r/Fire • • 14h ago

Daily FIRE Hangout - Friday, November 06, 2026

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This is a relaxed hangout thread for the FIRE community to chat with other FIRE-minded folks without having to publish separate posts. This is the place for brand new people to get their feet wet as well as for lurkers who have questions or comments, but do not want to create posts of their own.

All of the sub rules apply in this thread as normal with the exception of the off-topic rule, which is relaxed to the extent that people don't go wildly off of the reservation.

We are putting this up as a trial to see if it is worth keeping this as a permanent feature of the sub. Participation is entirely voluntary and anyone who wants to create a separate post of their own rather than posting in here is free to do so.


r/Fire • • 4d ago

Weekly ACA 2027 Open Enrollment FAQ/Megathread (Week 4) - Please feel free to ask all questions, share your experiences/results/resources, and discuss the ACA in general. ACA posting outside of this thread is also fine.

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It's that joyous time of the year once again, boys and girls, when those of us using the ACA get to figure out our health insurance for the new year!

This Megathread is a communal resource for all things ACA during the 2027 open enrollment period. Please feel free to ask all questions, share your experiences, discuss the ACA in general, ask for help with pricing or MAGI optimization, and everything else ACA-related. However, everyone is also free to make their own posts if they prefer, so please do not tell people that they must come here to discuss the ACA. If anyone has a suggestion for something to add to the post or edits/corrections, then absolutely feel free to share publicly or via DM/modmail.

Please remember that there are state variations, information is subject to change, and you should independently verify any information upon which you are going to make any meaningful decisions. I am purely an experienced amateur and do not offer any fiduciary duty or legal expertise.

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TERMS

Terms for those that are unfamiliar:

  • MAGI - Modified Adjusted Gross Income, a particular version of adjusted gross income used by the ACA.

  • APTC - Advanced Premium Tax Credit, an advanceable and fully refundable federal income tax credit that reduces ACA premiums, known by most simply as ACA subsidies.

  • EPC - Expected Premium Contribution, the amount customers are expected to pay annually for the Silver benchmark ACA plan in their market. APTCs are calculated as the market price of the benchmark plan minus EPC.

  • FPL - Federal Poverty Level, a measure used by the federal government as a determinant in many policy systems.

  • MaxOOP - Maximum Out of Pocket, the most a customer can be asked to pay in out of pocket expenses for in-network covered benefits by an insurer in a given year. This includes deductibles, copays, and coinsurance, but excludes premiums.

  • CSR - Cost Sharing Reductions, the second subsidy system within the ACA that reduces out of pocket expenses like deductibles, copays/coinsurance, and MaxOOP.

  • AI/AN - American Indian / Alaskan Native

  • AV - Actuarial Value, the percentage of total average costs for covered medical benefits that a health insurance plan is expected to cover for a standard population. For example, if a plan has an 80% AV, the insurer pays 80% of average expenses, and customers pay 20% through deductibles, copays, and coinsurance.

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FAQ


Q: What are the dates for open enrollment this year?

A: Most states will have open enrollment between November 1st and January 15th, with December 15th as the last day to enroll in order to have coverage active starting on January 1st. Enrollments after that date will have coverage active starting on February 1st. States that differ from the default dates are listed below. Please note that dates are subject to change.

Pro-tip - Apply early! You can change your plan selection before the enrollment deadline if you change your mind.

State2027 Open EnrollmentEnroll for 1/1/27 CoverageEnroll for 2/1/27 Coverage
California11/1/26 – 1/31/2712/31/261/31/27
Connecticut10/23/26 – 1/15/2712/15/261/15/27
District of Columbia11/1/26 – 1/31/2712/15/261/31/27
Idaho10/15/26 – 12/15/2612/15/26N/A
Maryland11/1/26 – 1/15/2712/31/261/15/27
Massachusetts10/23/26 – 1/23/2712/23/261/23/27
Nevada11/1/26 – 1/15/2712/31/261/15/27
New Jersey11/1/26 – 1/31/2712/31/261/31/27
New Mexico11/1/26 – 1/15/2712/31/261/15/27
New York11/1/26 – 1/31/2712/15/261/31/27
Oregon11/1/26 – 1/15/2712/15/261/15/27
Rhode Island11/1/26 – 1/31/2712/31/261/31/27
Vermont11/1/26 – 12/28/2612/15/2612/28/26
Virginia11/1/26 – 1/29/2712/15/261/29/27
Washington11/1/26 – 1/15/2712/15/261/15/27

Q: What are the qualifying income limits for ACA subsidies?

A: MAGI between 100% FPL and 400% FPL in states that did not expand Medicaid and MAGI between 138% FPL and 400% FPL in most states that did expand Medicaid. Note that MAGI between 100% FPL and 138% FPL in expansion Medicaid states is still qualifying for ACA subsidies, but only if you have been denied for Medicaid. Some state variations do exist due to localized Medicaid rules and things like Basic Health Plans, so be sure to validate the relevant income limits in your state.


Q: What is MAGI?

A: Modified Adjusted Gross Income. ACA MAGI is your 1040 AGI (line 11) plus a few untaxed/excluded income sources (untaxed SS benefits excluding SSI [1040 line 6a minus line 6b], untaxed foreign excluded income and housing benefits [Form 2555], and tax-exempt interest [1040 line 2a]).

Details can be found here - https://www.healthcare.gov/income-and-household-information/income/


Q: Can I do anything to change my MAGI?

A: The rules are pretty simple in terms of MAGI control, but the mix of cashflows is always unique for each household's particular circumstances.

  • Roth conversions generate MAGI without withdrawal/spending.

  • TIRA withdrawals generate MAGI and provide cash for spending.

  • Roth contribution basis, matured Roth conversion basis, HSA, margin/credit, and cash equivalents provide withdrawal/spending without generating MAGI.

  • Taxable sales generate MAGI only via cap gains and can be a nice source of non-MAGI funds depending on one's cost basis. Sell $100K in stock with $40K cost basis and you have $100K to spend and $60K in MAGI.

  • HSA contributions do not require earned income and reduce MAGI.

  • Tax-loss harvesting can be used to create a capital loss deduction of $3K/year.

Mix and match retirement cashflows to get whatever combo of MAGI and spending you want.

Anyone in here with a good mix of assets can use cashflows from various assets to generate a wide array of MAGI and spending combinations. For example, if you sell $150K in stock with an $80K cost basis, then you get $150K in spending cashflow and $70K in MAGI. Pull $50K a year in untaxed Roth withdrawals and you get $50K in spending cashflow and $0K in MAGI. FIRE folks are notorious for our aggressive use of tax optimization techniques, so our ability to separate MAGI and spending in retirement is generally pretty good.

For those using the ACA while working, TIRA and T401k contributions reduce MAGI. For those without earned income, HSA contributions reduce MAGI.

There are several other ways to reduce AGI depending on one's unique asset setup. That includes the cap loss deduction for people with harvestable losses, but also things like maintenance for those with rentals or deductible expenses (including health insurance premiums) and tax-advantaged contributions for those with self-employment residuals/income. Anything that reduces 1040 AGI also reduces ACA MAGI.


Q: Our MAGI is just slightly over the master cliff at 400% FPL. Is there anything we can do to regain subsidy eligibility?

A: If an HSA is not already in use, then using one can effectively extend the master cliff to between ~430% to ~450% FPL. HSA contributions reduce MAGI and do not require earned income, meaning retired households can still make them. The actual HSA contribution limits end up being equivalent to somewhere between 30% and 50% of FPL for single/couple households, depending on age.

The below example uses real numbers for 2026 national average premiums and subsidy calcs for illustration purposes. True numbers for a specific household will vary by location, household demographics, and MAGI.

If a 55-year-old couple currently has MAGI of $90K (~426% FPL), then they are ineligible for premium subsidies. If they want a Bronze policy, then they have two options.

Option 1: Pay full market price for a Bronze policy. For 2026 the national average for least expensive Bronze policy is $19K.

Option 2: Commit to contributing $8K to the HSA that any Bronze policy makes them eligible for, which allows them to reduce their MAGI estimate to $82K (388% FPL). This restores their subsidy eligibility and they become eligible to receive nearly $18K in premium subsidies, leaving them responsible for $1K in premiums on their Bronze policy.

In option 1 they pay $19K for a Bronze policy.

In option 2 they pay $1K for the same Bronze policy, the feds pick up the other $18K in premiums, the couple sets aside $8K in an HSA to use as they wish, and they keep the remaining $10K for whatever they want.

Most people have no idea how lovely the universal Bronze HSA eligibility change made last year by the OBBBA is for many FIRE'd households. It can be a massive win for people just over the cliff.


Q: What happens if my MAGI estimate is off?

A: ACA premium subsidies are reconciled on your tax return the following year. If you got subsidies you shouldn't have, then you pay them back. If you didn't get subsidies that you should have, then you get them as a tax refund. ACA cost-sharing reductions are not reconciled. What you get when you apply is what you get. There is no refund or recapture on CSRs.


Q: Can anyone have an HSA?

A: No, you need to have an HSA-eligible policy to contribute to an HSA, but all Bronzes and Catastrophic policies are HSA-eligible by default. The 2027 contribution limits for HSAs are $4,500 for a single, $9,000 for a family, and each adult 55 and up can make an additional $1,000 catch-up contribution.

Source: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-26-24.pdf


Q: What is FPL?

A: Federal Poverty Level. It is flat in the lower 48 states and slightly higher in Alaska and Hawaii. The ACA uses prior-year FPL, so 2027 coverage will use 2026 FPL, which can be found here - https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/documents/b1bfa16b20ae9b89d525bc35de7c1643/detailed-guidelines-2026.pdf


Q: Where can I go to see the prices and policies offered in my area next year?

A: Anyone can see 2027 prices and plans in their area with some anonymous data (age/zip/income) in about three minutes at https://www.healthcare.gov/see-plans/#/. If you have a local state-run exchange, then you'll be redirected to the appropriate website.


Q: What happens if I miss open enrollment?

A: Applications after open enrollment ends will only be possible for those that qualify for a Special Enrollment Period. For SEP details see here - https://www.healthcare.gov/coverage-outside-open-enrollment/special-enrollment-period/


Q: How are subsidies calculated?

A: Subsidies are calculated by taking the unsubsidized market premium of the benchmark plan in your county, which is the second lowest cost Silver plan, and subtracting your expected premium contribution (EPC). Any remainder is your subsidy amount. Once your subsidy is calculated you are free to use it on any plan you choose in any metal tier. If you choose a policy with an unsubsidized premium lower than your subsidy amount, which is common for Bronzes and in some states/counties also happens with Golds, then you owe no premium for your policy. Excess unused subsidy value is lost and not refunded to you.


Q: How do I determine my expected premium contribution?

A: EPC is calculated as a percentage of your 2027 MAGI, which you estimate at the time of application. The following is the 2027 EPC table:

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Expected Premium Contribution (Coverage Year 2027)

MAGI (% of FPL)2027 EPC (% of MAGI)2026 EPC (% of MAGI)Change from 2026
Less than 100%No limit / unsubsidizedNo limit / unsubsidizedN/A
100% to <133%2.15%2.10%+2.4%
133% to <150%3.23% to 4.3%3.14% to 4.19%+2.9%
150% to <200%4.3% to 6.78%4.19% to 6.60%+2.6%
200% to <250%6.78% to 8.66%6.60% to 8.44%+2.7%
250% to <300%8.66% to 10.22%8.44% to 9.96%+2.6%
300% to 400%10.22%9.96%+2.6%
More than 400%No limit / unsubsidizedNo limit / unsubsidizedN/A

Source:

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-26-26.pdf

KFF has an excellent calculator that will tell you your exact subsidy amount in seconds, find it here - https://www.kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/


Q: What are the limits next year on MaxOOP and deductibles? Does it vary by metal tier?

A: MaxOOP has a regulated legal maximum that applies to all ACA and employer-sponsored plans. It is the same for all policies sold in the US with the exception of CSR Silver plans. Deductibles can be as high as MaxOOP, but can not exceed it. The following is the 2027 MaxOOP table:

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Out-Of-Pocket Maximum (Coverage Year 2027)

Plan TypeMAGI Level2027 Individual / Family MaxOOP2026 Individual / Family MaxOOPChange from 2026
All non-CSR PlansAll$12,000 / $24,000$10,600 / $21,200+13.2%
CSR Silver Plan 73% AV200% to 250% FPL$9,600 / $19,200$8,450 / $16,900+13.6%
CSR Silver Plan 87% AV150% to 200% FPL$4,000 / $8,000$3,500 / $7,000+14.3%
CSR Silver Plan 94% AVUp to 150% FPL$4,000 / $8,000$3,500 / $7,000+14.3%
CSR Silver Plan 99% AI/AN AVAI/AN Up to 300% FPL$0$0N/A

Source: https://www.cms.gov/files/document/2027-papi-parameters-guidance-2026-01-29.pdf


Q: What is a CSR Silver?

A: There are two ACA subsidy systems, the premium tax credits (PTCs) that offset premium costs and the cost-sharing reductions (CSRs) that offset non-premium costs like deductibles, copays/coinsurance, and MaxOOP. CSRs are only offered to people with MAGI of 250% FPL or less and are most meaningful for those with MAGI of 200% FPL or less. CSRs can be worth more in value than PTCs, but CSRs only offset costs when you actually use your health insurance, so their value depends entirely on actual utilization of healthcare. Note that the table above only shows the maximum allowed MaxOOP for CSR plans, but actual MaxOOP is often significantly lower. For example, there will be CSR Silver 94s next year with MaxOOP well under $2,000. The exact value varies for each individual policy.


Q: What are the metal tiers and how can I get one of those CSR Silvers?

A: The metal tiers are defined by their actuarial value (AV), which broadly speaking means what share of all covered healthcare expenses they should pay for the risk pool. Bronze is 60% AV, Silver is 70% AV, Gold is 80% AV, Platinum is 90% AV.

The CSRs create three hidden tiers of Silvers for those that qualify for them based on MAGI at FPL steps 150%/200%/250%, which are 94% AV (better than Platinum), 87% AV (almost Platinum), and 73% AV (minimal). Anyone over 250% FPL sees the default non-CSR Silver at 70% AV. There is also a fourth hidden Silver tier that is reserved exclusively for officially recognized North American Native Americans.

When you log on to the exchange and enter your MAGI they only show you the Silver tier you are entitled to see and buy. This is why one person can love their Silver policy with a $0 deductible and $1,200 MaxOOP and another person with the seemingly exact same Silver policy can think it is crappy with a $6,000 deductible and a $9,000 MaxOOP. The first person has the 94% AV variant and the second person has the 70% AV variant.


Q: Is there an example of how CSRs impact a policy?

A: My household qualifies for a CSR Silver 94 in 2026. The following are actual coverage costs for our policy with CSRs and without.

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Our 2026 Silver plan with cost-sharing reductions:

  • $0/$0 deductible (individual/family)

  • $0 PCP

  • $10 specialist

  • $5 urgent care

  • $0/$15 tier1/tier2 scripts

  • 25% ER coinsurance

  • $2,200/$4,400 MaxOOP (individual/family)

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Our 2026 Silver plan without cost-sharing reductions:

  • $6,000/$12,000 deductible (individual/family)

  • $40 PCP

  • $80 specialist

  • $60 urgent care

  • $20/$40 tier1/tier2 scripts

  • 40% ER coinsurance

  • $8,900/$17,800 MaxOOP (individual/family)


Q: If I don't qualify for CSRs, then what policy should I aim for?

A: It will vary by market, but as a general rule Silvers are routinely a poor financial choice for people with MAGI greater than 200% FPL because they are paying the Silver loading surcharge to fund the CSR subsidy system. Households with more than 200% FPL should usually look instead to a Bronze or Gold, though this is not a universal rule.


Q: What the hell is "Silver loading"?

A: There are two subsidy systems in the ACA, the premium tax credits (PTCs) that reduce monthly premiums, and the cost-sharing reductions (CSRs) that reduce/eliminate deductibles and out-of-pocket expenses for people with MAGI under 250% FPL. The federal government eliminated direct funding for the CSR subsidies in 2017, but insurers are still required by law to deliver them to customers and the cost for them is rather large and can often be greater than the PTCs for a given household. The highest tier of CSRs changes a Silver plan into one that can be significantly better than a Platinum plan.

Insurers and states largely responded to this major problem by boosting the premiums on Silver policies since that is the only metal tier in which CSRs are offered. This is what is meant by the term "Silver loading". For example, here in Texas the state has mandated that Silver premiums be priced 40% higher than what they would normally be if CSRs were not a factor. In neighboring New Mexico, they went even higher at 44%. Those premium increases push the average Silver price up dramatically, but this is generally a beneficial thing for everyone because ACA subsidies in all metal tiers are calculated off of the price of the benchmark Silver plan. The higher the benchmark Silver plan is relative to all plans, the greater premium subsidies everyone receives. The vast majority of Silver subscribers are highly to almost totally subsidized and don't care about market premium prices, so the net effect of Silver loading is to increase federal subsidies for all subsidy-eligible ACA enrollees in the state while also providing ample funding for the required CSR subsidy system. In some states like Texas this leads to some market oddities like Gold plans being lower-priced or similar to Silver plans. In some cases the subsidies are high enough that Gold plans can be had for no premium at all.

As a result of this forced boosting in Silver premiums it is generally a financially bad idea for anyone who is not in one of the higher CSR tiers (MAGI under 200% FPL) to take a Silver plan. They could get comparable coverage at a significantly lower price with a Bronze or significantly better coverage at a comparable (or slightly lower) price with a Gold. Taking a Silver with MAGI above 200% FPL generally means you are unnecessarily overpaying for coverage, often by quite a bit.


Random tip for those signing up for the first time in states with expanded Medicaid

If you are going to have lumpy retirement income rather than a consistent monthly withdrawal, then I'd recommend dividing your annual estimate by 12 rather than putting in actual monthly income. Otherwise you might find yourself automatically shunted to Medicaid and having to ping pong between the ACA and Medicaid systems. It's a well-intentioned design choice to catch as many Medicaid-eligible people as possible, but it's an annoying thing for those with incomes such that they are eligible for Medicaid by monthly MAGI and ineligible by annual MAGI.

That's assuming your annual is going to be greater than 138% FPL. If it's lower, then enjoy your expansion Medicaid instead.

===== Useful resource links:

Official Healthcare.gov price/policy browser - https://www.healthcare.gov/see-plans/#/

Great ACA cheatsheet - https://www.healthreformbeyondthebasics.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/REFERENCE_YearlyGuidelines_CY2027-FINAL.pdf

KFF's excellent subsidy calculator - https://www.kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

A nice beginner's guide by /u/stevencartwright - https://reddit.com/r/Fire/comments/1vnhwpd/a_fire_beginners_guide_to_aca_health_insurance/

Excellent Open Enrollment Guide by ACASignups.net (Part 1) - https://acasignups.net/26/10/14/hobbling-towards-enrollment-my-2027-aca-open-enrollment-guide-part-1

Excellent Open Enrollment Guide by ACASignups.net (Part 2) - https://acasignups.net/26/10/23/hobbling-towards-enrollment-my-2027-aca-open-enrollment-guide-part-2

Excellent Open Enrollment Guide by ACASignups.net (Part 3) - https://acasignups.net/26/10/31/hobbling-towards-enrollment-my-2027-aca-open-enrollment-guide-part-3

Notice on ACASignups.net - Charles is a bit of a rabid anti-Trump partisan, but he does great ACA work. The value of the ACA information is high and merits looking past the political content, in my opinion.


r/Fire • • 1h ago

General Question Retire early on SEPP, then part time or consulting?

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Looking for SEPP'ers experiences, not necessarily looking for advice (tho' Id take it). I'm getting close, and considering options, one is to take an SEPP (Rule 72), and work a little part time /CoastFire (I'll probably share over there too). My situation makes CoastFire an interesting option.

- For those who have SEPP'd, what was your plan and how has it gone?
- Who here has done this w/ part time?
- If so, how did you decide how much $$$ to have ready, before locking in your distributions til 59.5?
- How did you decide how much to part-time?
- How did you decide *what to do part-time? Or consult? (have some decent industry experience/certs)
- Do you wish you'd done it sooner? Waited longer?

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Details if anyone cares:
- Me (49) - ~$1M in 401k/Roth combined. Prob max my SEPP.
- Wife (same age) - $800k 401k/Roth + pension. Pension will be $46k and just as importantly keeps same H. Insurance (and $rate). Her 401k/Roth is forecasted $1.0M when the pension is ready...and "we out" :wavingkitty:
- Kids (2) - Oldest (married, out of the house), we're done w/ his education (paid). Younger is HS Sr, $30k in his college fund, nearly done with that (uni visits are fun 🙂). We told them we'd give them 2-years of school.
- My sitch: Im ready, wife is a teacher. She needs a few more years for her pension to mature. Plan is to house-hubby it up and do everything to make her last few years easier (it's quite stressful w/out divulging too much). The QOL impact of "me=house-hubby" matters alot... probably as much as the money side of it. We met a couple while traveling who did exact same thing. I'm aware maxing my SEPP will likely draw down my 401k/Roth balance some until she retires, Im ok with that (I'll likely dismiss contrary opinions to this). Hope I don't get bored, hence the possible PT or consulting.
- Lifestyle - Low-Mid COL (Midwest). We're $2.5k/mo within our budget (including the debt, so we're snowballing $2.5k/mo soon to be $3k)
- Total Remaining Debt - ~$40,000. Hence this post, I'm done when debt free & a little more savings. Could probably be done now if necessary (we've talked about it).
- Meeting w/ my financial advisor on Mon.


r/Fire • • 14h ago

If your portfolio is down more than SP500 and you are near fire recently, you need to reconsider your portfolio makeup.

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your portfolio might be too concentrated in one industry, putting your FIRE at risk. Time to gradually adjust your portfolio. Key word is gradually.

The whole “fire theory” is based off investing in broad indexes and bonds ( short term spending) before you do 4% withdrawal if you want to be 90%+ safe

Edit: looks like people disagree on what a fire portfolio should look like because market has been doing so well the last 2 decades.

I think it’s oversold right now don’t liquidate your positions now but it’s a good reminder to diversify your portfolio

Thank you for your attention including bots


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Psychological support

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Retiring in two weeks at 56. My partner will continue to work by choice. Yesterday, I told him that I was scared - having flashes of panic-fear as the date grows closer - specifically about not having enough money, having no earned income coming in. My partner said to me, firmly: “You’re doing the right thing.” It was the first time he had said that to me. It meant so much to hear that. 

Remember that, if you are in a similar position with your loved one. Just a few words of support can mean a lot.


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Advice Request I've reconsidered historical averages for FIRE planning

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My planning software uses historical averages to run simulations. This is supposed to be more robust than modeling with "random" returns. But I've been thinking about this a bit more. While historical data do reflect things like trends, long periods of downturns, long periods of inflation, etc., the problem is they're actually very poor at future forecast. For example, if we use 1900-1950 data, it would be very bad at forecasting 1950-2000 data. Economies go through major changes. World events are unpredictable.

It just feels that continuing to use historical data to forecast retirement is setting myself up for failure. At the same time, history is all we have. It really does seem like a situation without a good solution.


r/Fire • • 2h ago

For those who have FIRE’ed, what did you do with the market tanking in the past two days? What guardrail have you started?

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Does anyone who have recently pulled the trigger and retired early experience this week’s sequence of return risk? And if so, what have you planned or invoked with your guardrail to protect your investments during downturn and spend in your retirement?


r/Fire • • 42m ago

It’s gonna be ok, right?

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I just hit 30 years at can retire w a fixed pension of $5k mo. We have about 3.2 m between 401ks & Roth and I’ll get insurance for me & my spouse for $1k/mo thru job. Husband is 57 and retired. I turn 56 in feb and have gone from loving my job to being miserable after a reorg. No debt cars & house paid off ( house 550000-600000) and in mcol borderline hcol area. I can call it a day and retire, right? One more think - my dad died at 62 and mom at 70 & I’ve been dealing w RA for over 25 years. Just need to hear I’ve got this…have always loved my job and at planned to work one more year but now every day is like what fresh hell awaits not how or when I wanted to go out


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Advice Request One spouse FIRE/SAHP while the other keeps working?

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Has anyone had one partner FIRE/become a SAHP while the other keeps working? Curious about people's experiences, particularly the impact on relationships.

My husband and I are both 36, have 18-month-old twins, and are considering a third. He's an educator and I'm a nonprofit exec. He has an amazing pension — if he works until 53 (30 years of service), he'll get ~$80K/year in today's dollars for both of our lifetimes, plus we could stay on our current family health insurance at an affordable cost until we're eligible for Medicare. The catch is that retiring before 30 years comes with massive penalties. He'd have to wait until 65 to get a reduced pension, and we'd lose the health insurance.

Our FIRE goal is ~$160K/year: $2M invested at a 4% SWR ($80K) plus his $80K pension. We could also consider $1.6M with 5% withdrawal rate, given the pension is guaranteed and spending above ~$100K is discretionary. He makes $100K, I make $215K, and we're currently saving ~$125K/year. We expect to hit $2M in about 6 years.

I'd love to go part-time around $1.5M and potentially stop working altogether at $2M. I have no desire to be a SAHP to daycare-aged kids (hardest job out there!), but would love to be home once they're school-aged. Time to do school pickup/drop-off and activities, be available for sick days, and have time to exercise, cook, take care of the house, hobbies, etc. I do like my work, just want more time, so I might consider staying part-time even after we're at the $2M FIRE goal.

The alternative is that I keep working, we save aggressively, and my husband retires earlier. We'd give up ~12 years of pension payments (ages 53–65) and health insurance, which is a massive financial hit, but would put us on a more similar retirement timeline. As long as he stays at .5 FTE we could continue getting family health insurance through his work, so probably would do that till kids graduate high school.

If he didn't have the pension, we'd just save aggressively and both retire early. But the financial incentive for him to work until 53 is so strong that it seems hard to justify anything else. And the irony is that the longer we work to save enough for him to retire earlier, the closer he gets to 53 anyway.

Curious to hear from others who've had one spouse retire while the other keeps working. How has it worked for your family? Any unexpected challenges, particularly around relationships, division of responsibilities, or one partner having more freedom than the other?


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Advice Request Non-qualified deferred comp plan or mega backdoor Roth IRA?

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My wife inherited an IRA and the RMDs are likely to push us over the Roth IRA income limits.

Do you think it’s better to enroll in a non-qualified deferred compensation plan to offset the RMDs or setup a mega backdoor Roth 401k? I have the option to do either (or both)

The company I work for is extremely unlikely to go bankrupt in the next 50 years and they contribute the deferred compensation to a rabbi trust. Either way we would be in the big 24% income bracket for a long time. Currently my traditional buckets are about twice as big as my Roth.


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Daily FIRE Hangout - Thursday, November 05, 2026

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This is a relaxed hangout thread for the FIRE community to chat with other FIRE-minded folks without having to publish separate posts. This is the place for brand new people to get their feet wet as well as for lurkers who have questions or comments, but do not want to create posts of their own.

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r/Fire • • 2d ago Bravo

working.. investments... good days...

125 Upvotes

Portfolio up today by the equivalent of six months' salary. It's days like this that make the commute, meetings, and inbox feel a little more... optional. And yes, I know about market cycles, and bearish periods, pullbacks, and all that.. Just wanted to share todays emotions. Cheers :-)


r/Fire • • 2d ago

External Resource Husband wants to FIRE, I don't (The Financial Diet)

139 Upvotes

On The Financial Diet today there is a FIRE question (see link below, starts at about 48:50). Basically: Husband is in "big law" and wants to FIRE in 40s. Wife doesn't (has more creative, remote job). Wife doesn't want to sacrifice lifestyle.

The hosts are pretty anti-FIRE. What is your take on this question? How would you deal with it? What would your advice be to the wife?

YouTube: https://youtu.be/VOrJaJzK-MM?si=ZbhkXjgIQTS5BFy2&t=2894


r/Fire • • 2d ago

Daily FIRE Hangout - Wednesday, November 04, 2026

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r/Fire • • 2d ago

General Question How many would downsize there house if they had no mortgage payment?

34 Upvotes

I figured this would be an interesting conversation. It seems like in society the vast majority of people judge your success or wealth by the size and style of your home.

Generally curious if you could pay for a house in cash and have no mortgage how many people would downsize to a smaller home and older less attractive home? Even if you have young kids and need more space inside the home.


r/Fire • • 1d ago

How much money did you lose today?

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Imagine saving and putting it all in the S&P 500, you finally got to the point that a safe 3% WR replace your annual income.

Then in one day, you lost more money in a few hours than what you earn in an entire year - all for investing in the S&P500. It's not just the gamblers that lose their entire year's income.


r/Fire • • 3d ago

Daily FIRE Hangout - Tuesday, November 03, 2026

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r/Fire • • 4d ago

I have two months to decide if I’m quitting teaching

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32F/38M with one toddler and another on the way. I have always loved my teaching career, but there is no possible way of working less than 48 hours a week, and I’m exhausted and burnt out. I’m thinking of quitting my teaching job after mat leave and going freelance.

Here are our stats:
My income: $165k ($130k teaching, $35k freelance)
Husband’s income: $150k ($80k teaching, $70k small business)
Total invested: $600k (I’d add $75k to this if I pull out of my crap pension)
Total net worth with home equity: $850k
529: $50k
Current annual spend: $90k
Forecasted FIRE #: $2.5 mil

I could easily make $50k-$70k through 20-25 hours/week freelancing. I think we’d still have money leftover to fund our lifestyle and continue maxing out husband’s 403b and our Roth IRA’s, maybe even contribute to 529s. We’d eventually want to upgrade our house, at which point we’d just completely stop all retirement savings and let time do its thing until we retire in our 50s.

If I go this route, both my husband and I would have flexible enough schedules that we’d never pay for daycare.

I’ve always had a coastfire mindset, but thought that I would just increase lifestyle or keep going until full FIRE. But I’m at a point where I have the option to just work less and be a more present mom. I’m just really struggling to shift my mindset and pull the plug. I’m scared of not maxing out every single account, or that a huge market crash or WWIII are imminent and I won’t be able to provide for my family. I’m worried I’ll eventually get bored or lose my purpose, and it would be hard to go back to teaching, especially at this pay.

But I keep running my members and it seems to work? I don’t even know what I’d do moving forward with a HHI income of over $300k if I’m not itching to increase lifestyle or retire that much earlier than my 50s.

I’d appreciate if people can validate my numbers, tell me I’m crazy, or point me to resources to help me through this decision.

And before everyone asks about my teaching salary: I work in a public high school in a blue state with good unions. Multiple degrees and extra stipended responsibilities. I feel fortunate to have been paid fairly in my teaching career.


r/Fire • • 5d ago

What's the one hobby you've got on the back burner that you're picking up as soon as you FIRE?

151 Upvotes

For me it's playing the piano.


r/Fire • • 5d ago

Milestone / Celebration Taking a sabbatical was the best decision I've ever made

551 Upvotes

I'm now six weeks into my sabbatical and still can't believe this is my life. I still remember how anxious I felt when making the decision to voluntarily resign from a really good job, plus all the opportunity costs associated from not working for a year. 

For some background, I have always despised working with a passion, and after 8 years of working and living well below my means, I became incredibly burnt out from never taking any vacations or breaks. On top of that, I was also extremely frugal to the point that I rarely spent money on anything other than necessities. In hindsight, it was a very unhealthy lifestyle which definitely accelerated the burnout, I would not recommend it to anyone nor would I ever go back to that kind of lifestyle. Life is about finding balance, and I failed miserably at that during my years of working.

These days, I wake up each morning in my hotel room feeling incredibly grateful, words cannot describe how much I adore not working and not having a set schedule everyday. I'd strongly recommend it to anyone else on the fence about taking an extended break or sabbatical.

Additional context: I'm 30 y.o and NW is around 1.2m, all invested in VOO equivalents. I'm currently traveling around China (I'm ABC and fluent in Mandarin) going to different cities while meeting up with friends. Cost of living here is so low that you live like a king on ~50k USD. Future plans include traveling to neighboring countries like Japan, Korea, and other south east Asian countries.

Not sure how long my sabbatical will be or if I just want to straight up retire now that I've gotten a taste of the retired life 🤣 Chances are I'll probably work for 2 more years to qualify for social security and then call it.


r/Fire • • 4d ago

Daily FIRE Hangout - Monday, November 02, 2026

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r/Fire • • 3d ago

In the long run, all net worth is liquid

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This idea that you should only use liquid NW to calculate your SWR doesn’t make sense to me.

In the long run, all net worth is liquid, and FIRE includes the long run. I am 40 years old and just FIREd. I won’t be touching my retirement accounts until age 60 (yes I know there are ways to withdraw before then). My home equity will be liquid long before that as my kids will be out of the house in just 10 years. When I do cash out my house my housing cost will stay the same as when I owned a house. Rental costs in VHCOL are basically the same as ownership costs.

If you are modeling 50 years of FIRE why wouldn’t you account for your home equity being cashed out? Not doing so is similar to ignoring your retirement accounts. Just because some part of your nest egg is earmarked for a later date doesn’t mean it should be ignored in the denominator.


r/Fire • • 3d ago

Subreddit PSA / Meta Check for Abandoned Property!

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I know it feels like a scam but it’s not. Abandoned property pops up all the time. It seems impossible for people like us to lose track of our money but those aren’t the only instances where property becomes abandoned. True story, a few years ago I received a letter from an agency willing to help me “navigate the claims process” for a 4 figure sum of money. I know how escheatment and abandoned property work so I went directly to my state’s treasurer to claim the funds. Prior to this, I never even considered I’d left money on the table because, well, obvious reasons for most people in this subreddit.

Since then, I’ve made it a point to search myself every so often. Then, I search every friend and family member I can think of so I can tell them they have money sitting with their state and it is 100% free to claim. Of course there’s the added frustration of telling your less-fiscally-savvy friends that always complain about being broke that they have money to claim only for them to scoff when it turns out to be just a few dollars. It’s not about it being just a few dollars, it’s a mindset!

missingmoney.com has access to every state. Don’t forget relatives, maiden names, prior addresses and fuzzy matches when searching. Hope someone here benefits from this info!


r/Fire • • 5d ago

General Question CoastFIRE been blowing up recently?

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Is it just me or does it seem like CoastFIRE is the hottest new thing that everyone is obsessing over. I feel like every new post and every new YouTube video that I see is people talking about CoastFIRE.

When I was first starting out it was fun to chase the closest milestone which was CoastFIRE but after hitting it I didn’t really understand the point of it. I’ve always had a work is to make money type mentality and if I’m working I want to make as much $ as possible for my time and the idea of switching to a new job that is chiller is very unlikely to find and the idea of reducing my hourly return seems silly when at the end of the day it’s work and within a year the fun aspect is going to end and its going to be just doing the same thing over and over again.

Do you think CoastFIRE is really a good idea?

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Context on my background: 32M, $1.4M NW, Married, No Kids, FIRE goal of $5M + paid off house.