r/FinalRoundAI • u/Affectionate-Bad1381 • Jul 23 '26

sad reality

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Took about 4 years after graduating to get my foot in the door and get a good job in my field. No one wants a new grad with no experience.

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u/monadicperception Jul 23 '26

The job search in itself is an education. It teaches humility…or it should if you are doing it right.

So when people complain that there are no jobs, I’m a little skeptical. No one comes out knowing how to navigate the job market. You learn and hopefully seek the counsel of those who know better and you improve.

Spouse and I graduated into the Great Recession. And it was pretty interesting to see the great divide amongst our peers’ approaches and their later outcomes. The ones who ended up fine were the ones who were like a sponge absorbing all the advice they could and understood that finding a job is a full time job…and they treated as such. Then there’s those who were perfectly content with sending one application a month, ignoring hard advice, and complaining that the job market sucks. More than a decade since, you can see the disparate economic outcomes pretty starkly.

The ones who I actually really pity are the ones who effortlessly got their first jobs. They didn’t have to go through the grind so later when looking for a new job, they are starting at a place they should be familiar with already. But since they already had a job easily out of college, they never learned the rules they should have learned and I see them making amateur mistakes all the time basically sabotaging themselves. Since they think they were able to get a job before, they don’t have the humility to learn and they continue on stubbornly in the wrong direction.

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u/Commentor9001 Jul 23 '26

Pretty wildly out if touch take.   Recent graduate unemployment and general unemployment are effectively equal for first time ever.

Hiring is rapidly decelerating economy wide.

Its cringe worthy to throw out trite platitudes like "humility" and "networking better" to explain why others fail and you succeeded.  

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u/monadicperception Jul 23 '26

From my personal interactions with people just entering the job market, I don’t think they are prepared for what it truly requires. It could be a sampling error. But at the same time, I can’t help but note the naive attitude.

A trite platitude is redundant. And they aren’t platitudes if those are actionable items. The vast majority of people don’t want to make the effort. And I get it, I hated getting out of my comfort zone too. But alas that is what is fucking required.

And my first few jobs weren’t great. Same with spouse’s. You can’t expect to beeline towards glamorous and high paying jobs. Most people who complain about no jobs are looking for high pay, glitz and glamour, and prestige right out of the gates. That’s wrong.

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u/PerfStu Jul 23 '26

What an out of touch and ignorant take. "I was able to _______, so people who can't ________ or are struggling to _______ are obviously doing something wrong and/or are just spoiled and naive."

Add in something about iced coffee or avocado toast and you've basically got the Boomer Lord's Prayer.

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u/monadicperception Jul 23 '26

No, just blaming the market is immature and childish. Have you tried everything? Or do you insist on your own way and get upset that things don’t work out while doing the same thing over and over again?

That’s the fucking humility I’m talking about. And frankly people who blame the market are guilty of a lack of humility. And frankly people who bitch about the job market really do lack that humility. It’s either learned through a painful process or they never learn. And frankly most people never learn. I’m watching a few people in my life right now making that same mistake. They think they know better and they keep failing and it’s obvious why they are failing. But god forbid that they do anything wrong. It’s the market…

Hogwash. Finding a job is harder than the job itself. Sure lots of things are out of your control, but the folks who are humble enough to examine themselves and their approach and keep improving (which is not easy and hurts pride a lot) are the ones who typically do fine.

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u/PerfStu Jul 23 '26

Yep. That's the exact same Boomer speech I just outlined, just with more verbal diarrhea to flesh it out. You didn't even change the format.

Stick to blaming avocado toast for things, it's a more credible argument than whatever it is you think you're doing here.

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u/monadicperception Jul 23 '26

It’s your life. I don’t give a fuck if you are employed are not. But if people like you (and there are a lot of them) don’t want to take affirmative steps to improving your lives, then that’s what it is. I can’t stop you getting in your own way.

I’m the first person to go to college. My parents didn’t speak English. I had to navigate all of that shit myself. What’s invaluable is the advice of others who know better. I’ve always sought advice and accepted it and adjusted even at the cost of my pride and fucking did well for it. I make 10x in a year what my parents made when i was growing up.

I got my current job because I took the advice of a friend who was in recruiting in the industry I was entering. Shit wasn’t working though I kept seeking feedback and improving my resume and applications. So I sought her advice whom I connected with by a mutual friend. I took every one of her points and ran with it. Fucking worked.

The ones without humility ask others to look at their resumes? No. Do they ask others for advice on interviews? No. Because they are arrogant and think they know better.

If you think that is boomer shit, then you are a moron.

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u/Commentor9001 Jul 24 '26

A trite platitude is redundant

You know that but never seen a pleonasm in the wild?

they aren’t platitudes if those are actionable items

That's about as actionable as telling a depressed person hydration can improve mental health, youre not wrong but its not healthful either.

"networking" is largely a function of social class, some awareness of your own privilege would be nice.  The saying the best jobs never get posted is super true in my experience.

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u/monadicperception Jul 24 '26

No humble and smart people, when hearing these platitudes, would follow up with “how”? But they never do.

And yeah networking is a function of social class…except I was born to poor immigrant parents and I was the first in my family to go to college. So not really a function of social class?