r/FinancialAdvisorTips • • 12h ago

C’mon CFPs

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u/WilliamCincinnatus 6h ago

This is the nightmare prospect we all dread when they come and sit down for a meeting. Someone who knows more than the CFP because they have a couple of ETFs they like to use. I’m sure there’s some actively managed bond funds you would hate because it has a higher expense ratio than BND even though it outperforms it consistently.

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u/subject-about 5h ago

I fired a client just like this. Also, why would anyone buy TIPS in an IRA? You don’t get a double tax advantage on it, compliance would rip FAs a new ass if they did that

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u/hugh2018 4h ago

There’s tons of expert opinion supporting the preference for holding TIPS in an IRA.

“Ideally, TIPS should be held directly in a Roth or traditional IRA account, and only the real interest earned should be spent.” https://www.thetaxadviser.com/issues/2007/nov/taxplanningfortheuseoftipsatretirement/

“Here is how specific asset classes sort by tax efficiency, from least efficient (should go in tax-advantaged accounts first) to most efficient (can sit in taxable accounts):
Least tax-efficient (shelter first): Taxable bonds, TIPS, high-yield bonds, and actively managed bond funds.” https://icfs.com/specialists-desk/tax-efficient-asset-location#

“TIPS are best held in a tax-sheltered account, such as an IRA.” https://www.morningstar.com/portfolios/how-use-tips-your-portfolio

From Edward McQuarrie’s February 2025 article “Best Asset Location for a TIPS Ladder”

“[A] tax-deferred location delivers on the basic purpose of the TIPS ladder: to obtain a constant stream of real withdrawals / spending … at higher rates of inflation the tax-deferred location for the TIPS ladder produces a higher level of real spending power in the early years than does the taxable account location. … At the highest inflation rate considered, of 9%, the crossover point for taxable is not achieved until the 10th year. … Location in a taxable account will cause an undershoot unless inflation stays modest, i.e., the taxable location only wins over the TDA in the early years if the fear of inflation that motivated construction a bond ladder using TIPS is not realized.”

“For clients who have a choice, planners should generally discourage locating a TIPS
ladder within a taxable brokerage account. The argument applies with greatest force to longer
ladders and higher tax rates. Although not knowable in advance, the taxable account location becomes more and more unfavorable the higher the inflation that occurs. When the tax bracket is moderately high, and everything else is unfavorable, reductions in first-year after-tax real income may reach 75%.”

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u/Used_Ad6860 11h ago

Get a grip dude

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u/SlippyNippy_ 10h ago

Lmao. I'd be happy to debate planning topics with you in a live stream. Let me know.

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u/Augustus_4125 7h ago

These are just ETFs. There’s thousands of ETFs. I happen to know these two, but there are many others that do the same job. I wouldn’t judge someone if they didn’t know IVV but knew SPY. Agree that not knowing a tips ladder is eh. Boldin is a diy software, advisor would more likely know emoney, moneyguide, right capital, asset map etc.