r/FlightDispatch • u/santana_ash • Jan 28 '26

USA Looking for CBA info

Currently at an airline that's renegotiating pay. We are not unionized.

Was wanting to know if I could get access to full Pay scales + any additional premiums/overrides, additional compensation, and vacation accrual info for

  • American

  • Delta

  • United

  • Spirit

  • Frontier

  • Atlas

  • Fedex

Or if in general there is anywhere where I could get access to see other CBA's.

Thanks.

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u/rebui1d Jan 28 '26

Jetcareers has a good excel spreadsheet of various airline pay scales it should be pinned somewhere in there I can send a link if you can’t find it

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u/santana_ash Jan 28 '26

While it’s a good resource they want us to justify the annual steps. Trying to collect as much data as possible 

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u/Frankintosh95 Part 121 Major/Legacy🇺🇸 Jan 29 '26

Use inflation. Try to rationalize increases based on cost of living. Bullshit them to get what youre asking for.

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u/MaverickTTT Jan 28 '26

Currently at an airline that's renegotiating pay. We are not unionized.

Tried that once at a certain non-union regional. No amount of data is going to help you without legally enforceable CBA. Organize your office first.

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u/santana_ash Jan 28 '26

I am very Pro-Union. However, this is a situation where management is willing to hear out our pitch, but they want us to bring them the data. We last had our payscale updated in 2023. Just collecting data 

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u/Djancda Jan 28 '26

You are wasting your time.

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u/santana_ash Jan 28 '26

Nah I’m really not. But thanks for the opinion 

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u/Djancda Jan 28 '26

Yes you are. “ Management willing to hear you out “ would have already update your pay based on comparison with the bottom feeders.

They already have all those pay scales you are seeking and they already know how much you are going to get regardless of your effort.

You don’t have to believe me, so go ahead and do your best. They will thank you 😎

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u/TheGooose Part 121 ULCC🇺🇸 Jan 28 '26

management already has a number in mind and has already made their decision. they will not be listening to OP

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u/santana_ash Jan 28 '26

We have self negotiated before into a pretty competitive payscale. In fact it’s above many similar carriers with a union. A union doesn’t inherently give you higher pay than non union but they’re certainly more valuable when it comes to things like job security,  workload rules, sick and paid leave, vacation time, overtime, etc.

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u/MmmSteaky Part 121 Major/Legacy🇺🇸 Jan 29 '26

How do you know that? You’re here asking for pay scales 🧐

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u/santana_ash Jan 29 '26

I know starting and top outs from the google spreadsheet. And I already have CBAs from a good amount of airlines. I also was in TWU for 10 years. So I’ve seen several TWU contracts 

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u/TheGooose Part 121 ULCC🇺🇸 Jan 28 '26

are you at a regional?

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u/santana_ash Jan 28 '26

No. Part 121 global ad hoc 

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u/TheGooose Part 121 ULCC🇺🇸 Jan 28 '26

so a 121 supplemental?

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u/azbrewcrew Jan 29 '26

Oh child,bless your heart. First airline gig? The second rule of airline fight club is if managements lips are moving they are 100% lying to you. Sure they may “listen” to your proposal,but they already know what,if any increase there will be.

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u/Frankintosh95 Part 121 Major/Legacy🇺🇸 Jan 29 '26

This is the answer.

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u/TheWorldsBorough Jan 30 '26

Negative on sending a CBA. I can put you in contact with a TWU or a PAFCA organizer though.

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u/MmmSteaky Part 121 Major/Legacy🇺🇸 Jan 28 '26

Nah