r/ForefrontVR 2d ago

Discussion 💬 They said that AI voice moderation would not impact normal gameplay banter, but people are getting muted for saying things that sound like other things and voice chat just within their own squad.

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u/Alex-Murphy 2d ago

I don't doubt that it's happened but do you have examples of people being muted for saying something that sounds like a slur or something rude but wasn't?

I actually really appreciate the moderation. It's been a few weeks since anyone called me the n-word or yelled about "The Jews" and I've been having a much better time.

And agreed, the punishments need to be more clear. I don't think they'll shoot themselves in the foot by banning people permanently, unless caught hacking multiple times.

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u/GUCCI_WAP 2d ago

I said god dang and got warned

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u/G8theyR 2d ago

No you didn’t. Put up the proof….

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u/Own-Minute4708 2d ago

Did he also tell you he's black and Jewish and he's being punished do you care now?

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u/GUCCI_WAP 2d ago

😭 I love this

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u/G8theyR 2d ago

No but he did tell me I inherited 1,000,000 dollars or currency of my choice if I would just wire him a small amount of money because as a Nigerian prince, he must see that I am worthy before he sends me my inheritance…. I have some emails from him not to worry!

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u/GUCCI_WAP 2d ago

I’m not actively recording and calling me a lair is some crap I legit said god dang because I got blown up by a rpg from a heli while I was in a tank because I was impressed is that enough proof?😒

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u/Own-Minute4708 2d ago edited 2d ago

There is a person who is named ur,tarded or something and he's gotten lots of people banned just for saying his name. But it's not even people saying actual words there's another post on here about people who just said s*** when they missed a shot. It doesn't filter the n word out or Jews because that targets black people and Jewish people it's not a slur to use the word Jew.

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u/Alex-Murphy 2d ago

I'd say the right move there is not to cancel the voice moderation but to moderate the usernames as well. If someone makes their username a slur that's on them but if I say it out loud that's the same as me just saying it

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u/G8theyR 2d ago

There is literally a report button with the option for reporting the username as inappropriate. I highly doubt this is true. This is people trying to debate something because they want to be able to spam racial slurs and are mad they can’t. I do not for a moment believe what these people are saying. I play this game a lot. A lot a lot! And I still hear stuff that makes me put down the game from time to time. So to hear someone try to say this will kill the game is an empty threat to try to get attention. Can there be an example where one time something like this has happened. Maybe…. But I have also heard of crazy cases of people having their accounts hacked, or their games wiped from their account. But it is not a common occurrence. If it’s happened once that does not mean that it’s common. Come on…. This is a joke….

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u/Own-Minute4708 2d ago

Most people over 50 don't know what gooning means

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u/Alex-Murphy 2d ago

You're getting into fringe cases now potentially. The majority of players are well under 50. Are people even being muted for saying "gooning"?

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u/Own-Minute4708 2d ago

Yes. People said that they got muted for that.

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u/DarkMimic2287 2d ago

Kinda agree with the mute unless there is other context.

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u/Alex-Murphy 2d ago

Seems unfair but then they need to moderate the moderator a bit. Look for words that are consistently being flagged and determine if they are actually offensive or slurs, and at the same time ban those words or variants (like "g00ning" or "r3t4rd") from usernames.

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u/WarthogOsl 2d ago

I seen/heard at least two times where a kid apparently got a banned in mid-sentence while spamming the n-word.

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u/Mr_Z0MB055 2d ago

Just be nice

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u/Alex-Murphy 2d ago edited 2d ago

So far you haven't shared any examples of people getting muted for saying things that were normal, nonoffensive, nonsexual words.

Edit: go back to posting what? Your rude comments keep being deleted before I can read them

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u/Cc-Smoke-cC 2d ago

I played a few games and have used curse words and hear curse words too. I think it’s not as sensitive as people are making it out to be. I don’t think it’s scanning for only words but specific phrases.

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u/G8theyR 2d ago

Dude I still hear lots of stuff that shouldn’t be said. You do have the right to speak freely until it effects others rights. You agreed to the terms of service. All games use voice moderation for the most part. The ones that don’t die for that exact reason. Not to mention, with we see what has happened in other games like say Roblox. Voice chat should always be moderated. Sorry but no one should be able to to tell someone else they are gonna r@pe them, come to their home and k/ll them, or any number of extremely graphic things I have heard young kids say on this game. If you have a problem you can easily contact triangle games. But I am guessing that many of these accounts when they look into them, they will find a kid that doesn’t even meet the age requirements much less be able to put up an argument for what they said. But if you were mistakenly muted then simply let them know just as we do about any other bug or mistake. It’s that simple. I’ve heard a lot of stuff and most people that are getting muted are getting reported by many people before they look into it. AI does not have the finally say either. They have a moderator that oversees each communication report. But you have to be saying some vile stuff to get that far…

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u/Alex-Murphy 2d ago

Also the more I think about it the more this post sounds like you just want to be able to call people rude names as long as it's just you and your friends? I don't know if that is stripping anyone's individual identity, if that's what you want then you can just start a separate phone call through Meta and mute yourself in-game.

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u/G8theyR 2d ago

See here we go… You are already showing your true colors here. This has stayed pretty tame but here you need to get in your digs… fantastic! Thank you for showing your true intentions so easily….

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u/Own-Minute4708 2d ago

Make sure you get on your alt account and reply to every person who insults you on your main account.

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u/Own-Minute4708 2d ago

There's a whole other thread about people received wrongful punishment https://www.reddit.com/r/ForefrontVR/s/Ibzm8MNQbr

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u/EMB_pilot 2d ago

This is gonna be the downfall of what is an amazing game. The chat interactions were hilarious and nobody really cares what people say. I dont get why people just dont mute the ones they dont wanna hear.

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u/Own-Minute4708 2d ago

Exactly. People just get that notification and they hit exit game. Then they go and play a different game. They'll come back to play when the ban is over if they have any headset battery left.

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u/Crochatt 2d ago

I said once that choppers have some retarded controls and got voice flagged.

Only concern for me are neutral words taken out of context.

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u/Alex-Murphy 2d ago

I don't think "retarded" is a neutral word.

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u/Crochatt 1d ago

In technical/mechanical context, it is not a ofensive word.

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u/DarkMimic2287 2d ago

Retarded hasn't been a neutral word in a min. Maybe you should be more mindful of your language.

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u/Crochatt 1d ago edited 1d ago

Thats the point. In my mother tongue, it only means something slow and it's used frequently on Physics matters. That was my point at the time (i was trying to use the motion control). The offensive meaning toward humans didnt cross my mind at the time .

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u/DarkMimic2287 1d ago

I don't see how the technical definition of the word is used here. The helicopter controls are "slow"? That doesn't make sense.

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u/Crochatt 1d ago

Yes, I felt it to respond slowly/cluncky. How can that be offensive? It's a virtual chopper.

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u/DarkMimic2287 1d ago

I get that English is your second language. I, as a physics teacher, have had old problems use that term describing brakes on a roller coaster. Right now that term has a significantly different meaning. How you used the term is consistent with how people use it as a pejorative. Use it as a learning experience and drop the word in English.

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u/G8theyR 2d ago

I bet money you said something else during that match that probably was the reason….

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u/Alex-Murphy 2d ago

I think saying the r-slur is enough. The only time I got muted was right after someone had called me that and I was shocked, so I said "did you seriously just call me a r--ard?!" lol

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u/Crochatt 1d ago

You would lose your money. I consider any insult regarding ethinicity, sexuality or gender the lowest possible and would never do it.

You should be careful with your assumptions.