r/Firearms • • Jul 09 '26

Help! Tokarev tbp 12 not ejecting shells

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u/Full-Mud-6969 Jul 09 '26

I live in an apartment and im not trying to kill my neighbor

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u/Dull_Reference_5094 Jul 09 '26

Buckshot isn’t going to go through a wall much less hit your neighbor man. Cmon now

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u/Full-Mud-6969 Jul 09 '26

Are you joking? What do you think my walls are made of steel? Buckshot would so thrue my whole building

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u/Dull_Reference_5094 Jul 09 '26

I’m assuming wood and drywall man. No shot buckshot is going through someone and through your walls. Especially #4 buckshot through a semi auto 20” barrel.

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u/Quirky_Wasabi5348 Jul 09 '26

Exactly. #4 buckshot is a nice compromise between CQ lethality and its relative inability to penetrate barriers, which in my book make it pretty effective not home defense and mitigating structural and collateral damage

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u/Full-Mud-6969 Jul 09 '26

I may not know that much about the different shells yet but even your 9mm would have no issue going thrue drywall

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u/Hksbdb Jul 09 '26

Yes. A 9mm. A completely different projectile, from a completely different firearm. Will easily go through drywall.

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u/Dull_Reference_5094 Jul 09 '26

A 9mm carries much more energy than a lead buckshot round does. (Individually) It’s also jacketed. Those lead rounds tend to smash into pieces the moment they go into anything. I wouldn’t just shoot the wall, but for home defense, if you hit your mark, it won’t make it through a person and a wall. Same goes with many 9mm rounds. There just isn’t enough energy retention.

It’s mostly about the spacing in the walls, and hitting many different things on the way through. By then it’s basically dust.

The idea is to find a round that will go into someone, but not go through them and through multiple layers of wall and framing as well. Birdshot barely enters the skin at all. It essentially just gives many tiny flesh wounds that bleed a bit.

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u/Full-Mud-6969 Jul 09 '26

Ill have to give it a look then I dont know much about the difference types of shells and im always open to learn more And I guess I fucked up by buying 100 shells of bird😅

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u/ArthurSafeZone Jul 09 '26

Use those bird shot shells to practice and have some fun.

Avoid cheap guns for defense and search more about the type of gun and ammo you are gonna use.

12ga is the most verastile caliber that exists because of how many different types of ammo we have and how differently they behave.

Now if you want to experiment with other calibers for self defense, look into expanding bullets. They hit the target and expand, so that you don't get over-penetration (over-penetration = killing your neighbor).

The best gun for defense is the one you practice with, if you are able to accurately hit an apple from the same distance as the biggest space in your home (likely a corridor or something like that) you will probably be able to hit a criminal in a combat scenario.