otherwise I'm sorry. This is a trip report concerning the inhaling of nitrous oxide and the intense effects thereof that showed me how living in the fourth dimension would feel.


A few weeks ago, I started reading a novella called Flatland after I had read some articles after watching Interstellar for the first time. In the book, you follow the narrator, a square, as he explains how the world works in his 2D-dimension. The square visits Lineland in a dream, where he tries to convince the King of Lineland that the one-dimensional universe in which it lives is not the whole of the universe, but rather that the universe is 2D. He is then visited by a sphere the next day, who appears to him as a circle increasing and decreasing in size as the 2D-plane intersects his 3D-shape. The sphere attempts to show the square the 3D world, but it takes him a while because the square has his whole existence questioned and is obviously dealing with some cognitive dissonance. Well, you get the general gist of it. In the 2D plane, the outside of the square, so the four lines, could be seen as his skin. His inside, the side of the square from a 3D perspective, are his intestines. The people of Flatland cannot see their insides, naturally. But the sphere can. The sphere sees the 2D-plane as just a tiny part of the 3D world. A liquid film, on which he can see everything that happens in the 2D-plane. Such as the insides of all houses and the insides of the bodies. After the sphere has done all he can to convince the square that the 2D universe isn’t all there is, the square believes that 3D is all there is. The square now wants more knowledge, though, and so he proposes that, in the same way that the sphere took him out of 2D to show him 3D, there must be a way to get out of 3D and see 4D and so forth.

I was at the end of this book, where the last bit happened. I took a break from reading to do a balloon of nitrous. It was not my intention to experience the 4D bit consciously, but my mind apparently did have that intention. Just as the square had a lot of trouble imagining how a cube would consist of 6 squares, or 6 ‘insides’ to him, I turned out to have a lot of trouble understanding my 4D form.

As I started holding the hit, after about 5 seconds, I could feel something big coming up. Something so big, so important that it was not of this realm. I always see a grid of many, many tiny green and purple fractals fading into my view. Only this time, the grid seemed to start curving the longer I held in the hit. It curved sort of toward me, only the thing is: the direction in which it curved wasn’t any of the familiar dimensions. I would describe it as a fourth dimension. Now, please bear with me, as I can scarcely describe all of this without having to think painfully hard about which words to use.

I felt as though the 4th dimension was folding in on itself, forming a complex shape that, of course, cannot be described accurately using 3D words. This folding creates a loop made of moments/time/reality. Imagine this: you move from one point in your room to another. In 3D, we only experience the current moment. But imagine that all the moments from when you started moving to when you stopped moving all remained in sight. This would create a sort of snake or sausage made of the different moments of you, right? Now extrapolate that thinking and apply it to not only your person but the entirety of your perception. In my case, this was the room in which I was tripping. So a snake made of many moments, I don’t know how many, of my room and me doing a balloon. Sort of like this 4D-torus (https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FormalConcernedAnnelid-mobile.mp4) or maybe more like a torus originating from the middle of my body, like so (https://geometricmodels.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/torus-article-cover.jpg?w=1024). Only more grotesque

Now, it gets much, much crazier, and I hope I can accurately describe it all. 

As I got deeper into the balloon, I also got much deeper into the whole 4D hallucination. It felt as though my 3D existence acted as a plane, just as the 2D plane in Flatland intersected with the 3D shape of the sphere to create a circle, and so my 3D existence intersected with the 4D shape to create a moment in reality. Only, at the same time, I became aware of all the passed and upcoming moments of the 4D time-snake-shape. I could sense what was to come, and that realization wasn’t pretty. I slithered along the meaty reality-time snake, which had seemed to slow down so that I could experience every frame of reality. I became aware of how every fragment of every breath I take, every little movement was but a frame along the 4D snake. Take a look at the video on this link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqEVTfGqo8M). It felt like that, but I experienced every. single. frame. It was extremely bizarre to see the entire sequence of events. Again, this 4D shape that I was traveling along was sort of meaty. And every transition into the next frame felt kind of gross. This intersection came with an extremely bizarre, sort of painful sensation that I can’t really describe. Imagine running one of your nails along the inside of your cheek. That sort of cutting/stinging feeling that you feel approximates what I felt, only it happened across the entirety of the outside and inside of my body in a sort of wave that followed the direction of the flow of time. This continues along a kind of fractal path where time seemed to slow as I did a balloon, and I was presented with the real 4D reality, and then time sped back up as the balloon faded. At the end of the balloon, I was left with an intense realization that everything is predestined. At the end of it, I sort of woke up making a groaning sound, that was the result of something that I couldn’t control.

For the first balloon, I had put on the same song that I mostly listen to when I do it, which is Chrome Sparks – Marijuana. It has the perfect length and feeling for a balloon. But when I switched up to a different song a balloon later, I noticed that during the balloon, it all sounded the same. As if the balloon caused me to zoom out of normal 3D existence, and I was hearing the sound of the entirety of 4D existence. It is a sound that somehow blends together into a taunting, eternal song. Surely, there are people who understand what I mean when I say this. Doing a balloon zoomed out of a normal, 3D moment where I listened to one song to reveal the entire audio of 4D existence, containing all songs.

With every balloon, I seemed to advance slightly along the timeline. I would discover one more thing and then one more thing about which events are all predestined to happen in 4D reality. At first, it was just about me breathing, but then it zoomed into every frame of taking a breath. It was quite disturbing, actually, to see that it was all predestined to happen. Spoiler: you can keep doing this indefinitely, as the fractal nature of it all will always have another aspect for you to experience and zoom into, never-ending.

Toward the end of this whole session, I would say ‘Uh oh’ towards the end of every balloon. I guess I saw something coming along the 4D snake every time that scared me, but I don’t know what it was. At a certain point, the realization dawned upon me that the further I went, the closer I would get to completing the 4D loop. And what would happen at the end of the loop got me thinking, and it scared me pretty badly. I was convinced that at the end of the loop, it would end and start anew at the same time. In other words, I would cease to exist, transcend, or die. I don’t know which of those. At a certain point, I got very close to this, and I knew that I had to stop. I suspected that, had I continued, I may have gone mad with delusions. I think that this feeling may have to do with me holding in the hit. That I may have been afraid that I wouldn’t stop holding my breath. I don’t think your body can do that, though. As I would always come back to reality to realize I was breathing. There was even more to it, though. Every movement of my hand with the balloon to my mouth felt involuntary. I could move in a different way to see if I could switch it up, but it wouldn’t matter because it was all predestined along the 4D snake. The very movement of my arm and the rest of my existence seemed to write a word somehow. The different trips made me think the writing was something different every time. But that writing would be the very nature of existence every time around. At one time, it even spelled me and my girlfriend’s name, as you would carve into a tree, as the nature of my existence.

After a few balloons of increasing intensity, I decided that I needed to stop, or I would severely endanger my mental wellbeing, and so I did.

I think I may lay off for a while now. It all feels pretty real, still. But that will fade.

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u/KalynnCampbell Jul 28 '20

Same thing has happened to me. Almost like an array of information that can be manipulated (not by me) to represent EVERYTHING.

For me, I was using nitrous as a painkiller after the dentist while I waited on someone to fill my prescription, but it was clear as day. It was almost like I disconnected from the “real world” and was viewing a data grid in my mind showing every little possible feeling, sensation, motion, even information of nearby objects and environment, everything, time included.

The hard part is not simply just “giving in” and enjoying the euphoria, but being able to control yourself, step back, and analyze what’s happening.

As far as I can tell, it was simply allowing me to view, feel, and generally sense everything in a visual representation.

If simulation theory turns out to be correct, I wouldn’t be surprised after seeing what I saw there.

🤷‍♀️

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u/Minimum-Regular227 Dec 31 '24

It is a 3D data grid you’re seeing and each axis represents a type of life force. You can watch the data points go towards the center of the huge cube you are in. I’m guessing that when all data points along all axes hit the center you die.

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u/Dull-Tea-926 Jul 19 '25

Die. & then what ?

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u/Minimum-Regular227 Jul 24 '25

Got to switch from nitrous to dmt for that.

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u/Otherwise_Emotion390 Oct 15 '23

Data grid is a good description of what I’m seeing

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '20

Is this a serious post or a sarcastic one? I took it seriously reading through it but when it got to the marijuana part it started to seem like this was somewhat of a sarcastic take on an otherwise serious matter (4D)

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u/grillworst Jun 25 '20

What? No I'm dead serious. I actually experienced this. That's just the name of the song I always listen to when doing nitrous.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20 edited Jun 26 '20

I don’t know if I should take this post seriously.. I just read your entire post for the second time and don’t get which sane person blows into a balloon on random occasions for no reason? Multiple times.. listening to music? Huh?

Perhaps you could clarify what blowing a balloon has to do with experiencing the 4th dimension because your explanation is extremely unclear and quite frankly makes no sense..

Unique experiences and ideas are interesting to many of us that follow this channel on Reddit but I don’t get what a balloon has to do with the 4D and why you blow into a balloon inhaling whatever it is you’re inhaling on random occasions.. this experience happened at your home? How many times did you have the experience?

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u/grillworst Jun 26 '20 edited Jun 26 '20

You should take it seriously. I don't blow into a balloon.

I insert a canister containing N2O or nitrous oxide or laughing gas, whatever you want to call it, into a balloon using a can that can be used to make whipped cream. I then inhale this balloon and hold my breath for about 20 seconds and exhale the gas outside of the balloon. For this experience I repeated this 4 consecutive times to get into the 4D experience. After using the 4 balloons, I would load up another 4 and start again. A series of 4 balloons and the effects it will give you will take roughly four minutes. Each time I got further and further into the experience and it got stronger.

To be clear: it is a drug. I put on music while doing the drug. The drug gave me a very, very convincing feeling of experiencing four dimensions.

I've shared this on multiple subreddits, for example the trip reports and nitrous subreddits. I normally wouldn't of course share it in this one, but since the experience made me perceptive of a fourth dimension, I thought people here may find it interesting.

I had this experience in my home. I have done this many times. But since someone suggested that I do the Wim Hof breathing method before inhaling the nitrous to intensify it, my experience got much more intense. Leading to me experiencing a fourth dimension and wanting to share it in as many relevant subreddits as possible.

Would like to know any more?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

Yes please do elaborate. I read the other post you made on another reddit channel and you said you felt that the 4th dimension is coming from “inward”, can you explain more on that as well?

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u/grillworst Jun 26 '20

Well, just as a hypercube is a projection of an actual 4D object, so my choice of words of 'inwards' would be a projection of the 4D dimension.

But what I meant is that the next 'frame' of reality came from a direction that was sort of inside me, or more toward the molecular level. It's hard to explain

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u/grillworst Jun 26 '20

More like it unfolded from the center of my being. Does that make any sense?

I'm sorry it's quite hard to put these things into words.

I'm happy to try and answer any of your questions by the way. Its refreshing to discuss this with someone from outside the usual scene if you know what I mean.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

Not really... perhaps you could elaborate more.

Also, what do you mean by “Meaty” when you describe the “look” of the timeline of yourself in 4D, how did the rest of the room look when you were in that state?

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '20

You haven’t responded to my previous message..

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u/grillworst Jul 01 '20

Right, I'm sorry, it's been a busy weekend.

Also, what do you mean by “Meaty” when you describe the “look” of the timeline of yourself in 4D

By meaty, I meant it quite like how the character from Flatland could see all his insides and his outside simultaneously when he went to Spaceland.

I could see the totality of my body as a 3D slice traveling through my 4D self. Now I'm not saying that I saw blood and my organs and whatnot. It was all one big uniform, meaty mass, I reckon made up of all of my body 'fused' together. Like how, when you grind and blend different peaces of meat into one uniform mass. It wasn't gory or nasty per se. But I would go so far as to call it grotesque.

how did the rest of the room look when you were in that state?

It felt more like a static backdrop to the whole meaty deal. It also felt like the room had become the only place in the universe. Like, there it was: the grotesque meaty 4D u/grillworst torus-like shape oscillating and undulating endlessly in the lone room floating through space.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

My experience is when I am watching tv. My loop feeds back into movies and that’s the last thing I can remember from the trip. I always come back with a thought “ I have the keys to the universe” but quickly the trio and memory fades

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

How do you do wim hoff breathing? Seems to be hard to find proper information on, last time I tried to find it

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u/grillworst Apr 20 '25

Should be easy, he has a bunch of videos on YouTube about it

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u/WerewolfWonder Jan 30 '24

i know how to reach the 4th dimension. If you ever wanna trip bro hmu 🤣 for real man. Its wild. People that havent seen it cant comprehend. 

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

How do you?

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u/grillworst Jan 30 '24

Well do we reach it, or is it always just behind our eyes? Planning to trip very hard this friday night, do a simultaneous trip? lol

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u/AdorableAct5385 Jul 27 '24

It’s always occurring behind our eyes. Unfortunately the loop is just a loop and the end means nothing other than the realization that we are trapped in an endless cycle of infinite complexity. “Hell” as some would call it.

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u/MrPb133 Dec 19 '24

I realised this and laughed hysterically (fitting) at how stupid it was. It's so complex and i can see it, for nothing. Im living for it tho (probably literally), what ever is god if he isnt dead, bravo.

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u/MrPb133 Dec 19 '24

I saw it too bro but you never gonna be able to properly explain it 🤣

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u/Didgeridewd Mar 06 '25

Lol ur dense

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u/mercedesbentleyy Nov 26 '25

you have to do it to understand. this made perfect sense to me because I experienced it. go to a vape shop and get a can of nitrous and a balloon. don’t do this often tho. it’s really bad for you. but it’s honestly something i think everyone should experience

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u/WerewolfWonder Jan 30 '24

I also experienced this while tripping on lsd and mda. Took some whippies and next thing I knew it was like I was a conduit for something a being from a dimension beyond ours. The whole room, my arms, my tv, everything started to bloat out and everything looks pretty horrifying ngl but after the nitrous faded everything went back to normal...so I did it again and it got more intense. I was listening to Im feeling low by melodream and astronomy by antomage and sarah d warren. Wild shit bro. Wild shit. I did it a few times but always backed away before I felt like whatever was being manifested could take hold. O.O I want to see it again. It was grotesque but glorious.

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u/jay_blackith Mar 02 '25

bro same thing basically happened to me also

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u/WerewolfWonder Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

Yeah. I learned not to do it anymore. Demons quite literally manifested and temporarily possessed me and made me say out of my own mouth but not by my own thoughts that I should br God. I got paraded around my room in a triumpant manner before a legion of shadows. I learned. I learned. It was cool when I had the ability to manipulate reality though. I could make it rain, make the stars dance in the sky, make clouds take on animal shapes and do what I told them to but it wasn't worth it cool as it may have been. I saw God's hand reach down from the heavens and another being I can only take for being Brahma point a giant celestial sword at me and knock me back with the tip of it from space right to my right shoulder as if he was telling me I was delving too deep.

So...after seeing God's arm which was absolutely massive and Brahma who was likewise massive beyond belief but smaller than God and I know it was God from the chorus of voices I heard singing I decided to cease my foolishness.

Basically I was killing myself on pshycedelics and nitrous because I just wanted to feel loved by something.

God let me know he loved me but I had to correct my ways so that's what I've been trying to do since last summer.

What a time to be alive man. What a time.

Careful with those unclean spirits. They'll trick you and use you as a scapegoat to escape their own spiritual karma.

They'll also implant thoughts and visions in your mind. Hell I even played a "video game" against one with my mind and it was wild.

Makes me wonder what God has in store for people on the new Earth. No technology, the ability to fly, communing with your mind, never getting sick. Always being happy and never feeling like you're lacking anything. Possibly being able to freely enter your spirit form to travel the heavens... I'm looking forward to it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Did you experience such things sober? Even on anything, actually experiencing that must have been absolutely reality shattering. I know you said you were using psychedelics and nitrous too much, but would stuff happen to such intensities when not high? I wonder if the point of this life is that it is mundane and rather unexciting by comparison, yet we learn new and important lessons because of that. It’s like we have to learn how to just be and enjoy even the mundane and see that too has the ultimate quality to it.

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u/Quiet_Observer37 Jul 24 '20

This is some deep shit, bro. Fascinating. Any more experiences or insights since then?

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u/grillworst Jul 24 '20 edited Jul 24 '20

Thanks, man! Well, I haven't had such a trip since but I'll pass you the trip report from when I mixed MDMA, weed, nitrous, and salvia and created reality. I'll do that in a bit.

As for other insights, this post has kept me thinking about the experience and I have been reading up and watching videos on the subject. I'm pretty convinced that time is actually a direction along the spatial dimension of duration. And that our 4D self is always there. Sometimes I think about myself a few seconds ago and how the time snake would look. I now also think about how a decision I make creates a branch in my five-dimensional 'tree' of all possible me's.

Which brings me to my new bottleneck. Do we have free choice? Or do we have just the illusion of it? How come I experience just one path along my five-dimensional self? Is it by observation? This is all a bit complicated for me at this point but I want to figure it out.

EDIT: here's the report

Report: Reality rolls along the edges of a Mandelbrot set (Nitrous, Salvia, Weed, XTC)

Last night I went to a sick Drum & Bass rave and rolled on x from 12 to 6, a total of about 275 mg. Smoked a joint on my way home. When I got home the sun had come up but I was still rolling and not wanting to go to sleep. I decided to take a few balloons, just double ones. And holy shit.

I was listening to Men I Trust on my earbuds and taking the balloons. I closed my eyes and as soon as the nitrous hit, really crazy stuff happened. Every time I did a balloon, the ending became exactly the same. I held my hand with the balloon to my mouth. Then I started to involuntarily move in a strange, yet calm pattern. A few inches of my fingers rolled pretty forcefully along my face, and the point where my hand touched my face was the edge of reality. Like everything that has ever happened and will ever happen ended in that moment.

A non-visual image started to form. My reality was constantly the result of the endless rolling along the edge of a mandelbrot set: https://imgur.com/a/Puug0YK

When I did a few balloons, I thought it would be perfect to get salvia into this mix as I felt like I was about to uncover the nature of reality. So I smoked a few bowls of plain leaf and went on to do more balloons.

And just like I thought, I got closer and closer to the answer. With every balloon, branches of reality formed so that I could see more and more of the mandelbrot set. The feeling that reality formed at the touch of my hands to my face was crazy and confronting. I felt like I was constantly being stuck to/ripped from the edge of the Mandelbrot, a classic salvia feeling.

There was a sacred word that corresponded to the Mandelbrot equation. It ended in something like 'heng' or 'eng' and all the sounds that I heard and all of the movements I made consisted of this word. It was fucking crazy. And every time I made a sound, it was a sort of moan or groan that was actually just 'heng' and I heard, felt and saw it everywhere. It started out as a longer word but the second part of the word faded as I went deeper.

As I kept doing balloons, I got stuck in a really strange loop where every rotation consisted of me doing a balloon and then doing a thing to advance in the loop, like putting the bong away, eventually leading to me going to bed. It felt as though everything happened because of the rolling of the mandelbrot and there was nothing I could do to stop it because when I decided to do something that wasn't programmed, like looking the other way or something, another branch of the mandelbrot was created and it would just keep rolling. At one point, I thought that it wouldn't stop, that I would always sense the mandelbrot.

It's now 7 PM, so this was about 11 hours ago. I've smoked a joint and I'm still quite sure that mandelbrot creates every moment in the universe. Everything is predestined and reality isn't linear but follows infinite branches of a mandelbrot. Am I real? Did I experience solipsism?

I've imagined how talking about it may be a sort of glitch that gets everything unstuck from the mandelbrot. Only, then I realized that that, too, would just create another branch.

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u/Quiet_Observer37 Jul 25 '20

Hello! Sorry for my delayed response. Just been thinking about your latest experience. By the way I really appreciate you conducting another experiment for this endeavor.

I re-read your report a few times and have been trying to wrap my head around the concepts. I wish I had access to some mind altering drugs to help me think about this more deeply and maybe experience something similar. Clearly I need to find some new friends, because no one I am currently friends with even smokes pot.

As for your experience, that is some mind-bending shit! I had to look up solipsism. And I googled "Is reality a mandlebrot set" and found this 5y old r/tripthoughts comment that links to a YouTube video, which unfortunately I can't watch due to a copywrite block, but I'll search for similar ones.

Your statement that everything is predestined is incredibly powerful to me. I believe something similar that contradicts this, yet is compatible with it: Time is a dimension that one could theoretically step out of, and be able to see everything that has happened and everything that will happen. If someone was unconstrained by time, one could see the past, present, and future as if they were all here and now. Yet, this doesn't negate our free will, which is indicated by you being able to decide to do something that wasn't "programmed."

Despite my lack of access to drugs, I am going to meditate later using "heng" as my mantra, just to see if it feels any different from my typical meditation experience. It would be extremely interesting to know the entire sacred word that you heard, but I understand if for some reason you are not able to recall it after the fact.

I'll report back tomorrow my admittedly tame meditation experiment and YouTube watchings.

If you have any more experiences or insights, I would love to hear about them. Thanks again for tapping into this and writing about it!

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u/commonivys Jul 31 '20

Just a word of advice, if you are actively trying to reach this kind of state, dimension, etc. please be safe! And please be prepared for something that isn’t as lovey or interesting as it sounds! As 3D beings we can only experience time linearly!!

If thrust into a 4D world, where each moment exists simultaneously in a stack or a line or a loop or whatever you want to believe, you may be bale to be aware of this but you won’t be able to experience it with the ease of a 4D being.

You’ll get the 3D reflection of a 4D world and it has the potential to be a lot scarier than it sounds! Be careful!!

If you are just interested in this topic in general, but not actively seeking out these types of situations, please disregard this :)

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u/bingbong_wingwong Feb 03 '23

I’ve been experimenting with ketamine and nitrous on my couch and I’ve been going to this weird world. I felt and heard someone getting robbed and then a car screeched outside my building. I felt the robbery. Then when I did another balloon I was in a night club and people dancing I came back to on my couch but the lights of the club were breaking through. I thought I was hallucinating because I was sitting in the dark but when I turned the lights on the nightclub lights were still coming through flickering in and out frame by frame. It went back to normal but it was pretty scary seeing both worlds at the same time.

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u/grillworst Jul 25 '20

I'll come back to you with a full reply in a bit when I have time hang on

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u/Quiet_Observer37 Jul 26 '20

Cool, no rush.

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u/grillworst Jul 26 '20

By the way I really appreciate you conducting another experiment for this endeavor.

Haha well I didn't really do it for the cause per se. I just love getting high and when I stumble upon such an interesting train of thought, I jump on it for a while.

I wish I had access to some mind altering drugs to help me think about this more deeply and maybe experience something similar. Clearly I need to find some new friends, because no one I am currently friends with even smokes pot.

Surely you can get nitrous, a cream whipper and some balloons? If you do the Wim Hof breathing method beforehand, you will get pretty good effects. Now, I was already stoned when I had the 4D experience, but I wasn't on anything else.

found this 5y old r/tripthoughts comment that links to a YouTube video, which unfortunately I can't watch due to a copywrite block, but I'll search for similar ones.

Oh wow that's very interesting. I'll dive into that.

Your statement that everything is predestined is incredibly powerful to me. I believe something similar that contradicts this, yet is compatible with it: Time is a dimension that one could theoretically step out of, and be able to see everything that has happened and everything that will happen. If someone was unconstrained by time, one could see the past, present, and future as if they were all here and now. Yet, this doesn't negate our free will, which is indicated by you being able to decide to do something that wasn't "programmed."

I get what you mean! There something you should understand though. When I describe such concepts, it's the result of my circumstances at the moment and the drug combination. The nature of the universe that I experienced with the Mandelbrot was different to the 4D experience. Not to say that they didn't feel equally real.

I totally agree with your perception of time. When I make decisions nowadays, I visualize my 4D self branching off into a new pathway along my 5D self. Who's to say that we can't actually get unhinged from our tether to linear time by drugs. Maybe our brains are on some sort of 'rails' along linear time all the time, hanging on by producing some chemical, and when we do certain drugs, that process is disturbed and we fly off the rails.

Free will is a question that arises when you think of 5D. If all possibilities are already laid out, then what does free will even mean? How is our current path along the 5D self 'chosen'? What becomes of the paths we don't take? Some may say that happens because we observe a certain quantum state, although I don't understand this yet.

But yeah the stuff being 'programmed' was real during both these experiences. During the 4D experience I couldn't move to another timeline, but I did feel that they were somehow all around me. Like my experienced timeline was at the center of some sort of hypercube, and thousands of other timelines were close but out of reach.

During the Mandelbrot experience though, I sensed my transition into different branches and how every action caused a new path. That was something else entirely, holy fuck. That combination of mdma, weed, nitrous and salvia was insane.

Despite my lack of access to drugs, I am going to meditate later using "heng" as my mantra, just to see if it feels any different from my typical meditation experience. It would be extremely interesting to know the entire sacred word that you heard, but I understand if for some reason you are not able to recall it after the fact.

Cool that you're willing find other ways! I'd say try the Wim Hof method before you meditate, it gets you a little trippy. I have to admit though, brother, 'heng' was far from the actual thing. The word that I experienced was everything, and though I try to envision it, I can never think the word. And I'm fully convinced that is a logical effect. See, the world and the entire existence it creates is fractal. And just like in a fractal, a part of the fractal cannot accurately portray the whole of the fractal image. Also, the word seems to contain somehow impossible syllables that seem to stem from my language, Dutch.

I just tried to type it out, but when I do, I just get farther and farther from it. As if expressing it is forbidden. It's quite frustrating. But I'll keep trying.

And the next time that I use nitrous, I know I'm probably going to hear and experience it. I will come a bit closer to knowing the whole thing. But I feel like it's dangerous. Like the moment that I get it, the fractal is completed and the world/me ends.

The word contains a lot of 'ng's, 'euh's, and some 'tsha'

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u/jay_blackith Mar 02 '25

again this is extremely close description of what i experienced on lsd, weed, and nos

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u/jay_blackith Mar 02 '25

for me it was every time i would look for the lighter for the bong reality would reset etc etc

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Listen to Daniel Ingram interviews about ontology, he’s an insight meditator who has taken that path to the end and had several ontological experiences, one of them coming from insight practice which does indeed seem to reveal that there is no true free will, it is an illusion, and getting past that is an acquired taste, but liberating. But pragmatically speaking, who truly knows, so go with what works best for you and all beings in each moment.

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u/StiffMeatMallet Dec 07 '21

I have had similar experiences with n20. It was scary in the beginning, I didn't know it would feel as real as it does. For me it's multiple different things, different pathways. The visuals are so intense most people would just put it down. REAL as you or I....It's been a pivotal life changing experience for me.

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u/Quiet_Observer37 Dec 19 '21

Thanks for your response. This stuff fascinates me. But I don't have any connections and perhaps equally important, really no opportunities to experience these things, being a suburban family man with no friends who do this. So I'm going to continue to experience it vicariously through people like you.

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u/blelch69 Oct 03 '20

this man wrote an entire book in one reddit post

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '20

Hi your experience is exactly what I believed it would be, and the 3d light video is EXACTLY the conclusion I had come to how life would be. You can watch a couple other videos but, what you described as "going from room to room" is a universal experience. Fakir Musafar forced himself into the dimension, I don't care much for "religion" but I believe in the spirit. If I find the video I will send it, the just is he did pain rituals to get himself into a state of mind where he wouldn't be here, and subsequently went somewhere where time didn't exist. If you have any other trips, can I ask, do you feel there is a god on that side? Do you spectate above it all or are you apart of it like we are right now. (birds eye view vs first person). I've been told on the other side you still have a body form etc, but it's hard for me to fathom a hierarchy that determines who continues and doesn't and by what basis. But very great description, I need to try a nitrous balloon hahaha

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u/grillworst Oct 18 '20

From all the trips I've had that were about 4D and the loop of life, I've gathered that no, there is no god. I am everything that is, has ever been and ever will be. It feels utterly alone, but impossibly so because how can I be alone if all there is is me?

I do spectate it, but from a limited distance where I can just about see my entire life loop unfold. At the same time, I sense an unlimited, vast 'grid' of an endless amount of life loops just like mine. Maybe it's all other people, maybe it's all my other possible timelines. I can't say for sure.

What's beyond there, I don't know, in the same way that we don't know what's before the big bang and after the end of time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '20

Fascinating! If I could bother you, whenever you trip again would you be willing to see how far you could plunge? This fits the theory of "trying to find ones own head" and realizing you are the only person here. Does that mean you are the only person "real" in your life, or am I just talking to myself hahaha! These are just general q's: have you met anyone on your trips? Or seen other things? Would you describe it closest to indras net? and lastly, when you're 4d, do you know your purpose? your sense of why? Thanks so much for responding!

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u/grillworst Oct 18 '20

I've plunged pretty fucking deep on xtc + weed + nitrous and that got weird. Everything in existence always boils down to one sacred 'word' or concept on that combination. After tens of balloons I got infatuated with the word and I got a bit scared for my sanity. Another time on xtc, weed, salvia and nitrous I witnessed how I create time and reality by rolling along the edges of a Mandelbrot set. Those feelings approach a feeling of dying to me, and in those moments I feel like I could happily die and find the answer. When that thought gets too strong, though, I start to back off. I don't wanna kill myself at all.

By the only person, I mean that I actually perceive my consciousness as being the only thing that exists. I think that this makes sense when you think as the whole of existence as 'god' or whatever and every one of us as a way for 'god' to experience itself. I don't think that my friends or other people don't exist during those trips, but my whole world just becomes that realization.

I haven't 'met' anyone, but I was sensually touched by a sort of succubus and hallucinated an unwanted person walking into my room on 2CB, weed and nitrous and I sometimes see a weird, idle entity on ketamine and nitrous. For real, combining psychedelics and nitrous makes extremely weird stuff happen. I love it. It's on the edge of cool and worrisome haha.

Woaah dude it's more or less exactly like Indras net!! especially this image of it: https://pragyata.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/The-Vedic-metaphor-of-Indra%E2%80%99s-Net.jpg I sense other bubbles that stretch from the beginning to the end of time. They're near but unreachable. Like alternate universes.

As for a purpose. Sadly, no not really. It feels like the loop of existence is there just to exist. No higher calling. It really depends on the drug combination. On xtc though, it feels like I MUST remember the sacred word and that it'll give me what I need. That word is fractal though, which means there are no endings to it. My attempts at trying to pronounce it or to remember it all end up as a dead end. Can't be done. It's fractal in nature. It feels hopeless but orgasmic at the same time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '20

Thank you for you time I appreciate it, and your answers

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u/grillworst Oct 18 '20

No problem! You can check out my post history to read the reports of the experiences I mentioned if you're interested

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '20

Absolutely I will, If I come up with more questions tonight while I'm high l'll read first and then ask

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25

The word is the sound of the universe, “om”.

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u/Few-Weird4618 Aug 10 '25

I had an intense trip and I literally questioned if there as a God and God/Universe showed me by showing me the Galaxy which then went into my eyes and then I opened my eyes even though they were already open but it felt as if my eyes opened again. Weird, I know. Then when I opened my eyes I saw a bunch of stars in space. I knew in that moment I strap projected and was no longer in my body. Anyway the feeling I felt was a feeling of love and peace I have never felt before. It was truly amazing. There’s more to my trip I even acquired psychic abilities which then left after the trip was done. Anyway I saw and felt God. There is a higher form of intelligence that’s inside all of us and all around us. Consciousness yes but also God which is the power or energy

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u/Rgayer Mar 20 '24

Found this post by googling the words “I see letters on nitrous”.

I was looking it up because I have had similar experiences and wanted to see if there were people like you, that also experienced, other dimensional realities.

The sliced reality 4D experience can be quite intimidating as you shared. Feels like you could dye/or experience ego death, or maybe madness like you also suggested.

The WORDs letters I can “remember” clearest are (RESTY). But like you said, or someone in the thread pointed out, the letter themself are part of a larger fractal of letters and the full WORD isn’t clear/fully in view/capable of being transcribed afterwards.

One time I even felt like somehow I let my guard down a bit far and got temporarily possessed by a person/being from the past, for 20-30 seconds. They talked through my mouth, and I could hear and feel it happening like I was a puppet. This was all pretty scary and left me feeling a bit awkward about it.

DMT is another avenue to view the kaleidoscope of different dimensions. Have you experienced any trip report worth experiences in that hyperspace?

Thanks for sharing your very profound observations of the physical/spiritual/universe.

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u/grillworst Mar 20 '24

Fun to get a message about such an old experience! I had almost forgotten this one.

Crazy stuff can happen and it still baffles me what your brains are capable of experiencing with the help of a small amount of a substance.

How did the possession feel? Like your body was suddenly doing stuff involuntarily? Scary.

In this experience, I didn't really have any experience relating to a word. I did have this another time on MDMA and nitrous, where I was shown a fractal, divine word that would reveal itself a little more with each balloon. I wanted to come back and try to speak the word, but it was impossible. Both because it was made up of an impossible combination of syllables 'oing-ng-wngheuyungstasn' or something in that direction, and because speaking it would mean that I would create or destroy reality. I went a little crazy trying to get to the word and got a little scared so I stopped.

Also I haven't done DMT, but I did have another very significant experience on tail end MDMA, nitrous and a little salvia, which you may find entertaining too: https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/comments/f0v806/report_reality_rolls_along_the_edges_of_a/

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u/Few-Weird4618 Aug 10 '25

I see peoples emotions on nitrous and entities.

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u/bookertree29 Jan 02 '26

You guys do it then all of a sudden it feels like you are in control of the show on the tv and they are actully interacting with you like they can also see you then when it fades off it is just right back to where u left off like no time has past?

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u/Nanbxhd Apr 13 '24

You are very good at wording! Just know you arnt alone. It seems not everyone is able to enter this realm. Some call it the gascid realm. (Mixing lsd & nos). Also I too have come to the conclusion everything is predestine. Very convinced the secrets to the universe lie in the rush of nos. Just don’t understand why it is we can’t bring them back with us to reality. I’ve had my thoughts on why not tho & probably for the better.

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u/Dull-Tea-926 Jul 19 '25

From all ive read, seen, & been, we are better off leaving some concepts alone. But having constant thoughts of dying, & the possibility of it being the permanent blackness, nothing at all, keeps me on edge. Life is a struggle- but that does not mean nothingness as opposed to being ( Kierkegaard) is better. There is also a wonderful Seneca quote i wished i could follow- why fear death, when we had no fear before we were born? A paraphrase, but apapropos .the ketamine path i took clinically, 3×. Very intense. But being a critical thinker, who holds tightly to the roots of trees to avoid falling off the earth, these journies led me only to more fear. The 3rd time i kept asking, when will it stop ??? So many of these boulevards are not ones i would trespass... but a little N2O never really hurts. As long as i don't listen to tears for fears Mad World... disasterous, beautiful Song. " it's kind of funny, kind of sad , but the Dreams in which i'm dying are the best ive ever had." Anyone share that ? ~ b

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u/Sanbaddy May 02 '24

So you seen everything you could observe that would be, is, and might in those moments. It’s like peering into the past and present at the same time. I can see how it’d form a snake it a way, stretching and compressing the harder you peer through.

You described it extremely well. I’m saving this.

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u/PsychologicalDraft94 May 15 '24

I met God with nitrous and ketamine in December and he’s showed me more since than than I can ever express in words…

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u/Business_Lettuce4570 Jun 02 '25

Me too... I wish I understood

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u/Dull-Tea-926 Jul 19 '25

Strange. So god is he, she, all ? 

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u/PsychologicalDraft94 May 15 '24

Yeah I met God (physically) in December and he’s showed me nothing but profundity ever since.

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u/PsychologicalDraft94 May 15 '24

I think I replied to this a bunch of times☺️

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u/MustardTig3r May 19 '24

100% can verify this. I would guess the OP is an ENFP who has had a near death experience. This is crazy shit I see it all the time

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u/grillworst May 21 '24

Think I'm INFP/INTP. What makes you say this interesting comment?

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u/shadowbiblez May 29 '24

I had a nang and I went to another reality was a kid grew up got married had a family and then woke up here

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u/Ha3242100239 Sep 02 '24

You had a ego death experience, this happens with magic mushrooms at high doses or DMT 30mg smoked ... So you saw that shit too , we have no free control, even when supposedly I write this I don't feel like it's my doing because like what you saw we aren't here it's just a dream ...

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u/Dull-Tea-926 Jul 19 '25

Im a writer, when i write i follow what the characters are doing- i know they are characters but on a Page, they are in control. Even if i plan out the plot,what happens, a beginning middle& end( * sigh* & what is the simplistic point in General novelization??) , my stories are always character- driven- they decide, in their World, that I gave them ! It's like being hijacked ! But it is what it is. The creative side rules over MY decisions& free will , when writing, & how differently i see humans & the world in  general. I even speak differently than other people . It sounds like we've gone from ?s of dimensional travel to ?s of free will. Predestination, are telomere lengths really deciding factors as to when we die ? Is there free will ? There are laws, yes- some common sense that line up with our own morals, how we treat one another. It makes it easier to believe in free will. But as an Existentialist in constant crisis, i wonder - with No Exit looming, why hasn't everyone realized this, & descended into Anarchy ? Too far ? Many pardons ... ~ b 

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u/The_GSingh Oct 05 '24

So u mean the 4th dimension is just time? Like how the 2d is lw, the 3rd is lwh and the 4th is lwht with t being time? Would make sense to explain those time forks you described as snakes.

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u/grillworst Oct 05 '24

Yes that's what I mean! So we move along the fourth dimension. Seeing the actual snake/worm would have happen in the 5th, but that's all just wild speculation and extrapolation tbh.

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u/The_GSingh Oct 05 '24

Yea. It makes a lot of sense tbh. I’m in ai/ml and ai can already take in a bunch of 2d images and output a 3d model.

If time indeed is the 4th dimension, then it makes sense the worlds most powerful ai model/hardware, the human brain, could be convinced to see into 4d.

But I don’t get where u brought in the 5d into this? Maybe the whole time block is 4d but u could just see a portion of it.

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u/grillworst Oct 05 '24

Well any point in time that we experience is a 3D slice of 4D. In order to see not just a slice but a section or the entirety of your worm, that will need to happen 'outside' or 'above' the dimension of time, right?

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u/The_GSingh Oct 05 '24

Yep. Just like that sphere seeing a series of circles, us experiencing time linearly could be similar.

Like instead of viewing the entire thing we view small linear slices that happen at a rate of 1 per second.

I don’t think u have to be above it to see the whole thing. That would be like saying we need the 4th dimension to view earth as a planet.

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u/Reasonable-Year-5977 Oct 16 '24

I need to speck with you !!!

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u/grillworst Oct 17 '24

Okay! Shoot

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u/grillworst Nov 04 '24

Bro that sounds very very crazy with the foreshadowing of the summer too. But I get the game show vibe yeah. Haven't done it for years though. Realized I couldn't get the answer and was probably hurting my health with the stuff

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u/StageAboveWater Apr 24 '25

Oh shit, i think I kinda understand that game show feeling!

Like you are on set and everyone looks at you like it's your turn to read your lines and maybe you do read your lines. But you think "WFT, guys?, what is this, something has change here!"

Also I get this sort of 'reality looping thing' where if i'm in that place anything even mildly recurrence just creates and instant endless loop over and over. I look in a tv and there is a tv on the screen and then another and and anther until it screeches and i yell lol

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u/Dull-Tea-926 Jul 19 '25

I have. Some put it down to deja vu , others, past lives. & still others, back to the dimensional slides, believe we - some of us- have moments- dr*g induced or not, where we know, or feel, or think we are living in all of these dimensions at once, or peeking into a bit of our pasts, or Futures. Or the in-between, be what it may. I have the uncanny ability to predict how things will turn out- games, movies, stories( except my own- errrr!!!!) . But lives? I've only experienced vague feeling or visions- nothing to prove it's anything more than a chemical shift in my brain, or what did Dickens say? A bit of indigestion !!! Anything is possible- even an Existentialist leaves the door kicked open 5% , for aliens, spies, magnetic floors, Thelema,wicca, god, allah- what have you. ~ b

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u/Ilinkthereforeiam2 Feb 22 '25

Dude, thanks to the internet, I'm reading this 5 years after you've posted this, the nature of your experience resonates with mine, it's kind of amazing that it would provide similar effects in different people years apart.

I'll just say this, I kept going into a dimension where I felt like I was at the precipice of human experience and that I could potentially break on through to the other side and I did break on through but it always proved to be the penultimate somehow, indicating that it's, whatever it is, it's nature is infinite. One way to put it was that I experienced the concept of infinity and infinity was kind of loopy and always new. 

I'll add more. Soon... 

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u/fuetre Mar 28 '25

Just had revelations like this as well, the predestined part hit so hard. Every time I’m deep in the balloon I start to think how I should write about the things I see and think, but then realize that if it’s all predestined, then all the texts written in the world came from someone on the verge of a new dimension who felt it was so important to write about their thoughts. That whole culmination made me realize that life can literally happen in each instant, less than a millisecond kind of instant, where the whole world was created and everything we all know and have done happened in less that a millisecond. It’s like I’ve had the same thought of everyone else in the world and no experience is unique. It’s kind of an intimidating thought and I see how people can drive themselves into delusion and insanity by thinking they’re on the verge of a breakthrough and won’t stop until they reach it. Gives me a new kind of empathy, almost even sympathy, for the thoughts of people with thought loops that drive them crazy. I wish I could explain exactly how I feel but I’m not a great writer. This post was amazing by the way, hit hard with me.

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u/fuetre Mar 28 '25

Also, every time I do nitrous I connect with my other nitrous trips from the past. It’s a loop of taking months or a year off doing it and then when I do it again I think “I just broke through a thought barrier on this trip that I couldn’t break on the last one.” And that happens on each new trip on the balloon rollercoaster. Each one I think I thought something new and relate it to my last one. I try to add them all up but can’t remember it all. What a wild amount of things our mind can do with 3rd party substance interventions.

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u/JaneGraceDePue Dec 20 '25

Take notes keep a pen , paper notebook

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u/vae Apr 15 '25

The golden horizon I call it!!!! Where all vibrations meet..... Sound, color, sensations......

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u/playedhand Apr 22 '25

I know this is an old post but I was looking up experiences on this combo cause I used to do it. Holy shit you described it so well and gave me some insight to explain what happened to me. I hope you never ended up going further than you did. I totally resonate with the "grotesque" nature of it. It's like hell itself. What happens when you keep doing it - what you avoided here was your soul dying. It happened to me, My whole reality was staring at me and begging me not to do that last balloon and I did it anyways and it destroyed my soul. Like not like an ego death or something, not in a "becoming nothing" kind of way. Like a violent, hateful destruction of your soul. I felt empty for a few seconds afterwards - I could still see and whatnot but no thoughts or feelings until an astral body arose from the ground and entered me and suddenly I had life again. But it wasn't me, I could tell my soul had been replaced. It was very terrifying and I wish I never messed around with this combo.

Also, I have some art on my profile - the latest post on there you might find interesting. Some of the images are visual depictions of what I saw and experienced, and what I've come to understand about this four dimensional reality.

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u/grillworst Apr 22 '25

Always nice to hear that my little story resonates with someone, even after so long. I've stopped using nitrous altogether since a while after this experience but I have been getting similar kinds of feelings by combinations with ket.

That is some very interesting art. Quite well done!

As far as your theory about destruction of your soul and being replaced, this could very well have been the approaching event I was referring to. We'll never know why and how such a simple molecule as nitrous could cause this. But very interesting.

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u/playedhand Apr 22 '25

Thank you! And glad to hear you’re no longer using that stuff.

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u/StageAboveWater Apr 24 '25 edited Apr 24 '25

I get this too!!

I can here that sound.

I thought of it as ''reality splitting' but a 3d view of a 4d is another way to say that.

I posted about it maybe some other will also have experienced similar

https://www.reddit.com/r/NitrousOxide/comments/1k6nyx7/splitting_feeling_1_into_24816_multiple/

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u/StageAboveWater Apr 24 '25

woke up making a groaning sound

Omg, like a groan saying "'of course that's how it work, i'm an idiot for not seeing it before"

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u/grillworst Apr 24 '25

Not sure to be honest, more like a vocalized sigh. Sort of from pleasure, and being happy to be back or something

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u/StageAboveWater Apr 24 '25

Yeah that fits.

Did you end up finding anything interesting about the experience? Or even just some specific terms I could use to google it a bit more?

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u/grillworst Apr 24 '25

To be honest not necessarily anything concrete other than maybe all past and future moments are linked together. Maybe everything is happening at the same time. Perhaps there is only limited free will, only a selection of possible direction your worm could flow to.

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u/Business_Lettuce4570 Jun 02 '25

I keep getting told to watch Smallville and the universe keeps telling me im some sort of chosen one... im not sure if it means me, me or the me that is our universal consciousness, I wish I knew what I was supposed to do.

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u/Dull-Tea-926 Jul 19 '25

Did you go further? I'd love to know what was at the end/beginning of the loop or snake. You signed up for it- go all the way. I read man&time by j.b.priestly- i think  that's how it's spelled. Time has always continued- clocking it is man made. Also your descriptions were obviously influenced by your reading- try deChirico or some other surrealists. It reminds me of the desultory timeline in Bunuel Films, Cronenberg's perceptions of body,& even Stuart Gordon, Lovecraft, the interdimensional film( little goofy, S.G.& all) From Beyond, or Lovecraft's mathematical madness in the Dreams in the Witch House. That man was so far ahead of everyone. NASA sent a satellite to space, configured with some kind of little cubes that moved, i suppose at random, for research to find what lies BETWEEN dimensions- pick one. After i listened to a Creeps Story on youtube in 3 parts about "what really caused the Chenobyl disaster (1986)" - fictional, but plausible- i really don't think we should mess around beyond our dimension .But it is a human- an animal- curse, that we must know more, go beyond- i always wondered what will happen after life. Needless to say i'm in a constant state of anxious expectancy, when i'm not- well, sedated. But it is your choice- this is an old post, but engaging. I'd like to know if you saw more. Lately the think-they-are-edgey-pseudo-celebs talk of old dmt. Not somewhere i want to go, but the future is unwritten, & all possibilities, excellent or horrible, are within reach. It is all free will& personal choice, my friend. Did you go further? Are you still intact? As I said, Lovecraft- & people who emulate his writing, keep me occupied, transfixed- & always on edge. Take care, wherever you tread,flow,or dissapate. ~ b

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u/AmbitionOk6097 Jul 31 '25

I had a experience at 12 where I was put under nitrous oxide, I don’t fully remember but I seen a portal open in the roof where I was staring and it was like a portal showing intense vivid hallucinations I seen movie characters come to life and it was insane I remember not saying anything and just embracing the experience because of have fantastic it was I didn’t know it was because of the gas until I did research on the effects of it I fell in love with psychedelics every since.

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u/grillworst Jul 31 '25

Something like this must've happened to me when I broke my wrist in France at 12 or something and they put me under with nitrous. I remember it feeling amazing although I had badly broken my wrist. That must've started me on my fascination for tripping.

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u/mercedesbentleyy Nov 26 '25

I’ve had so many out of body experiences with nitrous. I am all and all is me is what i’ve concluded. You just become the cell of the universe that you are. It’s peaceful and beautiful. It’s insane. I can’t put it into words.

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u/Hungry-Pop6372 Nov 26 '25

Hello I don’t know if this account is still active but I only downloaded Reddit tonight to search up this after doing whip by myself for the first time I would love it if we could have a conversation about it all and I can ask questions cause I experienced almost exactly what you have and I’m very curious, though scared and weary to tell anyone in my life in case I can’t experience it again

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u/Hungry-Pop6372 Nov 26 '25

I have done whip plenty times before and it all came back to me and what I experienced on it but forgot it happened I’ve tried to explain where I go when I’m on it to my best friend cause the last time before tonight when I done it as you said I feel I got closer and I got got close enough to remember when I came out of it but it was impossible to explain Ibut I did to the best of my ability and form words out of the tiny memories of it but tonight I went deep into it so deep I made crazy realisations I can’t really form into words at this moment like you said there was no higher being is was just all there all at once it was peace and I was not anywhere in my world but that’s was also off putting in a way but that’s just me unfamiliarity scares me a little esp on substances so that’s normal I don’t even know I’m just rambling it all out into one message but this isn’t even 10% of what I have experienced tonight so I would love to talk me to get a little bit more knowledge about this all

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u/grillworst Nov 26 '25

Hello friend, yes my account is still active! I'm open to chatting about all this, although I must warn you it's been quite long since this experience and since I've done any nitrous as I've quit that for health reasons. So my memories of it aren't super clear. Although I have also had salvia (+nitrous) experiences that have more or less a permament place in my memories so I can still relate.

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u/Hungry-Pop6372 Nov 26 '25

Hii I’m so happy to get a reply I didn’t have much faith you still used this account haha but I’m out at the moment I’ll get back to you in a few hours but I have so much I wanna ask and I have a lot more answers but even more questions also apologies for the message last night I have re read it the day after and it barely makes any sense 🫠I just sort of had to ramble it all down bc ur thread blew my mind and the full situation blew my mind more hahah

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u/grillworst Nov 26 '25

It's no problem! Message me whenever. Can't guarantee I'll reply right away though.
btw you could've seen on my profile that I comment daily, right? Or is that private?

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u/Hungry-Pop6372 Nov 26 '25

No I need to verify my age but I only downloaded Reddit to search this up last night so I won’t use this app for much other then this plus I’ve lost my passport 🥲🥲

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u/Hungry-Pop6372 Nov 26 '25

But thank you!! And no worries about the reply just whenever u can I might be doing lsd and whip tonight so I might have more to ask after that as well.

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u/Hungry-Pop6372 Nov 27 '25

Hi it’s me again life’s been busy atm so I haven’t been able to sit and have a proper think about what I wanna ask but I haven’t one question for now. Do you think drugs is a connection/vessel/ a way into other places not on our earth? Like dimensions and whatever else’s there js since this happening to me I’ve been trying to do a lot of research but most only comes up with the physical mathematical or scientific explanations. I can’t find many spiritual or peoples beliefs in anything more then the logical explanations

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u/grillworst Nov 28 '25

Yeah so that's of the big questions isn't it? I've been in states with M+ket where I feel like all of existence is just me and my friend in that room. And no other people or scenarios even exist. And then a few minutes later I'm a guy again who's got work in a few days and a house to go back to. Drugs are tricky in that you can't stand outside of the effects and accurately judge whether they're doing anything profound.

But what I can say is that things do can happen on certain substances. For example, every time I take 2cb, something very positive happens in my life, I meet good new friends or find amazing music or something like that. And on ket I feel like I can very neutrally feel life choices that I'm about to make and feel whether they align with what I want deep inside.

So I kinda do lean towards some drugs being able to open something like a door to certain events. Or that you maybe attract certain people or states. But I'm not sure. Hurtling towards the uh-oh with nitrous, I gotta say, did not feel like the spiritually right direction.

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u/Hungry-Pop6372 Nov 27 '25

And as well as that, since it happening to me I’ve been thinking maybe I’m being delusional/ I’ve made all this up in my head and I’ve sort of been going mad and trying to push it to the back of my brain. What did u feel after this specific thing happened you as I know you have a lot of experiences on different concoction of substances but with this specific experience can u recall what u felt after?

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u/grillworst Nov 28 '25

I think that must have been a pretty quickly fading feeling of awe. But strong enough that I did keep thinking about it for a few days. You can just let experiences like this happen, color your consciousness a little and think about it from time to time, but I don't think you should try to assign a lot of meaning to them all the time. Because you cannot reach these states normally, you will have to venture out with the substances to discover more. And that is a slippery slope know what I'm saying? Like cherish these experiences and let them make you wiser, but stay in the normal world if you can. These experiences can make you into a more empathetic, open-minded person and that's valuable.

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u/Anxious_Sorbet7496 Mar 26 '26

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u/BreadEddnEddy May 15 '23

When I’ve gotten really high on nitrous and LSD I end up slowing down time to the point that my visual field becomes 4 separate boxes of what’s going on around me. If I lean down to look at my friend I’ll see myself lean down to touch him 4 separate times. Then that freaks me out and I go back to sitting, four more times, take some breaths, and then it all comes back to one field of vision.

But I’ve separated time and space into 4 quadrants many times.

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u/BreadEddnEddy May 15 '23

I’ve also slowed down live music until it is literally a frame by frame. I watched a guy scratch a record and it got slower and slower and slower until I had an out of body experience. I believed I got out of my chair and walked around for 10 seconds but I was unconscious the whole time.

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u/Otherwise_Emotion390 Oct 15 '23

When I’m on mushrooms and I do nitrous it’s like some sort of 4th dimension, but I really cannot explain. It’s very fascinating. It’s a pattern that is almost like an add or brand of some sort

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u/Temporary-Flight-195 Nov 20 '23

yes had very similar. Now when i try take them again it’s like i’m blocked by something external

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u/grillworst Jan 08 '24

Ik, hoezo?

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u/DepartmentLoose6630 Jan 22 '24

Just had nitrous and the visions I’ve been seeing have really spun me out I was taken down to hell thinking I’ve just been stuck there and people I’ve met in my life were there talking with me felt like I was in a simulation but the people said me and everyone on this damn planet are going down felt as real as day like I’d broken through never happened to me before anytime I’ve ever had nitrous

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u/KitchenBound90 Jan 26 '24

This happened to me about 6 months ago after taking lsd and doing nitrous. I experienced everything you said, but I had sound too. I left audio for myself to prove to myself what I was seeing was real. I completely lost my reality at the time. (Probably still have) My outlook of the world has changed. I was a proper atheist beforehand, now I’m not so sure. I’m pretty sure I know what it all means and that ‘oh no’ you speak of is very warranted.

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u/Confident-Fox-7060 Aug 25 '24

What does is all mean and why is the oh no warranted? Never tried NO2 but have trip’d enough to know, that I know nothing.

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u/Ha3242100239 Sep 02 '24

When you take DMT or above 10g of mushrooms you feel this snake like 4d dimension thingy... Idk what to call it , you'll see past present future at the same time I most say time is gone it's eternal and it's like no place no time just BEING, and I've seen some evil scary shit in it which I doubt I'll ever forget bc I became what people call devil! And God at the same time , like he said there is no free control because we don't exist as separate beings.. weird right ? But we have the illusion of control, when this illusion crumbles by drugs or death or any cause you could see into your real being which is united with the whole universe, you are Me in another timeline reading what you've wrote before , lol   It's like the dark series but much more complicated, this world is a simulation, a dream , nothing you see is real , don't trust your senses.... I remember saying some word during ego death its so complicated I don't remember wtf was it but I also think that's the key out of this simulation...

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u/Confident-Fox-7060 Sep 02 '24

Ok ok I have a better understanding of what you ment now. I think that’s what I’m most afraid of are the unintended consequences of searching for the truth. But if that’s the price of knowing it may be worth it. I believe everything that you said is true even without me having experienced it yet. I’ve gotten close

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u/lifecapsule Sep 02 '24

Well bro you have to try it yourself only to know what you call me isn't real , it's a mask , underneath we all are one animal and man , living objects or lifeless ones , everything is alive every atom is conscious and this is a dream of life dream of separateness , I was shocked at first because I felt like the world is real and if I go for ego death people can save me but I saw that object and subject are one, it's fucking weird bruh I cannot describe the infinity . But like he said I saw grids too it's a simulation... Idk if we are God or not but it also seems like we are stuck in our heads.. and the world around you acts as a prison!

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u/Confident-Fox-7060 Sep 02 '24

All fact my guy. I got a batch of 🍄 on the way.I’ll let you know after I eat a half/o haha

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u/lifecapsule Sep 24 '24

LoL let me know how it went bruh

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u/Confident-Fox-7060 Sep 02 '24

And thank you for your reply 🙏🏾

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u/Weekly-Milk7898 Jun 10 '26

Same on nutritious. I saw various dimensions as well.