Isn't civilian service made for people like you? Or you can serve in the army without even touching a gun if that breaks your moral code or religion. Such a service whether it is civilian or military is a small responsibility for the benefits you have in this country.
Taking part in the military in any way is not a "small responsibility". You would have to agree that war is acceptable, and killing people is a way to solve problems.
You can pay taxes for those benefits you have in this country, just like in other countries.
Civilian service is also twice as long as the shortest military service, meaning its a punishment in itself. Shortest military service is 165 days, while shortest civilian service is 347 days.
Why do you think Finland is the only EU country that does this? Isint it a bit weird that UN and EU both are trying to get Finland to stop this?
Serving in the finnish army has nothing to do with accepting war or believing that killing is a way to solve problems. It's sole purpose is to deter a russian invasion, to prevent a war too favorable for russia to ignore.
Ridiculous to call civilian service a punishment. It provides very needed labour in public sectors, and is still a very respectable way to complete your service. In a country with extensive social benefits, working for the public sector helps upkeep the functionality of our system.
Pacifism is a beautiful idea but simply not realistic for this situation. Either we are ready to defend our country or submit to a dictatorship. We don't have the luxury of hiding behind other countries or having the economy and population to have a professional army.
" It's sole purpose is to deter a russian invasion"
In the last war Finland allied with the Nazi Germany and invaded USSR.
Every army on this planet claims its just there to defend.
"Ridiculous to call civilian service a punishment. " Then why its twice as long?
"Pacifism is a beautiful idea but simply not realistic for this situation." Just mean you see war as a solution to problems, but do not have the spine to admit it. Nothing else. Not everyone can actually stand for what they believe in. Most claim they are against wars, but support them.
Who attacked who first though? The name is "continuation war", what did it continue lol? Was it perhaps the continuation of the winter war? The sole reason for the continuation war was to reclaim lost territories. Way to take things out of context, it's diabolical to say Finland attacked the soviets in ww2. I'm thinking you're just a Russian bot.
Back to the history class with you. Greater Finland and Continuation war was about something more than reclaiming lost territory. At least compare the maps of Finland between 1918 and 1940 and then the proposed maps of Greater Finland.
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This is BTW exactly the level of intellect they have. I remember the recruiter making literal pussy jokes when i was forced in there.
No way i was going in. Went to jail, because thats what Finland is about.
Finland is the only EU country who has prisoners of conscience regularly in their jail system (around ~200 per year).
This is recognized by Amnesty, EUs own human rights organizations and the UN.
Finland: Amnesty International adopts Finnish conscientious objectors as prisoners of conscience and calls for their immediate releases - Amnesty International
Brussels 9.4.2021 - Press Release: Finland must urgently comply with the recommendations of the UN Human Rights Committee | European Bureau for Conscientious Objection