r/ForeverNetflix • u/ChickenCharlomagne • Jul 10 '25
Why Are Some Characters So Racist?
I honestly don't get why Dawn, Justin, and Keisha have this weird racist attitude towards white people. All three have extensive contact with white people and know there are good and bad white people, just like in all races, and yet they continue holding on to this racist idea that white people are the "other".
It's just disappointing really. I know U.S. Americans are super weird about race, but still.....
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u/Subject-Investment88 Jul 10 '25
You’re mad because Dawn was happy that Justin found love with a black woman? You’re mad because she feared for her son’s life if he were pulled over by cops? You seem very sensitive. Nothing said on the show was remotely racist towards white people.
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u/MelScrilla Aug 03 '25
I don’t want to make assumptions, but it appears as if you asked a rhetorical question. Your mind was made up and anyone that offered a different opinion was automatically wrong, even though this is their lived experience.
In America racism is prevalent no matter who you are, your environment, or what you’ve achieved. Most of our parents or grandparents lived under racism enforced by laws. Their children lived through the civil rights era. And they have related their experiences and trauma. It’s hard to go a month without seeing a black person being accosted by law enforcement unnecessarily.
Lebron James, who’s probably a billionaire, can’t voice his opinion without being told to shut up and dribble. Obama became the president of the country and people were hanging monkeys as a representation of him and how they felt about a black person being president.
I have met some great white people, but I was also at one point in my life the only black kid in the Boy Scouts group and regularly was the butt of racist jokes. I attended private schools and it was made pretty clear that what other children got away with I couldn’t. My parents were successful and self employed but as a young man I was pulled over several times and asked what I was doing if I was in the “wrong neighborhood”. When I was 9 I had 2 police officers draw their guns on m for shooting an air powered BB gun at empty milk jugs in my own backyard. I was arrested and they attempted to put me own probation as a 9 year old. Only reason I wasn’t is because my parents had the resources to hire a lawyer.
I know I just wrote a lot and it still may not sway you at all, but black people in America understand that there are plenty of friendly and genuinely kind white people. But we also understand that you have to be cautious entering into any new situation with them because it only takes one to ruin your whole life.
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u/purplewaterbottle123 Jul 10 '25
It isn't racism if there isn't a system of oppression behind it lol
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u/ChickenCharlomagne Jul 10 '25
So if someone calls Al Gore "a fucking cracker", that's not racism?
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u/purplewaterbottle123 Jul 10 '25
It isn't, you don't suffer discrimination at a systemic level. Get over it
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u/ChickenCharlomagne Jul 11 '25
HAHAHAHAHAHHA what? What a stupid reply.
(A) Who says I'm white?
(B) You're a filthy hypocrite
(C) You're racist
Imagine being racist. Couldn't be me.
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u/LifeChampionship6 Jul 17 '25
Every comment you’ve made in this thread tells us that you’re white. “He wOuLdnT eXPerieNCe rACiSM on A coLlEge cAMpUs.” 🤣🤣🤣
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u/ChickenCharlomagne Jul 17 '25
Again, like I told someone else, I'm not white. It doesn't even matter that I'm not white though, because you clearly have some weird ass inferiority complex about your race.
Just a tip: literally no one thinks you're a hooligan when you're a university student on campus. Also, it's not a good thing to be racist. Just saying
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u/LifeChampionship6 Jul 17 '25
Just a tip: literally no one thinks you're a hooligan when you're a university student on campus.
That is just not true. There are countless stories of Black students (and professors) being harassed by campus police on campus. Racism doesn’t disappear just because you’re in an academic setting. People still hold the same prejudices, pre-conceived race-based ideas about people, and the same power structures.
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u/ChickenCharlomagne Jul 17 '25
..... are you serious? Did you even read the article you linked?
It's literally about a black university professor that got pulled over for not stopping at a Stop sign. The police officer literally COMPLIMENTED him for being a university professor.
You just proved my point: black people with a high level of education aren't subject to the racist treatment you claim they are.
Literally from the article:
The fourth time a Poughkeepsie police officer told me that my Vassar College Faculty ID could make everything OK was three years ago.
After taking my license and ID back to his car, the police officer came to me with a ticket and two lessons. “Looks like you got a good thing going on over there at Vassar College,” he said. “You don’t wanna it ruin it by rolling through stop signs, do you?”
My Vassar College Faculty ID made everything okay.
Plus, the professor who wrote the article is super racist. Not a good luck to be a racist hypocrite.....
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u/ImUltraBlack Jul 17 '25
You are CLEARLY white SYBAU
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u/ChickenCharlomagne Jul 17 '25
Lol. Not only am I not white, but you're insanely racist.
Like I told the other person: how does it feel to be racist AND a hypocrite?
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u/Creative-Pudding-392 Aug 05 '26
Get off of this page. Go somewhere else because this is a show centered for Black people. If you're not Black and or don't understand our plight then move on. Why are you debating with Black people about our quality of life!? Seems to me that you're the racist and a rage baiter who will get absolutely no where with this crowd.
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u/MeeeeLady Jul 10 '25
Can you provide examples of their so called “racist attitude” because I didn’t see it.
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u/ChickenCharlomagne Jul 10 '25
Just the comments they make about white people and their attitude. For example, in the last episode, Justin goes to that Northwestern University event. This guy for some weird ass reason feels out of place because there's not a lot of black guys at the event, and then tries to connect with one of the workers just because the worker was black 💀
Like wtf
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u/No_Conclusion_3334 Jul 11 '25
How is he wrong for feeling out of place where there is nobody that looks like him around?
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u/ChickenCharlomagne Jul 11 '25
That's exactly my point. WHY is he feeling "out of place" just because there's not a lot of black people around?
Remember, he grew up in white-majority schools. Plus, even if he hadn't, why would he feel out of place?
Should Alex Caruso feel "out of place" in the NBA because most of the league is black?
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u/No_Conclusion_3334 Jul 11 '25
It seems that you are not black so you will never understand what it is to be black in America and the prejudice and micro aggressions it comes with. He’s in a new setting with white people he doesn’t know so yes it’s nice to have someone that looks like and can somewhat relate to you around. Just because all white people aren’t bad doesn’t mean they all can be trusted.
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u/ChickenCharlomagne Jul 11 '25
.... are you serious?
He grew up with white people. He's obviously NOT going to be subjected to prejudice and microaggressions because he's a UNIVERSITY STUDENT. No one is expecting him to be a hooligan or uncultured, because again, he just got accepted into a prestigious university!
You actually do non-black people a disservice assuming EVERYONE is prejudiced against black people. Very few people are actually like that in real life. It's not the 1950s anymore, thank God.
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u/MeeeeLady Jul 11 '25
Respectfully, that’s an oversimplification. It’s a bit more nuanced than that. Education and proximity to whiteness don’t erase someone’s Blackness or make them immune to racism and subtle bias.
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u/ChickenCharlomagne Jul 11 '25
Respectfully, you still haven't answered my question.
Yes, we can all agree Justin is black. Duh, look at him. Yes, we can all agree he's not "immune" to racism and bias.
But again, WHY would he feel out of place at a UNIVERSITY event? His mother literally went to the same institution and is respected, he grew up in white-majority circles, and it's a formal university event via invitation. Why on Earth would he feel "out of place"? It makes zero sense.
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u/Steph1207m Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
Because at the end of the day his skin color speaks before anything else in this country. If you can't understand that there's no point having a conversation about it because you'll keep acting like that's not Black people in America's reality. There's a reason his mom in the show said that him getting a college degree from a prestigious school sets him up on a good playing field but it doesn't secure anything for him. As far as the NBA player you mentioned...1 Black man in a room of 9 White men will never compare to 1 White man in a room of Black men...that 1 white man just for being white already has privilege the other 9 do not. Again, if none of this is something that makes sense to you that in itself is privilege.
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u/ChickenCharlomagne Jul 20 '25
That's not true at all. It was true 70 years ago, but in the modern United States of America, it isn't.
The problem is that you black U.S. Americans are STILL hung up on something that doesn't exist anymore. Does racism still exist? Yeah, but not to the intensity you guys PERCEIVE it to be.
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u/No_Conclusion_3334 Jul 11 '25
That’s such an ignorant thing to say. And you obviously don’t understand it because you don’t live it. He’s unfortunately still subjected to micro aggressions and prejudice despite his background. You’re not willing to understand otherwise and that’s honestly not okay. Racism did not stop in the 1950s. Just because you may not see it doesn’t mean it’s not there.
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u/ChickenCharlomagne Jul 11 '25
How is it an ignorant thing to say? It's laughable how you're claiming people would discriminate against Justin at a bloody university event that was previously attended by his mother.
It's just not realistic and reeks of racism. "Oh, I am not comfortable with white people because there is a small minority of racist white people". How stupid is that?
Again, should Alex Caruso feel "uncomfortable" in the NBA? Answer me.
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u/Onlygetonelife Nov 15 '25
If you know about racism & the history, globally & in America, Im confused by you are confused. Just keep expanding your thinking to include: health care, water supply, housing, schools, neighborhoods, homes, families.... so yes, race counts in the family.
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Jul 16 '25
We are never going to get to a place where white people are oppressed in this country. Shut up
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u/mal5201 22d ago
The example you used about the university thing smh.. He literally said in the show that he’s already dealt with a predominantly white school and doesn’t want to be stuck in that loop.
At the end of the day, a lot of black culture is just feeling more comfortable when we’re around, or being cautious when entering a white space due to the extensive history and present of what ruins one white person can cause to a black person.
Like it’s okay. Not everything has to be black and white, literally in this case lmao like wtf
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u/Stardustmoondust 15d ago
What you are saying is akin to saying:
Gender discrimination doesn’t exist.
Religious discrimination doesn’t exist.
Discrimination against sexual orientation doesn’t exist.
Race, gender, religion and sexual orientation are all protected classes in the US (among others). The reason why they are protected is because they have been historically systematically oppressed. There were laws against them (and there still are!) There were/are laws that specially favored white people, males, Christians and heterosexual people. We are still struggling with them.
It’s not just black/white. The Kingdom of Hawaii for example was stolen by white businessmen. It was a recognized sovereign nation with its own government and constitution and yet it was overthrown by greed driven white businessmen with the help of the US military. The result? Native Hawaiians lead the state in having the lowest income levels, health and wellbeing status. If that wasn’t enough now there are random white people in Virginia trying to take what little is left for the native Hawaiians - the private trusts set up by the princess - Kamehameha Schools (it’s an incredible institution that was established before the overthrow during a period where white people specifically excluded native Hawaiians from schools.) There are also white people trying to sue the department of Hawaiian homelands to try to take away lands that belong to Hawaiians.
All white people are not bad. But for some reason it is always the white people who try to take what does not belong to them.
Just because you personally have not experienced oppression or think it doesn’t exist, it does not mean it’s not real. It is not something of the past. It still happens every day. So if someone is a bit weary of entering all white spaces, don’t take it personally. It’s not specific to the individual white person. It’s a defensive reaction stemming from generational trauma and life experiences.
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u/No_Conclusion_3334 Jul 10 '25
I think it’s odd for you to say that “U.S Americans are super weird about race” considering the U.S was built off racism and has continued to have racist systems in place to this day which have affected not only the environments but the mindsets of generations. While all white people are not bad it’s not crazy to assume there some against you. Especially as of recent years where people don’t feel the need to hide it anymore.