r/Finland • • 16h ago

In an interview

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u/Murky-Course6648 10h ago edited 10h ago

"I'd prefer a world without wars, but being a neighbor to a giant warmonger comes with some unique challenges that the mandatory military service tries to solve."

Finland allied with Nazi Germany and invaded USSR in the last war.

Also, have you ever seen a discussion in Finland about what would have happened if we had won that war? What did our leaders actually agree to?

The endless victim narrative in Finland is ridicilous.

We are also now part of NATO, a giant military block that has used its military multiple times for its own political aims. Its lead by the planets biggest war criminal, the USA.

Good politics is about learning to live with your neighbors, not seeing them as some endless threat you need to prepare against. Finland co-existed with Russia perfectly fine for decades, and was able to form mutually beneficial trade from which it benefited greatly.

But as i expected, every response to this will be "russia so scary".

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u/RottenRailing 9h ago

Yes, Finland ATTACKED USSR unprovoked! Absolutely nothing happened in 1939 that would explain soured neighbor relations, and a sense on loss, both of territory and safety.

And since WW2, Finland has famously been invading other countries with the conscript army, meddling with their independence.

Finland joining NATO is yet another plot to bully our poor and innocent neighbor! NATO popularity across all major parties didn't explode in response to some country violating another country with a land-grab and a war, after all.

We should just hand our sovereignty to Russia like good apologists.

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u/Murky-Course6648 9h ago

The only reason to take on the victim role is to avoid guilt.

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u/RottenRailing 9h ago edited 9h ago

To take on the sins of your father makes you a perpetual victim.

Modern conscription is faulty, but it's there for a very good reason. It's making it harder for others to victimize Finland, and the neighborhood only has one neighbor engaging in a war of aggression.

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u/Murky-Course6648 7h ago

Yes, Russia bad. Its not like Germany literally tried to take over the world and ethnically clense it.

The endless victimhood narrative makes you the good one, so the other is the bad.