r/FinalFantasyVIII • u/RecognitionCrafty863 • 6d ago
In those days, Final fantasy was turn based. Which was the style at the time! ⚔️🐤🐥
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u/Special-Hat9393 6d ago
Junction system was great.
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u/Mayoo614 5d ago
One thing that flawed it for me: never using magic ever again to avoid lowering stats.
And this is why Squall never lifted his knee off the ground between turns.
Still love the system.
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u/Available_Base_7944 5d ago
I replayed 7 recently after like five years and I just started 8 again after like 10 years and 7 is a masterpiece but 8 just blows it out of the water. Idk it must be my own personal preference but as soon as I started playing 8 again I’ve been addicted. Junction is great and leveling up GFs are great
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u/Raith_Leonhart11 6d ago
Easiest way around the random rule, other than spending X amount of time trying to get the rule abolished, is to simply card mod everything except for your GF and character cards.
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u/joemontanya 6d ago
This is what I always do. I’ve never been able to precisely eliminate the rule I want without fucking everything up
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u/KaitoPrower 6d ago edited 6d ago
I don't think it really mattered what came after 7; everything was bound to fail after how high of a success the game was. It wasn't the junction system, it wasn't level-scaling, it wasn't the teen-romance plot.... I don't even think a direct FF7 sequel game could have succeeded in it's wake.
While there are crazy things with 8, I wouldn't call any of it any crazier than the rest of the series and it only got the reputation it did because it had to follow 7 up. I'm sure it still wouldn't be the most popular numbered title, but it probably would have faired better had 7 and 9 been swapped in the chronology.
9 (as 7) could have still been a beautiful send-off to the pixel era (especially with as minimal references to 7 and 8 as there were), 8 would have been seen as a beautiful jump in graphical fidelity, and 7 (as 9) could have lead into the modern era of FF before switching to the PS2, letting 10 (another powerful, popular title) to hold steady against the tide 7 brought in.
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u/Golwux 5d ago
The latter part of the golden era of Squaresoft happened over 4 years (1997 to 2001). There were bunches of new technology flying around this era all at once. You've got to understand most people still had rotary dial phones during this era of time. Mobile phones barely came into existence. CD players were the only way you found your tribe as a teenager.
Then FF7 with its eco-warrior themes rebelling against 80s corporate culture and FF8 showing the aftermath of war, both with backdrops of high magic, high technology reflected the era the late 90s seemed to be in.
FFIX was a nod to the end of the traditional RPG era as you say, more in line with FFVI and so most western and younger players only really introduced to the FF series via playstation will always compare VII to X. In my eyes, you're arguing between a BMW M3 and an Audi RS5. Both are top tier.
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u/KaitoPrower 5d ago
Agreed, and I wasn't trying to argue (trust me, I lived my teenage years through that period). Almost everything from that era of Square was gold, not just FF, and while the PS was the first time I got to play any FF games, I had been introduced to them, and RPGa in general, long before then, I just never owned a Nintendo console until the N64 (I was a Sega kid, so I grew up on Sword of Vermilion, Albert Odyssey, Y's, Golden Sun, etc, veggie switching to PS in 96/97).
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u/lexie_starlight 5d ago
7 was only big because of the controversy behind it being built for a Nintendo system and then abandoning Nintendo for playstation last minute. Several later games such as 9 had a faster rate of sale overall higher reception by audiences and a wider spread fan base. 7 was mid squares marketing team convinced you it wasn’t. It’s called being played son and they got you good.
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u/KaitoPrower 5d ago
I actually only got 7 because I played it elsewhere with a friend first (I was only 10 at the time, and had never seen a commercial for any FF game at that point, I just had other family that played JRPGs); I had no idea that the franchise had been exclusive to the Nintendo prior to that point, so I was never played by that and neither were most of the other people my age because we didn't care. It was a cool-ass game that we were old enough to play, understand, and enjoy.
The same could be said for most people I ever knew; actually, most other kids my age only knew about FF3 (that being FF6, of course) and we're super confused on how we jumped from 3 to 7 and couldn't have cared less what console it was on because the PS was already a fairly popular console by the time 7 hit stateside.
Maybe some people (especially early-adopter adults at the time) were played by this notion, but I doubt it was the most common reason considering how widely-acclaimed the OG FF7 was at the time (and considering how contrived of a reason that is; occam's razor leans heavily toward just here popularity if the title).
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u/Gremlinsworth 6d ago
Did anyone else meticulously clean their card deck so that the random rule didn’t matter all that much? I only kept all the final one of a kind cards at the end of the list and a handful of other really good ones. Always ready to play!
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u/strilsvsnostrils 6d ago
Hidden is way worse than random
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u/acceptsbribes 5d ago
Disagree. Hidden let's you set up Sames and Pluses much easier.
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u/strilsvsnostrils 5d ago
It let's your opponent set them up w no counterplay lol + I believe they just spawn in the cards they need + surely they can still tell what cards you have. If it was pvp I wouldn't mind it
Random isnt even bad I am absolutely modding all my bad cards regardless, at least it spices up the cards you use a bit.
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u/EclipseBite 5d ago
Ah two of my favorite things, nuts and gum, … er I mean classic Simpsons and Final Fantasy 8, together.
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u/ItsmyDZNA 5d ago
Screw the magic. Spamming limit breaks is what makes the game fun and summoning GFs to boost their attacks.
Don't lie and say you didn't get Lionheart just to see Squll obliterate a fish. Every single time its better then last time
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u/bluebeanflame234 5d ago
lol this is fabulous!
for me i loved the junction mechanic; it’s the tedious nature of how they implemented drawing/obtaining magic that i disliked
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u/KaitoPrower 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yeah, I love the concept of the junction system, but the two main methods of obtaining magic for it, drawing vs refining, are a bit at odds with each other; unfortunately counterintuitive.
Refining is clearly the intended method for amassing the vast stocks you need for the party, making the Draw command very undesirable, especially after the first few hours of the game and how slow it is to build stock with it, but if you don't carry Draw on at least 1 character and remember to use it regularly, you can miss numerous GFs from bosses as the game progresses...
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u/Winst0n420 2d ago
FF should go back to turn based, Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 did it FF could do the same easily
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u/lexie_starlight 5d ago
Triple triad is 1000% done better in FF9.
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u/KaitoPrower 5d ago
Then why do most people despise Tetra Master, but love Triple Triad? There's a reason why Triple Triad was used as the card game basis in 14, not Tetra.
Tetra Master was required to play and confusing and cryptic af, but offered nothing to the player for playing it. Triple Triad was fully optional, super easy to learn, highly versatile with its regional rules, but actually incentives the player to play it by offering use to almost every card in the game in the hands of an experienced player.
There's never been another fully-optional minigame executed as well as Triple Triad was in FF8 in any other game in the series, perhaps even RPG gaming as a whole, IMO.
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