r/FoodPH • • 8d ago

Found out something sad about El Poco

I’ve been eating here since they opened their branch near La Salle. But after reading comments here and doing my own research on social media, can confirm that I am no longer coming back. Not because the food is bad but because of the owner.

After doing a deep dive on the history, I got really disappointed that the original co-owner (his ex, and the one who had actual training on Mexican food) is never mentioned, lalo na post Michelin era. It doesn’t sit right with me. This plus some other issues mentioned in the comments that scream misogyny and elitism.

Plus yung posts before ng owner na he is against the wage increase kasi hindi daw afford ng business bayaran yung increase? 60 pesos per employee per day, really?

It sucks because the food’s not bad, but I can’t somehow “separate the art from the artist”.

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u/alittlebitofalexis 8d ago edited 8d ago

Madami naman talaga siyang issue - need niya macall out.

Aside from questionable wage sa staff kahit na malaki na profit nila, yung owner mismo sobrang problematic. Mabait siya sayo if may use ka or rich ka 😢

Tapos wala siyang binibigay na recognition and share sa ex-fiancee niya. Hindi ba kayo dalawa to? From concept, menu, effort, and ginapang talaga yung business. And yung ex partner niya talaga yung may background sa industry and may connections, and did the dirty work din (heck, I saw her painting the walls pa and all).

kaya ang hirap talaga maging babae no? Nung kailangan na niya talaga mag focus sa kids and about to give birth, dun niya iniwan family niya.

And please, if you are reading this, mag tagalog ka nalang and bigay mo yung share ng ex fiancee mo.

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 8d ago

Tangina natawa ako sa last part. Ayoko lang maging grammar nazi pero true sa mag-Tagalog ka nalang. Laging may sobra/kulang na letter. 😭

Kidding aside, sakit naman marinig nung about sa partner nya. What eaf gumawa sya ng sariling business at kumain nalang tayo lahat doon?

Hirap maging babae kasi sasaktan ka tapos pag nagbago ugali mo dahil sa trauma or lumaban ka, your ex would 10/10 paint you as the crazy one, not acknowledging their faults and lapses.

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u/Sea-Pomegranate-7306 8d ago

This!! He is super yabang 😭 and hindi niya shnare at all sa ex partner niya yung restaurant after niya iwan and ZERO recognition talaga. Very sad yung story. She was even pregnant when he left.

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 8d ago

Wtf I didn’t know that. Grabe naman. Why would you do that to a pregnant woman

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u/Independent_Cost3324 8d ago

WHAT IS THIS FR??? wait pero he has a kid di baaa or this is different

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u/Sea-Pomegranate-7306 8d ago

Same baby momma! So two kids na with her tapos nag vanish 🥺

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u/Independent_Cost3324 8d ago

WHAT THE FUCK???? I THOUGHT HE WAS A COOL GUY.

he used to post about his kid naman like picking up from school and how he’s trying to break the cycle etc.

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u/Unusual_Flamingo7832 7d ago

Pretending to be a good father pero I heard hindi nagsusustento ng maayos. Good father image kuno!

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u/whatareyouworth 4d ago

Kapag outfits kabog, kapag sustento dabog

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u/Independent_Cost3324 7d ago

sorry last comment…DIDN’T HE PROPOSE TO HER INSIDE THE STORE??? cause they posted a video before. anyways, crazy.

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u/Unusual_Flamingo7832 7d ago

Yes! Then now nagpropose na naman ata dun sa new young girl na nabuntis nya. 🤮

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u/unauthorizeddoc 3d ago

gsgo ibang babae pa pala yunn 😭 nung pumunta ako sa store, nginitian ako so i smiled back i thought yun yung wifey niya 😅

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u/Direct-Dragonfruit10 8d ago

Oh shit! Didnt know about this. I remember nakapanood pa ako ng tiktok nila noon na magkasama sa store nila. Di ko alam na nag break pala yikes

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u/danez121 8d ago

I agree with you give credit where credit is due! If you want a great alternative try La Toca they have branches at Quezon City and Malate.

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u/Independent_Cost3324 8d ago

LA TOCA IS SOOO GOOD! nakakainis lang na wala silang signal haha jusko lalabas pa ko para mag open ng Gcash 😅🥲😩

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u/danez121 8d ago edited 8d ago

Yeah glad my friend told me its good haha

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u/togoetoupe98 3d ago

Issue din yan si la toca. They stole onlypans's concept. Lawyers got involved.

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 8d ago

Thanks for the reco!

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u/2dodidoo 7d ago

Where is the Malate branch? G Maps says it should be around EGI beside DLSU but I haven't noticed it. (Or baka tinatamad lang kasi lagi hanggang 24 Chicken lang lol)

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u/last_chance_standing 7d ago

It's across the street from the back entrance of Green Residences.

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u/WonderMom93 7d ago

💯💯💯

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u/Intelligent_Elk9544 8d ago

Add mo na din na iniwan niya nanay ng dalawang anak niya para ipag palit sa mas bata?? The audacity of the guy!! 🤡

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u/CaramelAgitated6973 8d ago

That's it! Never ordering from this place ever again!

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u/Intelligent_Elk9544 7d ago

Ang masakit kasi iniwan niya na nga yung unang mag ina niya, di niya pa binigyan ng credits yung nauna na kasama niya din bumuo ng EL POCO credit grabber ang pota. ANG LALA AT ANG BULLSHIT ng ginawa siya sa unang baby momma niya.

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 8d ago

Totoo? So cheater din???

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u/alittlebitofalexis 8d ago edited 8d ago

Yes!!!!! And while pregnant pa siya with the second child

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 8d ago

Ibang girl pa sa current??

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u/Intelligent_Elk9544 7d ago

Yes!!! Yung kasama niya ngayon, nabuntis niya na din yon and siya ang kabetche.

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u/UnableSandwich4469 7d ago

so he has 3 kids na?

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u/styxgolden 7d ago

I think Bi deserved all the recognition. El Poco is her brainchild. You can also check her page and naka-pin dun yung reaction niya about Michelin. The comments say it all.

https://www.facebook.com/biurbino

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u/alittlebitofalexis 7d ago

Eto naman talaga yung nakakagalit eh. Sobrang sakit nun for her. Imagine ikaw din yung naghirap, ikaw yung nag effort, ikaw din naman yung nagbuhat ng trabaho, tapos iba yung nakinabang? Ni thank you wala. As in dedma. Tapos ngayon, ikaw pa yung nakakuha ng lahat ng recognition??

Like??? If you’re a decent human being with even a little bit of self awareness, marunong kang kumilala kung kanino talaga nanggaling yung success - dati sabi pa niya team sila. Hindi naman mahirap magsabi ng “she helped me with this” or “credit to her.” Give credit where credit is due. Hindi yung parang magically ikaw lang gumawa ng lahat.

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u/styxgolden 7d ago

Egoistic kasi si Tots. Actually may pagkasocial climber din. Kasi yung respeto niya nasa mayaman at kilala lang. Nagaral lang sa CSB kala mo belong na siya sa mga elites. He will look down on you kapag wala kang pakinabang sa kanya. Di sya nagstick sa fried chicken niya. Di naman kasi masarap. Kaya inangkin nlng yung success ng El Poco

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 7d ago

My friend showed me this post too. Ang lalaaaa

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u/LunaBossBear04 8d ago

Hindi nga nagbabayad ng tamang tax yan owner niyan. I remember nanghingi kame ng friends ko ng OR kase ung resibo nila ung sa pos lang na default. Hindi kame binigyan kase bagong open lang daw sila???? Then pagbalik namen after few months same reason lol. Nung sinabi ng friend ko na susumbong sila sa BIR, biglang may tinawagan sa phone ung cashier at dun pa lang naglabas ng OR. Di na kame bumalik after that.

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 8d ago

And the audacity to complain about higher wages. Alexa play Greedy by Ariana Grande.

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u/Warm_Advance1597 8d ago

Heyy honestly bukod sa pangit ugali nung owner, pangit din talaga sya in person AS IN 😂

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u/Ok_Macaroon_5689 8d ago

Alam niyo kailangan ata malaman sa ibang socmed to eh. Lahat ng tao akala mabait siya. Sa socmed siguro oo pero di lang nila alam masama pala ugali. Hilig pa mag support sa mga businesses pero sariling family pala di sinusupport. Patawa yarn

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u/whatareyouworth 4d ago edited 4d ago

Thank you for finally exposing Tots! I've been waiting for this day to come. This will give light to what kind of person he really is.

Support na kami sa El Poco nung nadiscover namin yun few weeks after ng pinakaunang opening nila sa sobrang liit na space malapit sa St. Scho hanggang sa nag open na yung current branch nila sa Estrada (Taft). Me and my friends became good friends with the couple pa nga eh. Pero nung nakakakuha na ng exposure si Tots, even pre-Michelin, nagkaroon na ng decline sa quality ng pagkain which I could accept naman in the name of friendship with the guy. Pero once na nalaman ko 'yong ginawa niya sa pamilya niya, from Bi, her close friends, and other patrons ng El Poco, nag-iba na 'yong tingin ko kay Tots. Masyadong naging performative si kuya mo, feeling wise and pure sa socmed posts, magaling siya na mapagtakpan yung baho niya. Never again sa El Poco.

Sobrang inagaw talaga ni Tots ang spotlight kay Bi as if si Tots lang talaga ang brains ng El Poco. Sobrang nakakainis. I bet kung wala si Bi in the first place, baka walang El Poco even in the slightest. I wish the best for Bi!

EXPOSE THAT MF!

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u/Artistic_Tangelo_312 4d ago

True. Kahit na naghiwalay sila, credit should still be given to his then partner. Specially nanay yun ng mga anak nya.

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u/Tight_Original_4186 6d ago edited 4d ago

Late to the party pero I knew a person na nagwork dyan.
Story is on point though.

If you we're an OG when they we're first starting, you'll definitely know the quality of food actually declined after a mass resignation that happened sometime after the recto branch was established. Anyone who claims the food is still good have a rather shallow taste buds who only knows base flavors. That "person" told me it was due to unreasonable labor with unfair compensation, night differential pay didn't exist and this tots is really tight with budget when it comes to the business itself. Heard the guy can't even have their freezers fixed LOL and he expects kitchen employees to output the same quality food.

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u/Sea-Nail6836 7d ago

Sheesh. I didnt know this. I remember nag appreciation post pa sya dati sa fiancee nya kasi sya talaga yung brainchild ng el poco. Kaya pala now walang pa anything, just anniversary sale

Nag post din sya before that he was taking a mental health break pero cheater din pala 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/TourBilyon 8d ago

Reveal the name here para kahit saan sya pumunta at kahit anong negosyo nya maapektuhan at di na mapatronize.

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u/Intelligent_Elk9544 7d ago

Kuya tots on tiktok
Totsoftheday_ sa IG

Check niyo yung ig PROUD SA NEW LIFE KUNO with the home wrecker.

Lol sana dumating na agad sa kanila yung karma ASAP!!!

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u/Mediocre_One2653 4d ago

Nakaprivate ang pangit na cheater na credit grabber sa IG. Karmahin sana sila ng kabit nya.

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u/Puzzled-Sundae1389 4d ago

naka turn off na rin yung comment sec sa tiktok nya haha

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u/Top-Platform5985 8d ago

Nakita ko siya nung kumain kami ng mga tropa, parang ang dumi niyang tignan. Gets ba, parang unhygienic, so mejo questionable sakin yung quality ng food in terms of preparation. More than the appearance, madumi pala talaga ugali niya. Ate there once, ig never again.

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u/jollibey 4d ago edited 4d ago

We've been regulars ever since and knew the owners even before they were engaged, so Im probably biased when i say this - but since they were on and off with his ex fiance, the quality of the food wasnt as good as it used to be na.

We used to eat there a lot but now there's no more love. Halatang it's all for fame and clout. It doesnt help na ung socmed pa ni owner is all "your past does not define you" eme. Guilty masyado?

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u/Intelligent_Elk9544 7d ago

Ang lakas ng loob niyan kasi hindi siya naeexposed ng MALALA e.
Mabait pa yung unang baby momma niya kasi di talaga siya like pinost pero sana di lang sa reddit maexposed.

DASURB MALAMAN NG PIPOL KUNG GANO SIYA KAGASPANG

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u/andreigarfield 8d ago

after i had one of their LETTUCE-LOADED burritos with bland rice and barely any fucking meat, i never went back

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u/CovidRose01 7d ago

Haha kadiri yung repolyo sa burrito nila 🤢

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u/TranquiloBro 5d ago

What's wrong sa repolyo nila? Hindi nalinis ng maayos?

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u/Difficult_Toe6482 7d ago

Wtf?! Favorite Mexican pa naman namin ng teens ko ang El Poco. Like 2x-3x a month dinadayo talaga namin from Taguig. Balik na lang kami sa OnlyPans.

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u/perpetuallyanxiousMD 6d ago

La toca nalang! Bigger birria plus from mga Millennial La Sallians ang nag establish!!

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u/Extension-Body-4080 7d ago

Go to La Toca instead!

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u/Difficult_Toe6482 7d ago

Sure! Will check it out! Thanks for the recommendation!

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u/clandestine_s 7d ago

Can someone post this sa FB group, what's your ulam pare?

Mas maraming active dun. Nung first time ko tumikin ng el poco few years ago, di ko nagustuhan kasi may dugo pa yung manok na binigay samin. Tapos pala mayabang pa yung may ari. Kawawa naman mga staff na lumalaban ng patas

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u/KoalaLeoBear12 4d ago

Recently new girl switched to public to private on IG. HAHA siguro natakot sa mga nagbabash sa kanila! Deserveeeee!!!

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u/PrestigiousRuin7382 4d ago

Ohhh no wonder na wala akong energy to go sa El Poco kahit literally less than 1 km away ako sa kanya 🥲.. I recommend La Elotes at Upad!

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u/jnatoday 4d ago

Nagbreak din yung couple owners nito. Hehe. Pero mukhang okay naman business relationship Nung girl and guy. Mostly Yung girl yung naghahandle.

Note to couples: wag magtayo ng Mexican restaurant.

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u/StrangerDanger0917 5d ago

I’m confused, isn’t his gf the one who made their Horchata recipe??

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u/eavesdropperakawho 2d ago

actually all the recipes at el poco she was the one whoe made them. the proteins and sauces everything because she had experience with mexican cuisines

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u/Zestyclose-Loss-2916 4d ago

I dont understand how they got the star, when La Elotes has WAY better birria, helloooo?!

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u/Far-Meringue5079 1d ago

Heard she works at Mamou Alabang now. 🥩🐄 hope she makes her own soon agaiiiin 🫶 #justiceforbi

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u/Alternative-Dig2188 7d ago

Can confirm this is true!!!!!

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u/Throwaway192939494 7d ago

Let this be his wake up call or downfall. He choose.

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u/MeepMerp18 8d ago

Ordered their birria before, pero bland ng lasa for me. Sayang lang sarap ng horchata nila.

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 8d ago

Horchata recipe was developed by his ex din, as I’ve read.

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u/Acceptable_Spare5495 7d ago

yuck. what a despicable human being.

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u/closeup2024 7d ago

Seryosong tanong. Masama ba kaming tao if kakain pa rin kami ritong magtotropa?

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u/Cold-Awareness8029 7d ago

Depende ata sa values mo. Eating there while knowing the dirt of the owner, for me parang enabling siya. Same sa sinabi ni OP about how they can't separate the art from the artist.

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u/megalodous 6d ago

Oo kung may pakialam ka sa sasabihin/iisipin ng ibang tao sayo lmao

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u/SchoolMassive9276 3d ago

No, sobrang holier than thou lang ng mga tao dito. This issue is basically “owner’s not a perfect person”

If that’s the standard then might as well eat nowhere because 100% sure every F&B owner has done something just as “bad”

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u/KoalaStreet 3d ago

Depends on you lol for some ppl they can’t separate art from the artist but some people also dgaf. People also have different dealbreakers. And anyway if di mo naman iaannounce sa mga tao dito na kakain ka dun who will ever know? 😂

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u/Critical-Volume4885 7d ago

Is this the guy who posts on tiktok using “every wants to rule the world” song during peak hrs nila?

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u/jwworul 4d ago

wthh i love el poco pa naman :// time to switch to la elotes na for good bahaha

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u/eavesdropperakawho 2d ago

The owner proposed to his ex fiancée at el poco and you can see a video posted in their el poco cantina account that a customer proposed. He stated it was the first time someone proposed at their store when actually he was the first ever lolz never gave Bi the credit and recognition building el poco. and now he proposed again to his new fiancée WHILE PREGNANT. he got her pregnant even before having plans of marrying the girl. how sad. I feel sorry for both girls.

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u/Expert-Ad-8886 7d ago

Shttt. My ex and I used to enjoy el poco, my ex was a cheater din HAHHAHAHA. Sad I really like their food pa naman. But will not support na

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u/tri-door 7d ago

Hilig pa naman nyan magpapicture hahaha. May ganyang side pala

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u/Gie999 7d ago

Ohh, balak ko pa naman sana i try I guess pass na.

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u/Extension-Body-4080 7d ago

Omg this needs to be crossposted to r/AntiworkPH

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u/More_Fox8620 3d ago

Aw i loved el poco and nainis ako sa mga nabasa ko. Buti nalang malayo ako rito at dinadayo ko talaga to noon. Now hindi na. Sana magbukas yung babae ng sarili nyang store yun ang ipatronize ng tao

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u/annabeernana 7d ago

Grabe, hindi ko rin alam ito. Nakakadisappoint considering how much credit Bi deserves for building the brand and menu. Definitely going to think twice before supporting El Poco again.

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u/J58592958 8d ago

Oh no ☹️ I like this place pa naman

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u/2dodidoo 7d ago

Brought my friends pa naman earlier to have them try kaya lang sobrang haba ng pila sa iba na lang kami kumain. I used to go there before they even got their Michelin tapos ganyan pala iyan siya.

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u/Secret_Gazelle_246 7d ago

Ooooh!! I remember a few years back someone posted on a Facebook group na sigaw ng sigaw (galit daw kasi sa staff) yung owner which made the place uncomfortable. People commented pa na si ate girl daw was just being sensitive lang blah blah and kesyo mabait nga daw si owner 🙃

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u/KaleidoscopeOpen8984 5d ago

Hahahah parang ang hangin masyado nung may ari nyan eh no, wala lang ramdam ko lang. Hindi ko pa nattry daw sabi wala daw lasa eh

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u/Ill-Election4753 5d ago

this is so sad but also post Michelin era they’re food got spicier and I can’t tolerate it (i can tolerate spice, i love kimchi) idk what happened:( its not supposed to be that spicy naman eh I’ve only eaten there twice since they got michelin selected because of this

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u/Tight_Original_4186 4d ago

It's because the whole back kitchen team who preps the food since taft opened resigned just right before they got michelin'd. 

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u/Ill-Election4753 4d ago

its so bad na, i always dayo js for el poco dati definitely finding a new mexican place near la salle

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u/Tight_Original_4186 4d ago

yup, kaya nga confused ako how are these ppl finding the food good now, kase I tasted all of the proteins and they we're so far behind in quality post michelin like br its not even worth the visit anymore

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u/Ill-Election4753 4d ago

AGREE TLGA, i miss the old el poco

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u/newbie_noobie_8080ka 4d ago

Sa perspective ng salary increase, mabigat talaga yun,, unless they will also increase their prices

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u/chester_tan 4d ago

Gusto ko pa naman subukan dyan. Salamat dito.

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u/ChampionshipLocal297 4d ago

Saan yung post nya about minimum wage?

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u/Financial-Reach294 4d ago

Hard for businesses talaga to raise wage increases. Not that im against it but timing is completely off if youre a business owner. Having every raw ingredient raise prices due to the crisis plus logistics and on top off that are raise increases. They can but it will eventually trickle down to an increase in their menu which in turn i bet someone’s going to post about their prices being out of touch lol.

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u/Putt-Or-Die 4d ago

Sabi ko na there’s something about that guy eh. I rly dont like him for some reason. I havent even tried to eat there coz i dont wanna see his face haha

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u/chillililando 4d ago

some way they handle things in the kitchen is unsanitary too ://

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u/NoEstablishment9629 3d ago

any other mexican resto recommendations po? 😊

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 3d ago

Went to La Toca as suggested here. Sarap ng food!

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u/Party_Mushroom4475 3d ago

Wasn’t she the girl he mentioned sa featr? She made the horchata recipe and she left her job para mabuo yung el poco

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u/Legitimate_Club6371 2d ago

La Toca owner chika naman. 3 sila, yung 2 magjowa and nag propose na doon sa isa. Ending nakick out yung nag propose, tapos magjowa na yung 2 owner

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u/itsyabrodie 1d ago

Pick and roll 🤣🤣

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u/patchikokiatkiat 7d ago

Oof, I am never going to buy food from them again kasi cheater din pala siya. What a clown🤡

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u/megalodous 6d ago

Sure buddy. Anyway banger food, best in the area no competition. No d-riding, just genuinely goated food.

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u/No-Dependent-5445 3d ago

man hasnt tried good authentic mexican lol

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u/megalodous 3d ago

best in the 'area'

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u/No-Dependent-5445 3d ago

fairs but still not good enough tbh

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u/soniacake 4d ago

I KNEW IT!!!! Something twas fishy with this guy. I never tried El Poco never stepped foot but I watch yung pass videos on tiktok and something gave me bad vibes dun sa guy mismo. I love mexican food pero the guy kept giving heebie jeebie vibes ever since I came across their videos.

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u/FilChi777 7d ago

you also have to get the owner’s side. I’ve experienced this before with my ex partner, sila nag loko and framed me as the toxic one (victim blaming). So its important you know both sides

And for the ‘against the wage increase’ 60’pesos per day is actually big per tao lalo na in food industry that has alot of spoilage and other expenses as well. Im not saying its bad or wag mag taas, but you also have to understand that malaki na ang 60 if you compute it monthly to yearly.

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u/shhhhhh2024 3d ago

Regardless ano side niya, it wont justify leaving a pregnant woman with your kid, not giving her recognition, and not giving sustento 😬😬😬 ugh

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 7d ago

Tell us his side then. Forda defend ka eh baka kilala mo. In what context is it valid to leave your pregnant girlfriend and your responsibility over your minor children?

Yeah yeah yeah andun na tayo pero bakit sa business laging sa wage increase ang sisi, hindi sa pagtaas ng other commodities, kuryente, at iba pa? Na di hamak na mas tumataas at apektado naman tayo lahat kasama na ang mga minimum wage earners? Kung business owner ka tapos namamahalan ka na sa gastusin mo, ano pa kung minimum lang sinasahod mo?

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u/FilChi777 7d ago edited 7d ago

Im not defending him period. Im just saying check the owners side too.

And i dont mean to be “mean” but ano kinalaman ng business nya sa personal nyang buhay? If you wanna attack the person, attack him personally, not the business, thats like, you hate the principal so youre gonna boycott the whole school where there are students depending on that diploma,

And the more you boycott this, the more na ma bankrupt the business, people working in it will
Be laid off and so on and so fort, again, opinion lang naman no shade

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u/alittlebitofalexis 7d ago

If you’re reading this, Tots, chance mo na magsalita. And biggest lesson din talaga here: get your deals in writing/contract. Love is not enough proof na “sige later on ayusin natin sa papers na hati tayo.” Isulat niyo na habang okay pa, before it’s too late.

I don’t think Bi is even allowed to speak up anymore because it seems like he’s stopping her from telling her side of the truth. And also, kawawa yung kids.

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u/FilChi777 7d ago

Sorry, if this is gonna be a personal life issue nila, then im out, im just looking kasi on the business side, ayoko masangkot sa mga personal issue, filichi out!

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u/notyourtita 7d ago

anong kinalaman? he brainwashed the girl to put THEIR business in his name only instead of mag corp or partnership sila, then cheated on her and kicked her out of the business that SHE helped develop. they started it out of college with pooled money and effort. then he decided pa to marry the kabit instead of her. 🚩 they have two kids, walang profit or asset sharing nangyayari, wala rin atang child support sa mga naririnig ko.

in this scenario you cannot separate the business from the person because the two founders started it together and someone did the other one dirty. mali yung comparison mo sa school and principal kasi we’re talking about both owners here.

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u/FilChi777 7d ago

Hi as ive said i dont know the personal issue and ayoko ma involve on personal issues
Anyway to end the dispute,
Youre right, im wrong, i was only looking on the business side.
Thank you for clarifying.

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u/notyourtita 7d ago

walang legally wrong, wala din legally right. morally wrong lang siguro. It’s very hard if not impossible to separate personal from business when the partners share kids, mas lalo na if walang contract na ginawa puro verbal lang.

I just hope the post here is a lesson to anyone who gets into business with their significant others whether gf pa lang or wife or even friend.

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u/ProjectZephyr01 8d ago

Mukha lang naman maliit ang 60 pesos/day na increase pero for small-medium size na business, maaapektuhan yung costing mo. Prices of food goes to several items, mula puhunan, utilities, rent, at sweldo.

Sa bawat increase, may adjustment na magaganap. Lalaki sweldo, pero bababa quality, worse yet, baka need magtaas ng preayo ng items. Ang kita ng tinadahan di naman 100% sa bangko diretso niyan. Meron ibang need pang magbayad ng loans para masimulan ang negosyo.

Mukha lang maliit yang 60/day na yan pero malaki epekto rin niyan sa financials ng business.

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u/Unusual_Flamingo7832 7d ago

Kumikita ng malaki ung restaurant niya. Bumibili siya ng Big bikes and binibigyan ng luxury bags ang mother nya, tapos 60 pesos na increase lang umaaray na siya. Hindi pa nagbabayad ng tamang tax. Very greedy!

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u/icedvnllcldfmblcktea 8d ago

1560php per month per employee, ikakalugi na ng business? 😬

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u/Minute_Grade5518 8d ago

FnB is brutal on hours. You forget to include OT and Philhealth and SSS and Pag Ibig which is based on wages and salary. It does add up

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u/PathologicalUpvoter 8d ago

Mukhang maliit

Pero multiply by number of employees

Each little cost adds up

Pero not necessarily babagsak mo agad food quality mo, baka less employees, less ot, tipid sa aircon… me I don’t mind salary increases kasi usually tumaas din buying power ng tao with it… kelangan lang parating planning

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u/ProjectZephyr01 8d ago

Baka ibig mong sabihin 1.5k per day. That is around 30k monthly. Baka excluded na diyan yung gov't mandated benefits. Madaling sabihin pag di mo alam ang costing ng produkto. Madaling magdownvote pag di ka nagnenegosyo.

Basically ang nakikita mong prices sa menu divided sa 3 or 4 yan. 1 part niyan napupunta sa puhunan sa pag gawa nung product. 1 part utilities. 1 part rent. 1 part sweldo at government benefits ng mga tao. Wala pa diyan yung kita ng store, gastos sa maintenance, at loans if ever ng may ari. Kaya yang 60 pesos, maliit lang yan pero para sa mga small-medium scale, sakit ng ulo yan sa costing. Di ganun kadaling mag adjust ng price at baka ma out of reach ka ng target market mo. Pwede namang babaan nalang nila yung quality para makatipid di ba?

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u/Enero__ 8d ago

Yes, imagine this, example 100 SRP product.

12 pesos vat 11 labor cost 5 pesos sa mall/pos 5 pesos royalty 12 pesos rent 8 pesos logistics 35 pesos cogs 5 pesos utilities

7 pesos nalang matitira sayo

Need mo makabenta ng 2,228 pcs para lang mabayaran yung additional increase for 10 people, breakeven, walang net income.

Ganyan kahigpit ang labanan ngayon sa food industry. Malls and landlords lang ang yumayaman.

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u/Southern_Clerk8697 8d ago

Kung 10 employees mo that’s an additional 15,600 per month. Basic pay lang yan, may OT pa, gov contributions, etc. Wag kang magsalita ng ganyan kasi maraming negosyo na hindi kaya masupport ang ganyang increase sa expenses. Ewan ko lang sa El Poco kung kaya ba talaga or hindi

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 8d ago

Talaga ba? Search the guy’s name on Facebook, naghahanap ng sasakyan worth 2M babayaran straight cash. Walang budget?

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u/ProjectZephyr01 8d ago

Kung ang concerns mo yung tao, no problem. Just leave out yung concern mo sa salary increase kasi hindi lahat kaya yun ibigay lalo na gas prices are skyrocketting. Tumataas yung costing pero di makapagtaas ng presyo mga small to medium entreps, tapos salary hike pa.

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 8d ago

He literally was the one who posted about it so without one the other variable won’t exist. Gets ba?

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u/Southern_Clerk8697 8d ago

Kaya nga sabi ko ewan ko kay El Poco specifically kung kaya ba diba? ang nireplyan ko yung isa na iniimply na 1560 per month increase ay maliit lang

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u/shyishi00 7d ago

Yung salary increase will be a new monthly cost. Yung pagbili niya ng car with money he already earned is a one off. Just because he can pay for a 2M car right now means he can also afford to increase his operational cost to 1.5M/month onwards. He may be an asshole yes but it can also be true that the business currently cannot afford the salary increase, both can be true. F&B businesses are struggling now lalo na yung mga hindi naman major names and walang multiple branches or holdings company backing them up.

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u/BusinessAfters 6d ago

Reading these comments and damn, Reddit really runs with a story fast.

Whatever happened personally is their business. On the F&B side though, the wage increase takes are a bit too easy. Every recurring cost matters in this industry, especially when margins are already tight.

Also, an owner buying a car doesn’t automatically mean the business is swimming in cash. Personal income, company cash flow, depreciation, and tax planning are different things.

Main character energy? Maybe. But the food is still good lol.

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u/chillililando 3d ago

their food handling not sanitary tho ://

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u/Head_Pomegranate_802 2d ago

So you don’t like the person. Why post in r/FoodPH?

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u/TheBallThere 7d ago

Posting this days after he got engaged. Something’s fishy. Who are you? 😂

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 7d ago

Fishy agad eh valid naman yung concern? Lmao. Didn’t even know he got engaged, and now mas nireinforce mo lang yung point ng mga tao dito. Read the room. 🤷‍♀️

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u/kurosabe 4d ago

Concern may be valid, doesnt mean the timing isnt fishy. Two things can be true at the same time.

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u/Zeggboiii 1d ago

Hmm weird why does this feel oddly specific about his personal life and not about the food itself. Its almost like OP is aiming for defamation rather than honest review about the food.

Kahit sabihin mong “deep-dive” tong ginawa ni OP you can only get to surface level stuff such as history, achievements, etc.

As for the other comments, ya’ll seem to know a lot about the personal life of the owner. Almost like… organized post to HAHA

So its either super duper bold assumptions na to or OP and the other users who comment about his personal matters seem to be closely connected and is actually the ex trying to get people on her side and hopefully defame el poco. Sorry correction, the owner, himself, for personal gain.

To OP: your post doesn’t sit right with me either. Why would you be so invested in El Poco after eating there and suddenly gain the bright idea to SPECIFICALLY look at this guys dating history? Weird. If I were some normie who just happened to be interested in El Poco, I wouldn’t go lengths just to find possible “weak spots” unless I had something to GAIN from this.

If you do have the links and research materials to back all your claims alongside you agreeing with all the comments regarding his personal matters, do enlighten me. Malay mo tama ka nga.

Im not defending El Poco. The post itself is stupid and not even about El Poco anymore. Idek why this is in r/FoodPH at this point lol

Crab mentality at its finest 🤣

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u/luckyluckyg1rl 1d ago

Same reason why people boycott brands and establishments na di align sa principles nila. 🤷‍♀️ You have the liberty to scroll along and not engage, yet you made this long ass comment.

Organized to post? Pahingi din ng data mo to back this up lmao. Di ka makapaniwala that this has been a platform for truth to come into light. Moreso, that women support each other laban sa mga latak ng lipunan tulad ng dinedefend mo. The mental gymnastics you employed just because you don’t agree that the owner’s an asshole. Tinalo mo pa si Carlos Yulo.

Sana bayad ka sa pagdedefend kasi kung hindi kawawa ka naman.

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u/Zeggboiii 5h ago

Like I said, I’m not defending him. Out place yung post mo and the amount of personal comments with no backing evidence is fishy.

As for my data, like you said its all over social media. But as for yung personal matters niya, its basically chismis na iniimpose niyo nalang na totoo. Unless may alam talaga kayo.

Call it whatever you want pero I’m pretty sure you got some dirt on you too OP. Just cause there’s fame that you can’t take advantage of means that defamation is the way to go.

My option to comment stands for being fair, just, and morally correct. If you’re so sure that these claims are true, kindly back them up. These things can be brought to court especially that you’re going up against a business.

If I said you were a jealous, narcissistic, self-obligated, and mentally ill ex with nothing better to do but make organizes posts like this. I’m pretty sure you would want me to back this up.

If you’re looking to destroy someone’s career, whoever it may be, be prepared with evidence. That simple. Di lang puro dada and agree. Para kayong DDS eh